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[TheSilken]

Yea it's been a great TV. But now we have the 58" soo......

[TheSilken]

chiron, on 31 December 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

I'd be happy to build you a rig, but one or two quick questions:

1) Overclocking: "hell no" , " I dont know how, but i'm ok doing some simple OC'ing" , " or hell yeah, lets water-cool this ****!"

I forgot to answer this. I've never OC'd anything before but I'm interested in it, especially that last one

[xxREVxx]

Sup, Pimp!

Here's a decent "middle of the road" build list.

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Extra Fans: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition CO-9050005-WW 120mm Case Fan $27^{.99 each}
Power Supply: CORSAIR Professional Series HX650 (CMPSU-650HX) 650W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular ...out of stock
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...out of stock
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard out of stock
GPU: EVGA 03G-P4-2884-KR G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support w/EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card (I play on 42 inch LED.) out of stock
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M4X1600C9 $102^.99
CPU Cooler: CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler out of stock
Optical Drive: SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM out of stock
Hard Drive: SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE500BW 2.5" 500GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$249^.99
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Alot of what I have is out of stock already (lol, stuff is on the verge of being obsolete)
I'll hop back on in a bit and see what is comparable...

ok, I'm back...
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.co...9-086-_-Product $51^.99 refurb

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N=-1&isNodeId=1 $199^.99 refurb

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...8-716-_-Product $124^.99

GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814487088 $349^.99

CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.co...-CORSAIR-H80i_4 $89^.99

Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151266 $19^.99

Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.co...7-249-_-Product $249^.99

Case: http://www.newegg.co...9-041-_-Product

Extra Fans: http://www.newegg.co...N=-1&isNodeId=1 $20^{.99
(bare min 2 fans)}

$1188^.99
Unfortunately this build list runs over your budget a bit, hope this helps though.

o7

Edited by Reverend Poison, 01 January 2015 - 04:58 PM.

[TheSilken]

Hey Reverend there a price estimate on that rig?

[Roaxis Stalomainis]

Bows3r, on 31 December 2014 - 09:25 PM, said:

That said I would highly recommend the NVidia GTX 970, IF your willing to sink that much money from your budget just for your GPU. Depending on which one you get, it could run you anywhere from 300$ to 370$. It will run anything you want to run

Personally, I disagree with that statement, he would be better off avoiding the 900 Series until PGI gets their game engine updated for it. I have serious issues with the game randomly crashing and never had any kinds of problems like this until I switched over from a GT 640 to the GTX 980 on a fresh install. Not only that, but the game works the card so hard it hits a temp of 60C easily (monitored via Firestorm). I would possibly look into the other two mentioned by Bows3r for the sake of compatibility.

[Chiron]

TheSilkenPimp, on 01 January 2015 - 09:18 AM, said:

I forgot to answer this. I've never OC'd anything before but I'm interested in it, especially that last one

Awesome! The Gigabyte mobo I picked out costs a little more money, but you get two important things.
1) better electronics and voltage regulators, crucial in a safe & stable OC.
2) the board has special software in the BIOS made just for you. It will automatically OC for you with just 1 click. When you get more confident in your OCing, you can do it manually, too.

As to having fun with this, if you can reach into your pocket, find an extra $75, go get a corsair h100i, all I one water cooler. Pretty easy to install, better cooling for the cpu, and unlike air coolers, it dumps the heat OUT of the case. Now your GPU can oc better too!

Overclocking is awesome. With a couple extra dollars for cooling, & a couple hours of learning what to do and tweaking your setup, you will get the performance of a system, several hundred dollars more expensive.

[Chiron]

Oh, and someone made a good point about SSDs. Toss a 2nd hard drive in there for storage, and leave your SSD for just windows and applications. Best of both worlds.

[TheSilken]

Awesome. I feel like a mad scientist now

Or an evil mastermind

Edited by TheSilkenPimp, 01 January 2015 - 12:40 PM.

[TheSilken]

Can someone take this OC stuff into account and add it into a build?

[Sgt Minuteman]

Roaxis Stalomainis, on 01 January 2015 - 11:12 AM, said:

Personally, I disagree with that statement, he would be better off avoiding the 900 Series until PGI gets their game engine updated for it. I have serious issues with the game randomly crashing and never had any kinds of problems like this until I switched over from a GT 640 to the GTX 980 on a fresh install. Not only that, but the game works the card so hard it hits a temp of 60C easily (monitored via Firestorm). I would possibly look into the other two mentioned by Bows3r for the sake of compatibility.

You will be well served by a GTX 760 for $239.(If you can find them..) Best card since the GTX 470...
http://www.hwcompare...eforce-gtx-760/

Oh and I play perfectly fine on an AMD Phenom II x6 1045T (stock at 2.7ghz) with 16GB Kingston Hyper Ram and a GTX 470 and now I have a GTX 760. I can also play fine with a 14" gaming laptop from ASUS with an Intel i5 with GTX 660m http://rog.asus.com/tag/14-inch/ .

