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[SgtMagor]

how do we make the Atlas impenetrable in MWO? right torso always seem to be gimped, using a gauss rifle is like walking around with high explosives. for a 100ton mech a King Crab seems to be a better choice. there is no melee, so where the mech would show its true abilities by ripping mechs to pieces, doesn't seem like it will ever happen...

[Joseph Mallan]

Grand Ayatrollah, on 24 January 2015 - 09:23 AM, said:

So you've been up and down this thread posting that Atlas is fine, it doesn't need any changes, yet you can't post a decent goto build?

I will tell you why your build is no longer a goto build. That 73 points Alpha is not even an alpha. An Alpha is a strike you can deliver on an enemy target all at once. A lot of that firepower rating is with lrm's included, which is not part of an alpha strike at close range, or... is the only part of an alpha strike at long range. Now take out those lrms and see what your firepower is

Firepower rating alone is not the name of the game anymore. It's all about pinpoint long range alpha strike. Now with that said, show me a good Atlas build that will compete with a thunderbolt. Show me a build that will compete with a 4 guass direwolf. Show me a build that will compete with a 3 guass cataphract. Show me a build that will keep up with a 2 guass jager lol.

Think im asking too much? Don't forget what the Atlas is SUPPOSED to be, according to battletech at least....

"A 'Mech as powerful as possible, as impenetrable as possible, and as ugly and foreboding as conceivable, so that fear itself will be our ally."

Not in MWO my furry little friend. Maybe in a story, but in this poorly balanced muck up of the battletech universe. It is nothing but a cool freakin looking mech, and the second easiest kill in the game, after an afk locust.

That is all.

Really? I posted 2 good Go to Builds. That serve me very well. I cannot help it if you feel you need the weapon to be perfect.

My Atlas-S keeps up with all the Dire Wolves IF I can fight my fight and not the Dire's. My old Atlas-D was more than a match for most pilots in a GaussPult. But that is the point. a Mech is only as good as the pilot clicking the mouse.

And It is not ALL about long range pin point. As I have recently proven to my own curiosity.

So dismiss what you want to, its ok. Your Opinion and you are entitled to give it.

[Grand Ayatrollah]

Joseph Mallan, on 24 January 2015 - 09:59 AM, said:

Really? I posted 2 good Go to Builds. That serve me very well. I cannot help it if you feel you need the weapon to be perfect.

My Atlas-S keeps up with all the Dire Wolves IF I can fight my fight and not the Dire's. My old Atlas-D was more than a match for most pilots in a GaussPult. But that is the point. a Mech is only as good as the pilot clicking the mouse.

And It is not ALL about long range pin point. As I have recently proven to my own curiosity.

So dismiss what you want to, its ok. Your Opinion and you are entitled to give it.

You said your D build was no longer a goto build. Not everyone has an S. When you say your S build keeps up with a Direwolf, if you can fight your fight, what you mean to say is if you can hide behind your teammates long enough to get close. The Altas is not supposed to be a chicken-scratch mech using other mechs for meatshields, its supposed to be... nevermind, im not quoting the battletech description of it anymore.

I'll tell you what. I am not a very good pilot. I've been here for four days. Add me in game. We have a 1v1. Bring your favorite Atlas. I'll make you look like a 4th day nub with any trial mech you pick for me

EDIT: Except the Atlas trial. lol.

EDIT2: Did you just post an lrm atlas build, then say a mech is only as good as the pilot clicking the mouse? You gotta be ******** me stfu lol

Edited by Grand Ayatrollah, 24 January 2015 - 10:25 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Grand Ayatrollah, on 24 January 2015 - 10:11 AM, said:

You said your D build was no longer a goto build. Not everyone has an S. When you say your S build keeps up with a Direwolf, if you can fight your fight, what you mean to say is if you can hide behind your teammates long enough to get close. The Altas is not supposed to be a chicken-scratch mech using other mechs for meatshields, its supposed to be... nevermind, im not quoting the battletech description of it anymore.

I'll tell you what. I am not a very good pilot. I've been here for four days. Add me in game. We have a 1v1. Bring your favorite Atlas. I'll make you look like a 4th day nub with any trial mech you pick for me

EDIT: Except the Atlas trial. lol.

