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#1 Ultimax

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:20 PM

Don't do it. Don't be greedy.

You don't need 4 of them, and it basically screams XL engine.

I killed a few of these tonight in my Wubbringer.


The 9S is a great mech now, but those side torsos are as huge and easy to shoot as ever - the extra internal structure isn't deterring anyone.

#2 FupDup

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:22 PM

At least it's not as bad as XL Stalkers or Atlai, for what that's worth.

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:25 PM

View PostUltimatum X, on 10 January 2015 - 09:20 PM, said:

Don't do it. Don't be greedy.

You don't need 4 of them, and it basically screams XL engine.

I killed a few of these tonight in my Wubbringer.


The 9S is a great mech now, but those side torsos are as huge and easy to shoot as ever - the extra internal structure isn't deterring anyone.


Don't listen to him!

Keep doing it! I need all the cBills I can get :D

#4 hybrid black

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:26 PM

i have been doing it for weeks, no problems getting 2k dam before i go down

#5 Ultimax

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:36 PM

View Posthybrid black, on 10 January 2015 - 09:26 PM, said:

i have been doing it for weeks, no problems getting 2k dam before i go down



I killed one about an hour ago. I saw 4x ER PPCs and guessed it was mostly like an XL.

3 Alphas later he was dead with only a sad sub 100 damage score to show for his troubles. :(


Sometimes, you just need enough weapons. Not all the weapons.

Edited by Ultimatum X, 10 January 2015 - 09:36 PM.


#6 FupDup

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:40 PM

View PostUltimatum X, on 10 January 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:

Sometimes, you just need enough weapons. Not all the weapons.

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#7 Mcgral18

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:45 PM

View PostFupDup, on 10 January 2015 - 09:40 PM, said:



But....Moar....

#8 Shiroi Tsuki

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 09:54 PM

That's really cute. Hontoni kawaii desu.
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Dayum, Max settings really look awesome! Makes me want to eat my Reiterpallasch. If only I can get more than 3 FPS in the Mechlab at Max settings

Engine? Oh you mean that thing kills you when it gets scratched? Nope, don't need those

Edited by Shiroi Tsuki, 10 January 2015 - 09:56 PM.


#9 Brody319

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 10:01 PM

You want 4 PPC monster?
Try this Awesome build

#10 meteorol

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 10:55 PM

Hitreg on ER-PPCs is so bad for me that i'm thinking of only using 2 and some lasers.

When i do the "2-1 punch", there is a chance of close to 50% that the third ER PPC won't deal damage. No "the crosshair doesn't flash but you deal damage, look at the paperdoll". Zero damage, flat out no hitreg. Can't see myself using a 4th, wasting even more heat for zero damage

#11 Koniks

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 11:00 PM

View PostUltimatum X, on 10 January 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:



I killed one about an hour ago. I saw 4x ER PPCs and guessed it was mostly like an XL.

3 Alphas later he was dead with only a sad sub 100 damage score to show for his troubles. :(


Sometimes, you just need enough weapons. Not all the weapons.


If someone's going to let you pour 3 laser alphas into 1 component, it doesn't matter what build they bring.

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 11:05 PM

View PostMizeur, on 10 January 2015 - 11:00 PM, said:


If someone's going to let you pour 3 laser alphas into 1 component, it doesn't matter what build they bring.


It was chaotic, I don't think he noticed me. I was flanked by a friendly banshee and a crab.

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 11:18 PM

View PostShiroi Tsuki, on 10 January 2015 - 09:54 PM, said:

That's really cute. Hontoni kawaii desu.
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Dayum, Max settings really look awesome! Makes me want to eat my Reiterpallasch. If only I can get more than 3 FPS in the Mechlab at Max settings

Engine? Oh you mean that thing kills you when it gets scratched? Nope, don't need those


What in high holy hell am I looking at?

#14 Mcgral18

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 11:24 PM

View PostSigilum Sanctum, on 10 January 2015 - 11:18 PM, said:


What in high holy hell am I looking at?


A monstrosity.


It doesn't have a head laser.

#15 Shiroi Tsuki

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 12:04 AM

View PostSigilum Sanctum, on 10 January 2015 - 11:18 PM, said:


What in high holy hell am I looking at?

An inferior build for not having a weapon in the head or CT

#16 Sagamore

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 01:03 AM

I experimented with the 9SE Large pulse laser quirks. I have a Battlemaster that I love which features 4 LPL. Tried to emulate it on the TDR but requires XL. TDR + XL = dead in my limited experience trying that build. I usually stick to STD engines with the TDR. They are a pretty tough mech with good hardpoint distribution.

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 01:15 AM

4 is too hot anyway. Shutdown in a TDR is doom.

#18 Triskelion

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 01:46 AM

View PostLightfoot, on 11 January 2015 - 01:15 AM, said:

4 is too hot anyway. Shutdown in a TDR is doom.


XL on anything with that style of geometry is doom. I'm not sure why people still do it.
Plus you're just going to get gaussed down for your trouble anyway. I get XLs in ballistic or missile heavy builds that can get away with ammo dumping quickly from long range but not in energy builds (which could be more useful lasting longer).

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 02:24 AM

View PostTriskelion, on 11 January 2015 - 01:46 AM, said:


XL on anything with that style of geometry is doom. I'm not sure why people still do it.
Plus you're just going to get gaussed down for your trouble anyway. I get XLs in ballistic or missile heavy builds that can get away with ammo dumping quickly from long range but not in energy builds (which could be more useful lasting longer).


less slots used for more weight saved than endo. I run a 300 and 9 dhs, lets see you manage something even close to that mobility and cooling with a std and endo.

It's a perfectly acceptable tradeoff if you don't brawl with it...... and if you're letting someone core side torsi without at least stripping all your front armor that's mainly poor piloting. Having people attack a tb's side torso is par for the course no matter the variant as it's an easy way to neuter them due to hardpoint layout without having to do the extra dmg to ct core

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 04:43 AM

Hmm...
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