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[Cyborne Elemental]

I dunno Joe, I've tried UAC-5 on each arm, and tbh, having them both sync up on the same spot instead of wandering off because of convergence and having to compensate when one side jams + leading just didn't feel the same, I'd rather take the time to twist and risk it for better accuracy.

Maybe not such a great build for CW, but in pubs when all your team knows how to do is circle right, it works.

Edited by Mister D, 11 January 2015 - 08:11 AM.

[Shatterpoint]

No XL and don't whine about the speed, you're now running in easy mode, it's a stupid ass mech with no realistically target able cockpit and tiny arm weapons.

[Triordinant]

First of all, every competent Mechwarrior aims for a Jager's side torso so do NOT use an XL engine. Second: double UAC-5s for the DD and triple AC-5s (triple AC-2s if you want to move faster) for the S. Third: always have backup lasers.

Edited by Triordinant, 11 January 2015 - 08:59 AM.

[DarthPeanut]

Triple UAC5 DD build is pretty decent and so is the triple AC5 S build also. Dual gauss and dual AC20 is still viable but ammo limited.

All are squishy though thanks to the XL and easily hit side torso. No change there, high risk/ reward.

Edited by DarthPeanut, 11 January 2015 - 10:19 AM.

[Mudhutwarrior]

I run an A and an S. The A is and lrm 5 chainfire with dual ac5s and dual medium pulse. Do well with it and the chainfire lets me respond in kind to clan mechs. Great golden copulations of LRMs

The S is 3 AC5 with two medium pulse.

Both XL225. XLs are fine .

Had them since open Beta and still use them. They never go out of style. The trick is learning to drive them effectively.

[Raggedyman]

Cow And Chicken, on 11 January 2015 - 06:27 AM, said:

I think the recharging timer on Gauss is way to slow.

Is it fine with AC20? Is the gauss to fragile?

What do you guys running similar builds think?

Gauss timer is fine, annoying but fine and unlikely to go anywhere anytime soon. Crank up the range and you've got a nice little sniper unit.

AC20 works okay, it's basically down to how close in you want to get.

If you want something a little different try 2xLB 10 X and 4xMGs, an acquired taste but can be good for a laugh.

[Fate 6]

MeiSooHaityu, on 11 January 2015 - 07:31 AM, said:

There is dual A/C 10s or 20s, 3 Ultra 5s, pairs of A/C5s and 2s. Tons of good loadouts, all high mounted and running XL. I don't see the Jager lacking.

If ANYTGING, THE Cataphract has suffered worse than the Jager. The Cataphract has low slung arms and a squishy CT.

This. Jager is good for abusing high mounted weapons and high pinpoint alphas.

Cataphract is literally useless right now. It fell victim to the quirk mess. 9S and 1N both massively outshine any CTF variant.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Fate 6, on 11 January 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:

This. Jager is good for abusing high mounted weapons and high pinpoint alphas.

Cataphract is literally useless right now. It fell victim to the quirk mess. 9S and 1N both massively outshine any CTF variant.

I'll make a bold statement now. I think (post quirk), my Catapult K2 is better than my Ilya Murromets performance wise.

The Ilya (and I'm sure all Cataphracts) have soft CTs. With the Cataphracts low mount ballistics, I have to expose a lot of the Cataphract to fully utilize it's weapons. The Cat K2 has descent PPC quirks so I can fire from more solid cover and protect my CT. On top of that, the K2 relieved some good internal structure buffs the last quirk pass.

A K2 can fire PPCs from relative cover at the range, and high alpha a PPC/A/C10 combo when you have to bring all weapons to bear.

The Phract is now more vulnerable. Just IMO.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 11 January 2015 - 11:39 AM.

[Graugger]

Obviously you haven't encountered my cheese-gratter battlemech or you would be calling for a Jagermech nerf. Even with a shortage of ammo I have dropped 7 mechs in matches and can drop a Dire Wolf in my 65 ton mech in under 5 seconds.

Jagermech is perfect as is.

[HlynkaCG]

The JM-6S with it's +10% to projectile speed and range quirks is still an excellent sniper.

ETA: This is what I run, feel free to adjust ammo/armor to taste
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b716adab2790a2d

Edited by HlynkaCG, 12 January 2015 - 12:54 AM.

[Davegt27]

I don't take my Jagers' out to much maybe once a day but I could never pack enough Ammo for dual Gauss or Dual AC20 builds

My compromise build is a LB10X and one AC20 my other build is the old fall back of two AC2's and two AC5's

I did reinstall the UAC5's for a short time but I don't feel they are at the level they were in June of last year

One good thing is the Jagers' durability seems to be up

[Ovion]

Cow And Chicken, on 11 January 2015 - 06:27 AM, said:

Greetings Mechwarriors.

I am finding my Jagers lacking seriously after the quirks changes.

I only have experience with the Jagers with Dual Gauss and I stopped playing them
months ago. They explode way to fast and driving them without XL engine is a no
go for me.

I think the recharging timer on Gauss is way to slow.

Is it fine with AC20? Is the gauss to fragile?

What do you guys running similar builds think?

Regards,
C&C

I have noticed no particular lessening post-quirk, but not a huge amount of improvement, but then I don't really use my Jagers to minmax the quirks, I stuck with the same builds as before.

Those being:
FIREBRAND Standard - 2LBX10, 2ML.
Solid performer, always does consistently well.

FIREBRAND Alt - Same as above, but -2T ammo, +4SL for a bit of extra inclose kick, usually using them in a brawl over the MLs.

JM6-DDapperjager - 2LPL, 6MG. Good times.
Might try putting a bigger engine at some point.

[Mechteric]

2 LL and 2 UAC5 has been my favorite for a long time now, much better than dual gauss or ac/20 in terms of its capabilities. Also 3 AC/5's is pretty decent as well. The key thing is to always take a standard engine, the XL makes em too squishy!

[Calh Paw]

Try this build:
JM6-S (2UAC5, 4ML, STD285)

I ran many different builds, including dual gauss, tripple UAC5, AC40 and others, and this one is probably my overall favirite build.

I always get good results with this. It's dependable.

[Mawai]

I like the 4 x AC5 JM6-S build. A bit on the slow side but can be very effective when played well. More of a support role for assaults than a brawler though. No backup when it runs out of ammo though.

[Greenjulius]

Dual Gauss Jagers used to be the most annoying mech on the battlefield. They are still very powerful, although quirks have made other mechs catch up.

It's a shame AC2s have been nerfed so hard. JM6-DD's were practically designed with them in mind.

[Cow And Chicken]

Thanks for the reply guys.

Now I have tons of build to try out he he.
I took my Jager out for a drive yesterday and it didn't seem right. Or I am sucking badly driving it.
I have been driving mostly assault mechs lately and maybe my playstyle is changing.

I am not giving up on it and will try new things and take it out for a spin..

Regards,
C&C

[PurpleNinja]

The most fun Jager build I played was the dual AC20, then it got replaced by a dual King Crab. More tonnage for less wait time for battles.

[Angels Bane]

jag s = 3 ac5s, 3 med las. jag dd= 3 uac5s, 2 med las. the jags are some of the most dangerous mechs on the battle field. ive seen a lot of people claim that the jag is a weak mech. these peeps just don't know what they have

[Cleverbird]

2x AC10
4x Medium laser

is what I'm running, and it operates pretty well