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[Czarr]

Jags shouldn't care who their units attack, jags in lore didn't care that is why they had such sour relationship with both clans and Inner sphere. So good job for QQ on being authentic smoke jags

Edited by Czarr, 19 January 2015 - 06:44 PM.

[Prussian Havoc]

Drunk Canuck, on 19 January 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:

...228th have been working with us for a good while now, however the CGB attacks were our idea from the beginning. We didn't expect them to help us full time, but we ultimately made a mistake in picking a faction riddled with stubborn people who stick to an alliance that clearly works in favor of CGB, MS and CI more then it does CSJ, but that isn't our problem anymore.

^^ interesting

Edited by Prussian Havoc, 19 January 2015 - 07:12 PM.

[Von Blumen]

Drunk Canuck, on 19 January 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:

228th have been working with us for a good while now, however the CGB attacks were our idea from the beginning. We didn't expect them to help us full time, but we ultimately made a mistake in picking a faction riddled with stubborn organized people who stick to an alliance that clearly works in favor of CGB, MS and CI more then it does CSJ see through our BS, but that isn't our problem anymore.

Fixed it for ya.

Edited by Von Blumen, 19 January 2015 - 07:05 PM.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Czarr, on 19 January 2015 - 06:43 PM, said:

Jags shouldn't care who their units attack, jags in lore didn't care that is why they had such sour relationship with both clans and Inner sphere. So good job for QQ on being authentic smoke jags

Actually no. They did care. The Jaguars bid the lowest of the Big Four in order to get the "best" invasion corridor which was the DC as they felt, as did the rest of the Clans, that the DC offered the best resistance from honorable warriors. NOWHERE, and I challenge you to find ONE reference, did the Jaguars not care about the rules, the orders given & attacked anyone outside of their invasion corridor. This is confirmed in the Invading Clans sourcebook from page 63-69 which shows their OZ. Each world attacked is shown with brackets next to the name with letters in them. ALL of them, with the exception of Periphery worlds, said {DC}. The Smoke Jaguars never attacked the FC or the FRR. They did not attack the Jade Falcons, the Wolves, the Ghost Bears, the Diamond Sharks or the Steel Vipers. There was one battle initiated by us Ghost Bears to retake Santander's World which was a Periphery target. Beyond that the only other entity that was in conflict with the Smoke Jaguars, that was initiated by the Smoke Jaguars was Clan Nova Cat & they were in the SAME invasion corridor as the Jags.

Get your facts straight.

Edited by Jaroth Corbett, 19 January 2015 - 07:45 PM.

[_Comrade_]

Haha i love this space game of thrones.....or game of khans i guess

[TheSilken]

You know we have a great system of Trials laid out to let us handle situations exactly like this. Just saying.....

[Euphoric1RW]

Can we get a moderator to lock this thread, I'm sure you all have better things to do, all points have been made an acknowledged, this can only get uglier and uglier. The majority of the people here I know and are good guys and players, let's not take this too far, if it has not got that way already. just saying. see ya all on the battle field.

[TheSilken]

Yea this is just a series of the same points and evidence being posted again and again. I'd appreciate it if was closed and removed too.

Edited by TheSilken, 19 January 2015 - 08:06 PM.

[Von Blumen]

Vance Rezak, on 19 January 2015 - 07:56 PM, said:

Can we get a moderator to lock this thread, I'm sure you all have better things to do, all points have been made an acknowledged, this can only get uglier and uglier. The majority of the people here I know and are good guys and players, let's not take this too far, if it has not got that way already. just saying. see ya all on the battle field.

Agreed

[Peter2000]

Von Blumen, on 19 January 2015 - 06:32 PM, said:

So if we have ceasefires we are RPing, tryhard, neckbeards, who take the game too seriously; whereas if we are just here to have fun, then we should by all means attack, attack, attack, because you know-screw strategy and hey Ghost Bear controls you and think of what happens down the road. We just have to play the game by your rules, got it.

So it is OK to RP one way and not the other...hell I wouldn't even call it RP, maybe strategical sense. I mean sure, all of CSJ let us open a 2 front war and get swamped on one side, which will drain our manpower and leave an enemy that we have had on the ropes to then move freely into our space. Then we can shift back to defend against the IS, while the Bears come ripping through our border. That sounds like fun and it makes perfect sense to me, esp. considering that my unit and SA, along with several other units, spent the last month of our video gaming lives building this little empire, lets just go throw it all away because some short term mercs said so because the game is boring here and we are obviously not capable of playing this game. These are some of the same people who counted out CSJ and said we were dead when we were down to just 4 planets, now we are at nearly 30 planets and we are making the best headway of all the clans. But hey, this is Beta, so lets just throw caution into the wind and lets just roll on our long term ally, because mercs with a 7 day contract say so and have our best interests in mind. These guys are just here to have fun, you know. Sounds like an awesome plan (sarcasm).

These are the people that we are now dealing with, just take a minute to scroll these forum posts:

QQ Mercs:
got some 228 in this one too...
http://mwomercs.com/...-in-its-tracks/
http://mwomercs.com/...ion-quick-step/
don't forget this link were QQ mentions that mercs will do their own thing and screw up plans just because it is fun...
http://mwomercs.com/...years-hangover/
or this post were QQ is actively defending the same stance that we are:
http://mwomercs.com/...es-a-ceasefire/
interesting...

