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[CDLord HHGD]

Fix it, until it's playable by anything other than meta, my wallet is closed.

[Tennex]

everything is always going to be meta.. You wont find a competitive game where meta wont be the best option.

They can nerf the ERPPC thundrebolt slightly though.

As for the clans, those would require a overall nerf to clan mechs.

Edited by Tennex, 28 December 2014 - 04:11 PM.

[ApolloKaras]

You say its not fun, then you do not submit any ideas yourself...

[_Comrade_]

From what i heard they are making new maps for CW and with that some possible new objectives other then defend or attack base. If this is true, then it should break up some of the meta, hopefully. Just give it time, remember it's still in beta

Edited by Grimwill, 28 December 2014 - 04:26 PM.

[Mystere]

Tennex, on 28 December 2014 - 04:10 PM, said:

They can nerf the ERPPC thundrebolt slightly though.

As for the clans, those would require a overall nerf to clan mechs.

Yes, slightly nerf the TBolt. And in return, nerf all Clans mechs. That's a good and fair exchange.

[xCico]

cdlord, on 28 December 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

Fix it, until it's playable by anything other than meta, my wallet is closed.

What is exactly meta nowdays?

[C E Dwyer]

It is playable by any mechs of any build,

However the only tactic for wining makes it very dull, and pointless to take part in for anyone, but the most egocentric must win to get unit name on a planet, who need this more than an interesting enviroment to do it in.

My desire to play in CW is very minimal and will remain so until maps and goals that require brains and tactics that require a thought process of something more than Zerg generators.

so yes my wallet is closed but only because there is nothing I want or need in the game anymore, other than a wolverine hero

[IsaAurinkoinen]

xCico, on 28 December 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

What is exactly meta nowdays?

Dragons and Tbolts with known builds are IS meta now and holy trinity at Clans.

Those IS mechs were so bad before quirks, I´m super happy that they made them worth of playing. Mybe next not so good clan mechs please. I´m waiting that someday Summoners and Adders are top dogs with kick ass quirks.

I think OP is wrong, CW is really great. Join on good group and have fun. Never seen this big variety of mechs at play than in CW at the moment.

And zerg rushing isn´t autowin anymore. Players have adapted quite nicely. Bring next time for example some streak kintaros with big engine and see something funny happening to zerging lights.

Edited by IsaAurinkoinen, 28 December 2014 - 04:38 PM.

[Davers]

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Saxie, on 28 December 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

You say its not fun, then you do not submit any ideas yourself...

The OP can't offer suggestions simply because there will always be a 'meta'. It is just a fact of games. It's simply a question of whether or not you like what the meta is. There will never be a case where 'all weapons are equal'. Even TT didn't have that. There were definitely Good Mechs and Bad Mechs, Good Weapons and Bad Weapons.

[xCico]

IsaAurinkoinen, on 28 December 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Dragons and Tbolts with known builds are IS meta now and holy trinity at Clans.

Those IS mechs were so bad before quirks, I´m super happy that they made them worth of playing. Mybe next not so good clan mechs please. I´m waiting that someday Summoners and Adders are top dogs with kick ass quirks.

I think OP is wrong, CW is really great. Join on good group and have fun. Never seen this big variety of mechs at play than in CW at the moment.

And zerg rushing isn´t autowin anymore. Players have adapted quite nicely. Bring next time for example some streak kintaros with big engine and see something funny happening to zerging lights.

So while dragon and thunderbolt were complete garbage no one complained and now tgey are finally decent OP complains, cmon ffs, how about we all fight with flamers and streaks...

[Bigbacon]

i think I would enjoy it more if the maps were better, where the attackers could maneuver more, have harassers and what not that aren't almost always right in front and in view of the defenders.

both maps pretty much have very little in terms of any kind of movement, you always visible.

Normal maps allow for teams to move around and do things. CW you either rush one way, send a few the other and repeat and hope for the best.

the META bothers me, i know it won't go away, I refuse to run it because I like oddball things. Just no mech variety in CW.

Edited by Bigbacon, 28 December 2014 - 05:01 PM.

[Splitpin]

Well I'm having fun, it's a glass half full thing I guess. As for meta, well that's always - 'in whose opinion ?' and in CW agreement on meta is much more debatable than regular matches.

[Zensei]

Cathy, on 28 December 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

It is playable by any mechs of any build,

However the only tactic for wining makes it very dull, and pointless to take part in for anyone, but the most egocentric must win to get unit name on a planet, who need this more than an interesting enviroment to do it in.

My desire to play in CW is very minimal and will remain so until maps and goals that require brains and tactics that require a thought process of something more than Zerg generators.

so yes my wallet is closed but only because there is nothing I want or need in the game anymore, other than a wolverine hero

So sad

[Nothing Whatsoever]

This site has the meta.

[Snuglninja]

First of it is beta yeah I know we have heard this for years now, but it is not fun because it is the same map over and over. No real reason for cw, no strategy to taking planets, nothing.
Seem like there is a fix they could do now. Lower the amount of planets being attacked or defended. Use the invasion map for for initial attacks and or counter attacks. Then use other maps and modes and different drop tonnage to represent fighting across the planet.
But at least "cw" is here I never really thought we would see that.

[xWiredx]

CW is definitely fun and I have a feeling OP doesn't like it because he is dying/losing a lot. Most grief threads like this are usually results of things like that. Nothing to see here.

[xMEPHISTOx]

meh, its fun enough I suppose and gives me a sense of goals where there were none prior.

[C E Dwyer]

Zensei, on 28 December 2014 - 05:15 PM, said:

So sad

reasons ?

[CDLord HHGD]

Saxie, on 28 December 2014 - 04:21 PM, said:

You say its not fun, then you do not submit any ideas yourself...

One one hand, I know I don't have all the answers. I only know what is.

On the other hand, I have submitted ideas for some time now.

The game that initiated this particular rant was an attack against Boreal Vault, we barely even breached the gates because the entire enemy team was on the ridge with PPCs and Gauss. My HBK was cored out the second I looked at the door generator.

[Krivvan]

cdlord, on 28 December 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

The game that initiated this particular rant was an attack against Boreal Vault, we barely even breached the gates because the entire enemy team was on the ridge with PPCs and Gauss. My HBK was cored out the second I looked at the door generator.

This usually happens because the attacking team always insists on trying to trade back against the defenders instead of torso twisting and just going for the generator and tanking the hits.