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[FupDup]

Another idea of mine to resurrect regarding Omnimech quirks...

Maybe Omnipod weapon quirks could be based on weapon "family" types rather than the IS method of X% Weapon A and X% all weapons same type. For example...

-X% Large Class Laser Duration (ERLL, LPL)
+Y% Class 10 Autocannon Cooldown (UAC/10, LB 10-X, AC/10)
+Z% SRM Velocity (SRM6, SRM4, SRM2)
Etc.

[Wintersdark]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 January 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:

Mind you, this also would be a blue print to fixing the IS Quirks..... instead of "Pod" specific, the IS gets the "Location" specific quirks.


I like it, but in the end, I think it's more complicated than my idea (which may be complicated enough)

Its not, though. We already have quirks that only activate with full sets (xp bonus) and others that are omnipod specific. Functionality then already exists in game, why not exploit it?

[Bishop Steiner]

Wintersdark, on 11 January 2015 - 09:07 AM, said:

Its not, though. We already have quirks that only activate with full sets (xp bonus) and others that are omnipod specific. Functionality then already exists in game, why not exploit it?

Again, am also using this as a dry run for IS Quirks

[FupDup]

On a side note, if there was a +100% Machine Gun RoF quirk attached to a full "pure" set of Summoner D pods, I'd be so happy.

[BARBAR0SSA]

For the love to pete Unlock engines for lights or Give each core of them varying speed boost.

IS lights are worlds above Clan lights, so much so I'd say that there's more disparity between them than there is on a TimberWolf vs IS Heavies.

Clans need some viable lights and that means speed. Myst Lynx overheats on boreal with 3 SLs and Srms!

Edited by shad0w4life, 11 January 2015 - 09:14 AM.

[Andi Nagasia]

look to (SuperChargers) which is the Omni Specific speed boost,

[Deathlike]

Wintersdark, on 11 January 2015 - 04:55 AM, said:

This was in Bishop's OP, BTW... Just say'n

I was specific in refining it.

I can't stand how the Mist Lynx and Kitfox both have Endo+FF, yet the Mist Lynx is designed to obliterate the DHS option in the legs, yet the Kitfox ignores it (probably due to the Kitfox-S's JJ legs).

Bishop Steiner, on 11 January 2015 - 06:20 AM, said:

um...in the OP? I'm pretty sure I was pretty specific about ""static/Locked" crits.

K?


Thx.

Sorry. If you figured out when I posted that AND stop reading the first post a while ago... I hope I can be forgiven for my mech building sins.

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 11 January 2015 - 09:48 AM, said:

I was specific in refining it.

I can't stand how the Mist Lynx and Kitfox both have Endo+FF, yet the Mist Lynx is designed to obliterate the DHS option in the legs, yet the Kitfox ignores it (probably due to the Kitfox-S's JJ legs).




Sorry. If you figured out when I posted that AND stop reading the first post a while ago... I hope I can be forgiven for my mech building sins.

your penance is to say 1000 "Hail Madcat" prayers.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 January 2015 - 09:52 AM, said:

your penance is to say 1000 "Hail Madcat" prayers.

I'd rather just drive a Mist Lynx as a punishment.

Chances are, I won't be able to make them pray at the end of the match.

Edited by Deathlike, 11 January 2015 - 09:59 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 11 January 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

I'd rather just drive a Mist Lynx as a punishment.

Chances are, I won't be able to make them pray at the end of the match.

Deal! You must drive a stock mist lynx for the next week!

[Willard Phule]

Joseph Mallan, on 10 January 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

Now get that New Engine you want when the command can only request X equipment due to what the TO&E is. And the Clans don't think that way. Might Makes right. Win the Trials If you want to have X. Otherwise you get what I give you.

I don't disagree with your thinking its just that Clanners are a very regimented society. They don'rt think to far outside the box in fact they may not even do more than peak outside.

A 55 ton LAM and a Warhammer IIC Fought 2 Heavy Omnimechs (Summoner and Hellbringer) to a draw and the LAM program was deemed a failure???

Ok, let's take BOTH tech bases back to where they SHOULD be.

Clans can't modify anything on the Omnis. Fine, works for me.

IS has to pay cbills for every modification AND their 'mechs are "out of commission" for X number of hours while the modifications are made.

Either both tech bases should be treated "per canon" or both tech bases should be treated equally with regard to modification.

[Bishop Steiner]

Willard Phule, on 12 January 2015 - 09:51 AM, said:

Ok, let's take BOTH tech bases back to where they SHOULD be.

Clans can't modify anything on the Omnis. Fine, works for me.

IS has to pay cbills for every modification AND their 'mechs are "out of commission" for X number of hours while the modifications are made.

Either both tech bases should be treated "per canon" or both tech bases should be treated equally with regard to modification.

don't forget that IS Mechs have a chance of negative quirks (RNG) generated for every modification, engine should only be in variables of the chassis tonnage, and all our positive quirks should be removed, for every non stock system.

But Joe would probably like that. Until he realized he was the only one left playing. Because while I like Joe, and find his opinions to be a nice counter to the MetaTards, the fact is Joe usually lets his Tabletop Idealism blind him to FPS Reality.

Sorry Joe, but it's true.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 12 January 2015 - 09:56 AM.

[Xetelian]

Cannot believe they won't let us spend our Cbills to upgrade our mech...

[Bishop Steiner]

Xetelian, on 12 January 2015 - 10:01 AM, said:

Cannot believe they won't let us spend our Cbills to upgrade our mech...

because then it becomes a caste war between the space poor and the space rich, and the meta has to do with who has accumulated the most cbills?

[Mcgral18]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 January 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

because then it becomes a caste war between the space poor and the space rich, and the meta has to do with who has accumulated the most cbills?

To be fair, 10 matches should be all you need for even the most expensive upgrade; DHS, which the Clams would never need.


If that's what he means.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 January 2015 - 06:48 AM, said:

Deal! You must drive a stock mist lynx for the next week!

Have you seen the stock armor values of the Mist Lynx?

"Look ma, no arms" would be the staple goto line on a future Buccaneer camo.

[Bishop Steiner]

Deathlike, on 12 January 2015 - 10:34 AM, said:

Have you seen the stock armor values of the Mist Lynx?

"Look ma, no arms" would be the staple goto line on a future Buccaneer camo.

Yeah. If it was easy it wouldn't be penance, now would it?

[Willard Phule]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 January 2015 - 09:54 AM, said:

don't forget that IS Mechs have a chance of negative quirks (RNG) generated for every modification, engine should only be in variables of the chassis tonnage, and all our positive quirks should be removed, for every non stock system.

But Joe would probably like that. Until he realized he was the only one left playing. Because while I like Joe, and find his opinions to be a nice counter to the MetaTards, the fact is Joe usually lets his Tabletop Idealism blind him to FPS Reality.

Sorry Joe, but it's true.

Can't fault him there, I do it too.

I absolutely get what he's saying, though. I'm just tired of getting the short end of the stick.

[Deathlike]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 January 2015 - 08:24 PM, said:

Yeah. If it was easy it wouldn't be penance, now would it?

I'll just pretend this convo didn't happen.

Look, there's an Ice Ferret that can't use DHS on its legs!

*runs*

[Andi Nagasia]

whether its unlocking Endo(im not saying i support FupDup)
or unlocking Fixed Non-DHS Equipment, i do think its the right path,
as it will let players with Tonnage restricted Lesser Clans,

2.5 extra tons would help my nova, -some leg armor thats:
3DHS, 3More Ammo, a larger Targeting computer?