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[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

Yes, I forgot to list "lower arm actuators with PPCs and ACs".

My bad. Any other trolling you need to get off your chest? Feel like you won the internet?

bah, I didnt win anything. mwo forums is like playing the lottery. you just never win. I enjoy our talks sometimes though, at least its entertaining in a mechwarrior geek sort of way, even if we dont always agree : )

[mogs01gt]

Alwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 12:02 PM, said:

It has lower arm actuators actually. Did you somehow miss that? Or do you just ignore that fact because " the meta " build is erppc gauss and thats all you use? lol.

Only with lasers...

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

mogs01gt, on 21 October 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

Only with lasers...

Actually you can use them with missiles too captain obvious!

[Bishop Steiner]

Alwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:

Actually you can use them with missiles too captain obvious!

and don't forget MGs!!!! Well, for Summoner arm, that would be 1 MG.....

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

and don't forget MGs!!!! Well, for Summoner arm, that would be 1 MG.....

lol. My best build for the Summoner besides missiles is 2erll 2ermed uac5. It works and puts out good damage. Give it a shot, you may be surprised.

[pbiggz]

Alwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 01:09 PM, said:

lol. My best build for the Summoner besides missiles is 2erll 2ermed uac5. It works and puts out good damage. Give it a shot, you may be surprised.

Did you show up here just to talk people down?

[Bishop Steiner]

Alwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 01:09 PM, said:

lol. My best build for the Summoner besides missiles is 2erll 2ermed uac5. It works and puts out good damage. Give it a shot, you may be surprised.

personally, on mobile mechs, won't ttouch C-ERLL with a 10 ft pole. I like my twist too much.

I'll stick to having fun with my substandard erppcs and autocannons.

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

pbiggz, on 21 October 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

Did you show up here just to talk people down?

Sharing Summoner builds actually. Why are you here?

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2015 - 01:12 PM, said:

personally, on mobile mechs, won't ttouch C-ERLL with a 10 ft pole. I like my twist too much.

I'll stick to having fun with my substandard erppcs and autocannons.

Nothing wrong with peeps and dakka.

[Wintersdark]

Alwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 12:02 PM, said:

It has lower arm actuators actually. Did you somehow miss that? Or do you just ignore that fact because " the meta " build is erppc gauss and thats all you use? lol.

meta is erppc gauss? I haven't seen erppc's used in any serious competitive way in ages. They're kind of terrible; ridiculously hot and slow, and the summoner mounting only one erppc and a gauss rifle is kind of embarrassingly bad.

Lots of things you could call the build, but meta it ain't.

[Bishop Steiner]

Wintersdark, on 21 October 2015 - 01:57 PM, said:

meta is erppc gauss? I haven't seen erppc's used in any serious competitive way in ages. They're kind of terrible; ridiculously hot and slow, and the summoner mounting only one erppc and a gauss rifle is kind of embarrassingly bad.

Lots of things you could call the build, but meta it ain't.

it's still considered the only viable summoner build in higher play... and that's just for those iconoclasts who have to play different. But yeah, there are a handful of comp level poptarts in them, unless they gave up the last couple months

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 October 2015 - 02:08 PM, said:

it's still considered the only viable summoner build in higher play... and that's just for those iconoclasts who have to play different. But yeah, there are a handful of comp level poptarts in them, unless they gave up the last couple months

that's kind of like talking about "meta" Vindicator builds, though =/

Whatever. Poor summoner, 70 tons and an erppc + gauss rifle is considered a strong build? Poor, poor summoner.

I sure wish it sucked less.

[pbiggz]

Alwrath, on 21 October 2015 - 01:45 PM, said:

Sharing Summoner builds actually. Why are you here?

Are you sure? It seems like your hear to tell everyone they suck because they dont have a good time with the summoner.

Im here to discuss why the mech is not properly balanced and how PGI could potentially balance the mech while retaining its distinctness and we were having a pretty good discussion until you came to tell everyone there was no discussion to have. Just to be clear, there is and you are wrong. Argue all you want, it wont change the summoner is barely armed enough to contend with a 50 tonner, and because paul nerfed jumpjets into the ground it has no real plus sides to compensate.

Also the summoner was always my favourite mech, ever since mechwarrior 2, but I never play it in MWO. I want the summoner to be good, and pretending its ok when it isn't wont make it good, it'll just convince the less attentive members of this community that it doesn't need to change.

[Lightfoot]

Yep. Either buff it's jump-jets to be like a medium mech's or let us remove them or give it some armor buffs to be tougher. And I have to say the Summoner has the lowest slung arms of any mech, as far as i can tell. You have to fully expose the mech to clear even minor obstacles. I think mechs can actually elevate their arms and the fixed shoulder thing is an artifact of the animation shortcomings of earlier MechWarrior games.

[Lightfoot]

And nothing gets fixed...

[InspectorG]

Well...
With the incoming Skill-tree-nerfs, Summoner might be a better striker if there is enough difference between it and mechs that have no agility quirks.
Currently saving for a Summoner-C...a guy can dream i guess.

Have been having fun in a 6ASRM6 splat, SRM buffs should be lols.

Still, no Poor-Endo, no removable JJ, no pods with more E or M.
Hell, even Gargles gets an arm pod with 9000 E hardpoints.
Give Summoner an arm pods with 8B, ill MG it all up.

[Not Bob]

Just curios - What is everyone running on their summoners? I've finally decided to finish eliteing/mastering them and quite simply, they are rather painful to play. I've been using the following builds:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...137fa62d2144149 Summer Prime(I)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aa6f1ad3b5e5131 Summoner B
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a9fd05b0f993ff2 Summoner D


Any cirtiques you guys have on them? Maybe better builds you guys use that helped you level it up. I generally play in every range and am proficient with most the weapons (Note: I don't like playing with LRMS... so please don't suggest those kindly )

[Bishop Steiner]

Not Bob, on 18 November 2015 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just curios - What is everyone running on their summoners? I've finally decided to finish eliteing/mastering them and quite simply, they are rather painful to play. I've been using the following builds:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...137fa62d2144149 Summer Prime(I)
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aa6f1ad3b5e5131 Summoner B
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a9fd05b0f993ff2 Summoner D


Any cirtiques you guys have on them? Maybe better builds you guys use that helped you level it up. I generally play in every range and am proficient with most the weapons (Note: I don't like playing with LRMS... so please don't suggest those kindly )

I'm the last guy to ask... I like to run my Summoner stock.

[Not Bob]

Ahh That probably won't help me, lol

[InspectorG]

Not Bob, on 18 November 2015 - 09:45 PM, said:

Just curios -

Meh, the usual:
Gauss+4erml
UAC10+4erml
UAC20+4ERSL

2LPL,2erml
2LPL, +various SRM

troll:
Hunt shadcats with 2UAC2+ERPPC

[Deathlike]

Well... I think the Summoner agility-wise will survive the efficiencies change/nerf.

It'll easily become the most agile Clan Heavy... but I'm not sure if that'll make a difference in its overall status.

Edited by Deathlike, 19 November 2015 - 12:04 AM.