228:
stirring the pot against Marik
http://mwomercs.com/...t-like-a-marik/
and Kurita (first post asking the masses not to break a ceasefire and 228 agreeing)
http://mwomercs.com/...ag/page__st__20
who can forget this gem? publicly bashing their faction and calling them out for not taking the game "serious", whereas now we are taking it too "serious"...right?
http://mwomercs.com/...-is-a-disgrace/

So 228 likes to jump around, get everyone's panties in a bunch and leave (just like they are doing here) and QQ is at least doing this for the sake of the FRR, so I give them respect for that. Argue with me all you want, your past and present actions speak for themselves. We called you on it from the jump off, that makes us the RP, no fun, neckbeard nerds right...But at least we are organized, as Karpundir so rightly pointed out. CSJ and those mercs who have sided with us, see through this stream of BS, please.

Maybe if you guys go Kurita, we can then fight it out and bring back some excitement to the Kurita front, that you so desperately want...

Every link I clicked was us telling people to *actually* fight us, as opposed to forcing us to turret drop, or sit for 30 m while they camp in random places as attackers.

[Prussian Havoc]

EDIT: Originally this post called into question the continued value of this thread. Subsequently it has proven of continued exceptional worth as these same issues are now surfacing between Clan Wolf and Clan Ghost Bear.

It is my hope, Clan Wolf and Clan Ghost Bear can swiftly work through their issues and the combined Clan Drive on Terra can continue.

We only have through the end of Beta to reach Terra and the New Avalon. CGB weathered the storm of Mercenary Corps Unit attacks from CSJ Space with stoicism and resolve, refusing to get bogged down in rear area defenses.

As Clans, we need to focus our CW efforts toward actual forward movement of the frontline trace and not the loss of CW gaming hours as a result of border skirmishes between Clans... at least those are my thoughts on the matter.

Edited by Prussian Havoc, 25 January 2015 - 12:45 AM.

[Tuann]

in recap:
the QQ attacks are non sanctioned
CSJ invites CGB to take back the planets, unopposed.

done deal,..

we will get our planets back.
QQ seems to enjoy being Ghost drop warriors. enjoy the turret battles, we'll get the planets back after you rotate back to wherever you wanna go.

[Cimarb]

Tuann, on 20 January 2015 - 03:36 AM, said:

in recap:
the QQ attacks are non sanctioned
CSJ invites CGB to take back the planets, unopposed.

done deal,..

we will get our planets back.
QQ seems to enjoy being Ghost drop warriors. enjoy the turret battles, we'll get the planets back after you rotate back to wherever you wanna go.

* and we love our feline trothkin


FTFY, lol

[Tony Benoit]

TheSilken, on 19 January 2015 - 07:54 PM, said:

You know we have a great system of Trials laid out to let us handle situations exactly like this. Just saying.....

OOOOOOoooh! Can I trial of grievance anyone who challenges Mercs and the fact that comp merc units are hands down the best groups at taking planets?


Seriously, if QQ, REM, 228th and others are aligned with you guys and are taking planets for you, you shouldn't be upset, unless you want those units as opponents instead and begin to lose planets?

[reign]

Tuann, on 20 January 2015 - 03:36 AM, said:

in recap:
the QQ attacks are non sanctioned
CSJ invites CGB to take back the planets, unopposed.

done deal,..

we will get our planets back.
QQ seems to enjoy being Ghost drop warriors. enjoy the turret battles, we'll get the planets back after you rotate back to wherever you wanna go.

Didn't realize what was going on. Sorry for answering the call to arms. Have fun rolling pugs

I will stay out of the way !.

Edited because of my wires being crossed apologies for any hurt feelings.

Edited by reign, 21 January 2015 - 11:31 AM.

[-Natural Selection-]

Well despite whatever BS was said in here..

Queen,

DERP enjoyed the couple nights you hung out with us in the Wasteland channel, was good games and fun. We welcome you back anytime.

[reign]

QueenBlade, on 21 January 2015 - 11:00 AM, said:

What?

My fault,

Apologizes and will edit. /bows deeply

*went to drop* and primarily 228 was the main defenders on this planet. went to read why they were saying it was a tribute planet. got wires crossed. and now apologizing.

[Wolverine]

Now its is war!
From now on GCGB will only fight versus CSJ. We've been fighting all day to regain control over our planet Luzerne and won almost all the fights. Shortly before Ceasefire about 50 members of CSJ started defending the planet and took it back so that we did not win the planet. Involved were members of units [228], [-SA-], [RSJ], [19th], etc.......


For GCGB Clan Smoke Jaguar is now Dezgra.

Edited by Wolverine, 22 January 2015 - 06:40 AM.

[QueenBlade]

Until I see a screenshot claiming as such, 228 did not have any organized group on the planet Luzerne.

Our group was on the Clan Wolf planet, The Edge defending against FRR forces.

You may of seen a straggler, or individual, but again, 228 did not have any organized group on the planet Luzerne.

[Wolverine]

6x 228 is not enough for organized group ???