I would also consider an socket AM3+ Mother and AMD 4.0Ghz quad core or 6 core CPU in your price quotes. You can get higher clocks for less $$$. I have never had problems with my AMD rigs running MWO.

Compare: http://cpuboss.com/c...-vs-AMD-FX-9590

Edited by Sgt Minuteman, 01 January 2015 - 01:11 PM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Sgt Minuteman, on 01 January 2015 - 12:59 PM, said:

You will be well served by a GTX 760 for $239.(If you can find them..) Best card since the GTX 470...
http://www.hwcompare...eforce-gtx-760/

Oh and I play perfectly fine on an AMD Phenom II x6 1045T (stock at 2.7ghz) with 16GB Kingston Hyper Ram and a GTX 470 and now I have a GTX 760. I can also play fine with a 14" gaming laptop from ASUS with an Intel i5 with GTX 660m http://rog.asus.com/tag/14-inch/ .

I would also consider an socket AM3+ Mother and AMD 4.0Ghz quad core or 6 core CPU in your price quotes. You can get higher clocks for less $$$. I have never had problems with my AMD rigs running MWO.

Compare: http://cpuboss.com/c...-vs-AMD-FX-9590

Ignore this post about AMD, it has been demonstrated in this forum a million times over AMD CPU's do not play this game as well as Intel due to architecture differences so the bang for buck ratio for AMD does not hold true here at this time.

[TheSilken]

I'm going with Intel (I think I said that earlier) so please stick with that guys

[Sgt Minuteman]

Personally I would Build this:

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819113284

Mobo: http://www.newegg.co...=9SIA2W01AZ5550

SSD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147248

GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125494

RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231460

PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817438030

Price $872.94

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Sgt Minuteman, on 01 January 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

Personally I would Build this:

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819113284

Mobo: http://www.newegg.co...=9SIA2W01AZ5550

SSD: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147248

GPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125494

RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820231460

PSU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817438030

Price $872.94

*sigh*

[Goose]

All NewEgg, even …

[TheSilken]

DV McKenna, on 01 January 2015 - 07:56 AM, said:

Both are good builds, im not a major fan of the low end corsair PSU models at this price point i tend to lean to the EVGA ones (personal preference) is 240GB going to be enough storage for you? typically people advise to do OS and game installs onto SSD not usually day to day junk.

Again tweaked the build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($212.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280X 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Raidmax Vortex ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $854.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-01 10:53 EST-0500


All i've done is swap the more expensive motherboard for a cheaper Asrock model, and bumped the standard R9 280 up to a 280x model works out $10 more so i couldn't squeeze out that corsair PSU.

Ok I'm thinking that I might use this build. Add in the extra SSD Hardrive and the stuff Chiron mentioned about the OC and cooling and give me a run down of it please.

[Chiron]

TheSilkenPimp, on 01 January 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Ok I'm thinking that I might use this build. Add in the extra SSD Hardrive and the stuff Chiron mentioned about the OC and cooling and give me a run down of it please.

Sorry, im out and on my smart phone:
this build is almost ready for overclocking. The video card is perfect.

You MUST:
* get a stronger power supply, 650+
* Make sure your motherboard can handle the juice. I dont have time to check the ASRock, but you need a mobo thats voltage is made for OC. If in doubt, buy the gigabyte mobo I listed on goldilocks.


* If you want air cooling, then this cooler and case are fine.
* If you want to water cool, heh, then you want a case with 2x120 mm vents on TOP for the radiator...try coolermaster HAF 912, or rosewill blackhawk, off the top of my head....oh, and a corsair h100i cooler.


Have fun, msg me if u have other questions, ill check back tonight.

[TheSilken]

Ok add in those changes someone please

[Flapdrol]

chiron, on 01 January 2015 - 02:37 PM, said:

You MUST:
* get a stronger power supply, 650+

The 550 PSU is fine, if you look up r9 280x reviews you'll see a total system power consumption of 300W ingame, and that's from the wall, so the psu is actually having to deliver even less.

[Chiron]

Flapdrol, on 01 January 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

The 550 PSU is fine, if you look up r9 280x reviews you'll see a total system power consumption of 300W inI'llgame, and that's from the wall, so the psu is actually having to deliver even less.

The specific rig I built him was 432w, and thats without any overclocking. Add in OC and a water cooler, your right at 550w. I dont like recommending any more than someone needs, but that's just too close for a ballpark estimate. 650w leaves good headroom, his PSU should never be taxed. Remember that PSU's produce a lot of heat when near or at full load. Then heat makes them less efficient and the whole rig less stable too.

650w is enough.