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[Icenhorn]

So... I just unlocked the Master slot to my mech... do i need to keep the OTHER 2 mechs that i had to buy to get the one I want to Master? or.... do i have to keep the other 2? or can I sell them?

I've read a few things about it and I'm sure i can, but i am just skeptical enough... that i feel i need to ask...

Edited by Icenhorn, 02 January 2015 - 12:59 AM.

[BUDFORCE]

You can sell them if you want to.

Infact, you only have to own three of each chassis and unlock the 8 basic skills on each, as soon as you have done that you have now unlocked those variants and can sell the other two.

I normally take all 3 up to master though (so unlock all the basics on all 3, plus all 4 elite skills on all 3) before I sell them. That way if I ever wanted to buy the mech again at some point inthe future, I know all the skills are there ready to go. I also find that it helps me grind up a bit more BBills before moving on - but thats just personal choice you dont have to.

There is a whole other argument about whether you should sell the mechs at all incase you need them in the future, but that is another topic.

[Icenhorn]

Thank you very much for answering me =D I will now sell the other 2 mechs ive learned to hate so very much -.- xD lol i love my Pirates Bane, and i find that the other locusts, though good in their own aspect, are NOT what i want out of a mech, or even my style of play =D thank you again =D

[SnagaDance]

BUDFORCE, on 02 January 2015 - 03:35 AM, said:

Infact, you only have to own three of each chassis and unlock the 8 basic skills on each, as soon as you have done that you have now unlocked those variants and can sell the other two.

Warning!! This part is not complete!

You can only advance a mech through both Elite and Master without doing so for the other 2 if you have already Mastered 3 mech variants of a chassis within the same weight class !! You will then be considered a 'Master' in that weight class and can subsequently avoid some of the grind (within that weight class) if you are so inclined. This is something veteran players who have been playing for a long time often forget. Especially if it's a player who tends to master them all, even the ones he doesn't plan on keeping (which is actually something I also do and with the new quirks I've been quite vindicated on this personally).

And just to clarify on the weight classes, these are Lights (20-35 tons), Mediums (40-55 tons), Heavies (60-75 tons) and Assaults (80-100 tons).

[Rogue Jedi]

just for additional clarification,

to unlock the elite efficiencies you need to complete the basic efficiencies on 3 variants of that chassis, e.g. 3 locusts (most players I know refer to this as the Mech being basiced).

to unlock the master module slot you must complete the elite efficiencies on 3 Mechs in the weight class e.g. 3 locusts or a Locust, a Spider and a Jenner, (most players I know refer to this as having the Mech elited).

when you have got the Master module slot unlocked then the Mech is as mastered.

mastering the Mech is largely pointless until you have some modules to put on your Mechs

Edited by Rogue Jedi, 02 January 2015 - 09:25 AM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

Rules for mastery:

To unlock Elites
Full basics on 3 variants of that Chassis

To unlock Master
Full Elites on 3 variants of that Weight Class

Edit:
More info HERE!
(and any other questions can help me improve it)

Edited by Shar Wolf, 02 January 2015 - 10:44 AM.

[DEMAX51]

Rogue Jedi, on 02 January 2015 - 09:23 AM, said:

just for additional clarification,

to unlock the elite efficiencies you need to complete the basic efficiencies on 3 variants of that chassis, e.g. 3 locusts (most players I know refer to this as the Mech being basiced).

to unlock the master module slot you must complete the elite efficiencies on 3 Mechs in the weight class e.g. 3 locusts or a Locust, a Spider and a Jenner, (most players I know refer to this as having the Mech elited).

when you have got the Master module slot unlocked then the Mech is as mastered.

mastering the Mech is largely pointless until you have some modules to put on your Mechs

Quoted for truth! I hear too many people say that they've got a 'Mech "Mastered" when in reality it's Elited and they're still working to Master it.

[Gaius Cavadus]

Okay, I need a little further clarification.

I currently have three Atlases. All of them are basiced. One is elited. None are mastered.

Once all three are elited then the master slot will open up. Got it.

Now, this "once per weight class" business is confusing me a little.

If I go out and buy a Stalker do I still need to basic three variants to unlock elite skills? Or can I just buy a Stalker and grind it all of the way up to master on a per variant basis?

Or does this "weight class expert" business only count for the master slot and not for elite skills?

Edited by Cavadus, 03 January 2015 - 11:21 AM.

[SnagaDance]

The "weight class expert" only counts for the Master slot and not the access to the Elite skills, for which you indeed need to finish the Basics on 3 variants of the same Chassis.

But for 2 of those you could leave them at finished Basics, while you go for the 'end run' with only the one.

Of course, only if you're already a weight class expert by fully Mastering 3 variants of the same chassis before.