EDIT2: Did you just post an lrm atlas build, then say a mech is only as good as the pilot clicking the mouse? You gotta be ******** me stfu lol

It is used over my D-DC strictly cause It looks cool. And gives a Bonus to earnings.

Yes I posted an LRM Assault. That LRM Assault Killed 2 Mechs with Lasers when I had a blank screen, and only the eyes of my teammates to guide my 4 medium lasers. So no. I don't think I shall STFU.
Also not my Team mates but using Terrain as a shield till my weapons are in range.

I'll be in game some time after 2 more hours. Pick your own Trial if you want. Just friend me and I'll add ya. Will be fun.

ALSO if you have only been here for only 4 days, I'm a 100lbs ballerina.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 24 January 2015 - 11:15 AM.

[nehebkau]

I, for one, would welcome our new Steiner scout overlords.

[kf envy]

in defense of the atlas. that king crab you can use is an ComStar/PGI mech and anything ComStar/PGI is going to out do any IS and most Clan mechs. but what could be done is to have PGI limit the ComStar/PGI mechs to ComStar/PGI only then the atlas will be some what have in it rightful place under the thunderbolts.



but really when i turn an corner an see an lone atlas in a summoner i think i may be able to win but when i turn the corner an see an lone thunderbolt or king crab its just "F###############K!!!!!! RUN AWAY RUN AWAY RUN AWAY" 2sec before i get cored by them

[Joseph Mallan]

kf envy, on 24 January 2015 - 11:56 AM, said:

in defense of the atlas. that king crab you can use is an ComStar/PGI mech and anything ComStar/PGI is going to out do any IS and most Clan mechs. but what could be done is to have PGI limit the ComStar/PGI mechs to ComStar/PGI only then the atlas will be some what have in it rightful place under the thunderbolts.



but really when i turn an corner an see an lone atlas in a summoner i think i may be able to win but when i turn the corner an see an lone thunderbolt or king crab its just "F###############K!!!!!! RUN AWAY RUN AWAY RUN AWAY" 2sec before i get cored by them

The difference between teh two Mechs and an Atlas is the Atlas is a mix bag of weapons and not a Boat. Boating weapons improve ease of kills.

Hey Trollah... Friend Invite sent. 4:42 (-5UST)

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 24 January 2015 - 01:43 PM.

[ExAstris]

The armor bonuses also don't need to be identical on every Atlas. In particular, the ECM on the DDC gives it plenty of extra effective armor (the enemy doesn't know what section to shoot and consequently are much worse at shooting out the damaged torso sides).

I love the K (I don't know why), so I'd like to see it get even more armor as its clearly the worst Atlas, even post quirks. But the important thing to note is that I don't think the DDC needs any help, its still a top tier assault that competes well with the more heavily armed but slightly less defensible and ECMless whales and crabs.

Also, varied amounts of bonus hitpoints for different variants is already a game feature, the different catapults for example have a quite diverse set of structure bonuses (on top of damage reduction for bay door hits on models with launchers).

[DjPush]

Kaeb Odellas, on 13 January 2015 - 11:45 AM, said:

I'd like to see all of the Atlases' weapon quirks stripped away in exchange for more durability and torso twist. Something like a 50% boost to internals and 20% faster twist speed or something.

Also, give the K variant another hardpoint for gods' sakes. Give it an extra missile or something. That thing blows.

Awe! I like the K! My build has the XL360 with a NARC, Gauss rifle, 2 x LP, 2 x MP, Dual AMS and and range modules. LULzy mech to toy around in.

[Grand Ayatrollah]

Joseph Mallan, on 24 January 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

ALSO if you have only been here for only 4 days, I'm a 100lbs ballerina.

Joseph Mallan, on 24 January 2015 - 11:59 AM, said:

Hey Trollah...

LOOOOOOOOOL. Youre killing me here XD

[Joseph Mallan]

Grand Ayatrollah, on 27 January 2015 - 04:14 AM, said:

LOOOOOOOOOL. Youre killing me here XD

I know... Cause you didn't accept my Friend Request so I can attempt to kill you in game as well.

