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[Spike Brave]

Hi and welcome. Here is a link to my Youtube channel: https://www.youtube....tNUCKmcC0Q7pKJQ

I've got stuff on all of the user interface and weapon systems. I also have some gameplay tutorials and mech information. If there is something I don't have, let me know and I'll cover that too. Have great luck on the battlefield and I hope to see you there!

[Redshift2k5]

http://mwomercs.com/...raining-grounds has some but it's out of date. The game modes section has some tidbits for Conquest, but sorely lacking info on all other modes.

There was a Knowledge Base section of the support section, but it was very incomplete and now MIA. all knowledge base section now only display the support@mwomercs.com email address in lieu of any of the original content.

[Lily from animove]

Koniving, on 08 January 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

Do any games have manuals anymore?
Ever since Steam became popular... I haven't seen manuals for any PC games.

with the beginning of those slim plastic cases games weren't in big boxes anymore and manuals went lost. All you get now is an small booklet with how to install the game. a few pics and the help hotline.

[dezgra]

I think an online manual from PGI would be very helpful. May even prevent new people from giving up before they get the hang of the game. It is no fun to have to search forums, wiki, rededit, youtube, or what, to figure out how to play a game. It needs to change or we are doomed.

[TripleEhBeef]

Jody Von Jedi, on 08 January 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

Haven't bought a flight sim in years, but they had very comprehensive manuals.

I just fly on Flight Gear now.

I still got one from one of the Jane's flight sim games. Honestly it's a lot closer to an actual flight manual than an instruction manual. The only other manual that was that comprehensive was for Klingon Academy.

Still, I loved the dossiers on the flyable planes they had.

[Alaskan Nobody]

dezgra, on 08 January 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

I think an online manual from PGI would be very helpful. May even prevent new people from giving up before they get the hang of the game. It is no fun to have to search forums, wiki, rededit, youtube, or what, to figure out how to play a game.

No one questions that.

The issue is that PGI does not have the manpower to create and update a manual like that consistently.
And an out of date manual is worse than no manual at all.

Case in point they recently changed the damage transfer mechanic.
Instead of cutting damage in half - it now reduces damage 40%

Something that - despite it's major game-play implications - never even made it into the patch notes!

[Ryokens leap]

All the games functions can be found in settings under keyboard. Pick a function from the keybinds and do a forum search.

[dezgra]

If PGI does not think a manual is important, then they can add "failed" to their resume when they look for work in the near future.

Edited by dezgra, 08 January 2015 - 06:04 PM.

[Hillslam]

OP: Don't listen to these clowns. I got you covered bro:

[Davegt27]

FriedIV, on 08 January 2015 - 08:52 AM, said:

I think it is about time that MWO offers or has a wiki or manual for all of the ins and outs of the game. Is there one? Where?

try to watch Spike Brave's videos

http://mwomercs.com/...-mwo-economics/

[Alaskan Nobody]

dezgra, on 08 January 2015 - 06:04 PM, said:

If PGI does not think a manual is important, then they can add "failed" to their resume when they look for work in the near future.

You will notice, I never said that they did not feel it was important - but that other things (such as getting things such as CW running) were MORE important

After all - that was THE feature promised from the get go - and it is hard to have a manual when you do not yet have a game FOR the manual.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

[dezgra]

You are correct Shar about getting CW working. But what I have seen is people who want to play the game get frustrated with all that is not explained. I just wish that PGI would see the value in getting new people in the game and making it easier for them. I will be here till the end, but allot of potential players will not.

This has been a legit game for awhile now. Every developer has updates anymore. Once they started take our money it was a GAME.

Edited by dezgra, 09 January 2015 - 12:06 AM.

[Rogue Jedi]

Jody Von Jedi, on 08 January 2015 - 01:56 PM, said:

Haven't bought a flight sim in years, but they had very comprehensive manuals.

I just fly on Flight Gear now.

unfortunately around the turn of the century flight sims seemed to become far less common (going from 1 release a month to maybe 1 a year), the old flight sims were so involved you almost needed that manual to figure out how to control the aircraft, most "flight sims" I have tried in the last decade have far less in the way of complexity and thus I find them unsatisfying

[Rushin Roulette]

Koniving, on 08 January 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

Do any games have manuals anymore?
Ever since Steam became popular... I haven't seen manuals for any PC games.