[TercieI]

Cavadus, on 03 January 2015 - 11:20 AM, said:

Okay, I need a little further clarification.

I currently have three Atlases. All of them are basiced. One is elited. None are mastered.

Once all three are elited then the master slot will open up. Got it.

Now, this "once per weight class" business is confusing me a little.

If I go out and buy a Stalker do I still need to basic three variants to unlock elite skills? Or can I just buy a Stalker and grind it all of the way up to master on a per variant basis?

Or does this "weight class expert" business only count for the master slot and not for elite skills?

You always have to get three variants of a chassis through basic to unlock elite. However, once you have any three variants of a weight class through elite skills, you can unlock the master module slot on any further variants within that weight class (assuming 3xbasic on the chassis).

SnagaDance, on 03 January 2015 - 11:37 AM, said:

Of course, only if you're already a weight class expert by fully Mastering 3 variants of the same chassis before.

Well, not quite. You can basic out three Stalkers, three Atlases and three Banshees (for example) and then (again for example) take the Misery, D-DC and 3E all through elite and then master those three without taking any of the other six past basic.

But the most efficient way to do it is to fully elite (not necessarily master) three variants of your first chassis of each weight class and never have to worry about anything past 3xbasic again. This is also why I always recommend newer players start with chassis with three at least solid variants in each weight class.

Edited by Terciel1976, 03 January 2015 - 11:42 AM.

[JC Daxion]

To make this really simple...

If you take one mech of any class to master.... The rest of the time after that, all you need to do is bring 3 to basic, and you can master that class.

If you start on a new class, you need to take one to master before you can just race through with 3 at basics..


the confusing side.. If you take 3 different mechs of the weight class to elite level, that also will unlock.. But boy is that taking the Looong way around... Best off, If you bought 3 mechs, just get um through elite at least once, so you can unlock master at that class, and for the rest of the time you are good to go..



all that said, I would master everything, just because i honestly think the game changes enough, and you change enough over time that so many mechs i once did not like so much are now my favorites.. (jester) and others i could not stop playing, i haven't touched in forever, though i will add in most cases it is because of time, not so much desire.. or just having to much fun in the mechs I'm in.

But even still, once at master, i find myself playing with mech builds, and finally something clicks and suddenly that make i hated getting through elites, is now the best of the bunch.. It really is a huge difference, even adding that extra module slot, and adding weapon modules can make a giant difference to how a mech feels.

Edited by JC Daxion, 06 January 2015 - 07:15 PM.

[Taffer]

Convoluted bullshit

[Petard]

Taffer, on 06 January 2015 - 07:53 PM, said:

Convoluted bullshit

It is what it is, mate.

By the way, congratulations on your positive, helpful, and insightful contribution to the thread, your parents must be very proud...

[Jody Von Jedi]

I've been playing for almost 2 years now and I still learn something about this game every time I read the forums. This mastering of a weight class was one of my more recent discoveries. It does save a little on the grind, not having to elite 3 variants of every chassis once you've mastered 3 of a weight class.

MW:O has a huge learning curve. Try to learn something new every day!

(I just created my SC account yesterday. Wonder how big a learning curve it will have? LOL)

[Mad Porthos]

So, let's see if I got this straight.

If I am learning a new weight class(light,medium, heavy, assault), like a light mech when I have not ever piloted or basic/expert/mastered any mechs in that class - then I will be able to master a mech in that class once I have basiced+elited three seperate variants of any ONE chassis in that class... for example, after I have basiced and elited the jenner k,d,f then mastery will be an option for that chassis AND any other light chassis - say, commandos... so that I could just buy ONE commando, do all the basics, then do the elites and mastery would be available to purchase ... without having to grind two other commandos through basic AND elites. In this case, just BASICS on the other two commandos will do. But I still have to buy at least three commandos so that I can get three to basics, so that ONE can get it's elites and the master slot that is now available.

Is this correct?

Edited by Mad Porthos, 07 January 2015 - 11:28 AM.

[JC Daxion]

Jody Von Jedi, on 07 January 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

I've been playing for almost 2 years now and I still learn something about this game every time I read the forums. This mastering of a weight class was one of my more recent discoveries. It does save a little on the grind, not having to elite 3 variants of every chassis once you've mastered 3 of a weight class.

actually you don't have to master 3, You just have to unlock master, aka 3 mechs to elite, after that you are good to go. I just said master one, to avoid the "unlock" confusion"


*edit

@mad porthos, No, not exactly, You would still need 3 commando's and get them all to full basic, But after that you could pick one and run to master and sell the rest if you so choose.

Edited by JC Daxion, 07 January 2015 - 11:30 AM.