[Grand Ayatrollah]

Joseph Mallan, on 27 January 2015 - 04:26 AM, said:

attempt

At least youre honest.... I like your use on the word word... "attempt". It fits perfectly in this sentence . I slaughtered your friend Sarlic yesterday in his Atlas S. He tried to hide, its almost like he knew Atlas is no match in a 1v1. I didn't even have to torso twist. Just walked right up to him and left clicked like a mindless dummy.

[Joseph Mallan]

Grand Ayatrollah, on 27 January 2015 - 04:31 AM, said:

At least youre honest.... I like your use on the word word... "attempt". It fits perfectly in this sentence . I slaughtered your friend Sarlic yesterday in his Atlas S. He tried to hide, its almost like he knew Atlas is no match in a 1v1. I didn't even have to torso twist. Just walked right up to him and left clicked like a mindless dummy.

until we get together and I win, Of course I would say attempt. I'm a humble braggart. You sir are likely an Alt of someone with more than what 2 weeks in game if you are beating Seasoned players, So I am not fool enough to think I will own you. You challenged me. I took up the challenge. I'll be looking for you in 8 Hours.

[Sarlic]

DjPush, on 25 January 2015 - 01:01 AM, said:

Awe! I like the K! My build has the XL360 with a NARC, Gauss rifle, 2 x LP, 2 x MP, Dual AMS and and range modules. LULzy mech to toy around in.

The K is one of the hardest mech. So brutal, it punish you for each misstep.

[Grand Ayatrollah]

Sarlic, on 27 January 2015 - 04:40 AM, said:

The K is one of the hardest mech. So brutal, it punish you for each misstep.

Not to mention the S.... amirite or amirite

[Joseph Mallan]

Grand Ayatrollah, on 27 January 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

Not to mention the S.... amirite or amirite

Every Mech Gets punished for Missteps... unless they are fast and Lucky.

[Grand Ayatrollah]

Joseph Mallan, on 27 January 2015 - 04:35 AM, said:

until we get together and I win, Of course I would say attempt. I'm a humble braggart. You sir are likely an Alt of someone with more than what 2 weeks in game if you are beating Seasoned players, So I am not fool enough to think I will own you. You challenged me. I took up the challenge. I'll be looking for you in 8 Hours.

I'll tell you who i am later. Im only visiting to see what community warefare would be like, and its just another PGi disappointment. Exactly what i said on my ALT account over 2 years ago. "It will be the same game we have now (2012), with a map with flashy lights and a new type of points (LP)distributed at the end of the matches."

This game will always a half assed effort, only purpose is to try to hold together 12v12 games long enough to make some cash. Im leaving again, this time i ain't coming back. Im coming back for my permanent ban later today, amnesty program fail

[Joseph Mallan]

Grand Ayatrollah, on 27 January 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

I'll tell you who i am later. Im only visiting to see what community warefare would be like, and its just another PGi disappointment. Exactly what i said on my ALT account over 2 years ago. "It will be the same game we have now (2012), with a map with flashy lights and a new type of points (LP)distributed at the end of the matches."

This game will always a half assed effort, only purpose is to try to hold together 12v12 games long enough to make some cash. Im leaving again, this time i ain't coming back. Im coming back for my permanent ban later today, amnesty program fail

Awww. tell me now. It wouldn't change me looking for you. I know you're now a newb, and still wanna rumble with ya. But don't pretend you are boot beating seasoned players. it's dishonest.

[Grand Ayatrollah]

Joseph Mallan, on 27 January 2015 - 04:43 AM, said:

Every Mech Gets punished for Missteps... unless they are fast and Lucky.

It was hardly a misstep, i found him and a cent alone in the bog, on the lower level, walked right through the cent, and faced of 1v1 with his atlas, if you take into consideration i went 1v2, some would say, i made the misstep . But vs an atlas... thats just not a fair fight, for the atlas lol

Joseph Mallan, on 27 January 2015 - 04:48 AM, said:

Awww. tell me now. It wouldn't change me looking for you. I know you're now a newb, and still wanna rumble with ya. But don't pretend you are boot beating seasoned players. it's dishonest.

Fine i dont even care if this account lasts long enough to come get a permaban later. Bing search: MWO. My name is top related search

[Sarlic]

Grand Ayatrollah, on 27 January 2015 - 04:41 AM, said:

Not to mention the S.... amirite or amirite

The S depens how you have build it. But it's way more viable then the K.