All Steam games have manuals. You can find them when you go into your Library. On the right side you have the list of "Visit shop page", "Buy more DLCs", "Buy more skins", "Buy more more", "Visit the forums (and ask which DLC you should buy)" and also "Game Manual".

Of course there is no printed manual for the digital game, but you do at least get the PDF.

Edited by Rushin Roulette, 09 January 2015 - 01:03 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

Rushin Roulette, on 09 January 2015 - 01:03 AM, said:

All Steam games have manuals. You can find them when you go into your Library. On the right side you have the list of "Visit shop page", "Buy more DLCs", "Buy more skins", "Buy more more", "Visit the forums (and ask which DLC you should buy)" and also "Game Manual".

Of course there is no printed manual for the digital game, but you do at least get the PDF.

Not all steam games have a manual. At least 80% of my current steam library does NOT have the manual in the menu that you are referring to.

Interestingly, Blood Bowl gives you a pdf of the tabletop rulebook, so while it references the game rules it neglects anything regarding the modes, function, or network capabilities of the video game. so if you wanted to know how to play online, or how to play the game's alternative live mode (instead of the default turn by turn mode) you're SOL, and tells you to do stuff like move the turn marker on the game board.

Online games like Warframe tend not to have a manual, while story-driven adventure games like Mass Effect tend to include one.

Edited by Redshift2k5, 09 January 2015 - 04:04 AM.

[Jody Von Jedi]

Rogue Jedi, on 08 January 2015 - 11:57 PM, said:

unfortunately around the turn of the century flight sims seemed to become far less common (going from 1 release a month to maybe 1 a year), the old flight sims were so involved you almost needed that manual to figure out how to control the aircraft, most "flight sims" I have tried in the last decade have far less in the way of complexity and thus I find them unsatisfying

It's been my experience as well. After 9/11 all of the newer flight sims were "dumbed down" as being too realistic.

As far as "shooter" flight sims go, Red Baron 3D was always my favorite. I still have my old RB2 disc with the free 3D Super patch and Hell's Angles patch as well. I tied installing it on my Win7 machine and the flight dynamics were all messed up. It would run, but those WWI era biplanes flew more like WWII era, IL2 Sturmovik models!

[FriedIV]

For instance, in the clan omnipod flyout, there is a small white circle with a dot in the middle of it and a horizontal cross thru the outside of the circle. I have been unable to discover what this symbol means. Though two pods have a green symbol beside it and one has a red sign beside it. I assume the green and red means on and off or allowed not allowed.

Microprose F-15 Strike Eagle III was in my opinion the best flight sim ever.

[Koniving]

FriedIV, on 09 January 2015 - 05:26 AM, said:

For instance, in the clan omnipod flyout, there is a small white circle with a dot in the middle of it and a horizontal cross thru the outside of the circle. I have been unable to discover what this symbol means. Though two pods have a green symbol beside it and one has a red sign beside it. I assume the green and red means on and off or allowed not allowed.

You can hover over an icon to get what it means.
White I believe is ECM.

Lets go through them.
Orange lightning = energy
3 purple bullets = ballistic
Red crosshair = AMS (anti-missile system).
Green dart = missile.
"0" = All hardpoints for this type are full.
"1" = One hardpoint of this type is available to fill.
"2" = two hardpoints of this type are available to fill.

And last but not least, white crosshair with a diagonal line is ECM.

[Koniving]

Void Angel, on 08 January 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

Dragon Age: Skyrim Inquisition doesn't have a manual to speak of...

Is that Dragon Age game akin to Skyrim?
It'd probably interest me.
I did the second one first. Dropped it in about 20 minutes. The first one I did next, because I kept seeing how it was virtually a different game. I'm still playing it but it's not quite 'there', so to speak.

[Alaskan Nobody]

dezgra, on 08 January 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

This has been a legit game for awhile now. Every developer has updates anymore. Once they started take our money it was a GAME.

Thank you for yet again missing my point

Yes it has been a legit game

But it is also a legit game where the info FOR the manual has been changing almost every week.
And PGI does not have the staff to keep it updates
We are not even getting it all into the PATCH NOTES FOR GODS SAKE.


THANK you.
For actually reading my post....

OH WAIT.


TLDR
PGI DOES NOT HAVE THE STAFF ####'s

You want to fix that?
You want that FIXED?

There is ONE solution to that.
And that solution has been there since the game was in closed beta

Thank you for your OWN competence and understanding

Edited by Shar Wolf, 09 January 2015 - 10:17 AM.