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[Evgeny Bear]

Stormwolf, on 03 June 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Pretty funny, everybody I talked to insisted that they stayed the Khan's of their respective Clans. I hope that MWO will bring us all closer together to form a strong Touman.

Damn Hippies

[NagaoftheWards]

Only through coordination and cooperation can the clans outdo all houses and the spheroid freebirths. I believe if we maintain dialogue between us we can smash any and all oncomers, especially the spiteful inner sphere players who just want to bash us.

Edited by NagaoftheWards, 07 June 2012 - 02:42 PM.

[Seth]

As the leader of a Jade Falcon led unit, I would never ally myself with one who was aligned with the Steel Vipers and frankly, I would trust a wolf about as far as I could throw an elemental. Honestly, I feel like the competitive nature between the Clans, and even between individual clansmen, is central to who they are. It just would not be the same if we stood together, as one Clan, indivisible, with fusionaires and glory for all. It would make for poor roleplay.

[Thoman Coston]

Stormwolf, on 03 June 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Pretty funny, everybody I talked to insisted that they stayed the Khan's of their respective Clans.

I hope that MWO will bring us all closer together to form a strong Touman.

Internal team structure has nothing to do with in game MWO House or Clan structure. Each clan team leader can of course call himself/herself Khan on their recruiting thread or their team website. They can call their team leader Khan, Archon or even ilkhan, who cares. Those labels only mean something to members of the respective team to organize its internal structure and have no meaning or relevance to anyone else in MWO game.

[Gremlich Johns]

One of the things I have ceased doing is considering myself Khan of CBS. While that may have been true in the NBT leagues, I cannot, in good conscience, consider myself Khan of a whole Clan, especially one who is not expected to make an appearance. First off, the timeline is right out. Second, there is NO CBS anticipated to appear in MW:O. If the game sets up a homeworlds server, maybe we might make a pitch to control CBS, but I doubt that will happen. Thirdly, it is hard work.....

Better to be in a binary/trinary subordinate to one of the invading clans..

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 09 June 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[Seth]

As the leader of my unit, I will hold the rank of Star Captain until we grow enough to become a cluster sized unit. I have no wish to run an actual galaxy sized group of people though, lol.

[Jaroth Corbett]

Gremlich Johns, on 09 June 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

One of the things I have ceased doing is considering myself Khan of CBS. While that may have been true in the NBT leagues, I cannot, in good conscience, consider myself Khan of a whole Clan, especially one who is not expected to make an appearance. First off, the timeline is right out. Second, there is NO CBS anticipated to appear in MW:O. If the game sets up a homeworlds server, maybe we might make a pitch to control CBS, but I doubt that will happen. Thirdly, it is hard work.....

Better to be in a binary/trinary subordinate to one of the invading clans..

Join the Wolves, we have chocolate chip cookies!

[Gremlich Johns]

Jaroth Winson, on 10 June 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

Join the Wolves, we have chocolate chip cookies!

oooooo, we like cookies....

I have an idea, since it is unlikely that the PGI staff will establish a forum thread for the Clans, access limited by password, perhaps someone could host one elsewhere where we would be less likely to have the random IS-dezgra posting drivel about how they just wanna shoot "clanners" or salvage clan tech.

ALL the Clans could be represented, possibly each have a passworded section of their own. NBT had this and it worked really well. Of course, no Khans, etc, just subordinate components of the Clans, each with their own threads etc under the Major Clan heading.

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 10 June 2012 - 03:16 PM.

[OfTheDark]

Gremlich Johns, on 09 June 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

One of the things I have ceased doing is considering myself Khan of CBS. While that may have been true in the NBT leagues, I cannot, in good conscience, consider myself Khan of a whole Clan, especially one who is not expected to make an appearance. First off, the timeline is right out. Second, there is NO CBS anticipated to appear in MW:O. If the game sets up a homeworlds server, maybe we might make a pitch to control CBS, but I doubt that will happen. Thirdly, it is hard work.....

Better to be in a binary/trinary subordinate to one of the invading clans..

I could be wrong but there is not anything preventing IS Houses from fighting their own is there? I mean even if we do have canon events (even without being able to actually influence them) regular matchmaking could still end up pairing forces from the same house against each other could they not? If so I see no reason why not being one of the invading Clans would preclude them from still having thier own group that we could earn LP (or the Clan equivalent) for.

As a Blood Spirit Clansman too, if only in...wait for it...SPIRIT (hahaha )...erhem...I hope for the ablilty to represented when the Clans do make an appreance. Even without participating in the invasion I do not think it unreasonable to still have non-invading Clans have their own groups.

[Ravana]

As of right now I am a Lone Wolf. I will remain such until I have had time to observe and see how MW:O handles the invasion of my brothers and sisters. At such time I will take my place amongst the Warrior Caste of Clan Wolf and seek to honor for the right to fight for my Bloodname while helping with the invasion of the Inner Sphere. However, all that being said we do not know how they will be handling it at this time so any form of organization maybe rendered moot once the system is in place. Also I think it would be foolish to follow a leader with out seeing them in combat. We are Clansmen, the strong lead.

[geck0 icaza]

Well working in the video game industry I can give some perspective.

report button: This will not be implemented for a behavior that can not be enforced by the game. Its like reporting someone for using a gun in a match in which all players have agreed to use their knives. The only case in which this would happen is if there is an actual knife mode and the person obviously hacked.

MW4 did not have the persistent online universe like MWO is projecting to have. So a lot of 3rd party leagues were created to cater to different player's likes and dislikes. In these environments you can enforce behaviors that are not able to be enforced in game normally. We cannot assume that there would be enough control through 3rd party factions to enforce this in the base game. It would be like assuming all of the IS mercs could agree on a standardized job to C-bill ratio when a biding system is in place. If the game will allow you to make rooms to play in and not just match making then make a 3rd party league. I do not want to come off as negative, but I feel someone needed to point the impossibility of the task you have set yourself upon.

I do not remember which pod cast it was but the devs have mentioned in passing (to help avoid speculation) that they were thinking of game modes, honor systems and number differences to balance out the clans. These can be enforced and balanced to make the clans playable. This would be preferable over having individuals from various origins unilaterally deciding who can and can't play as their desired factions. This is real life game and should be inclusive. We should not be seeking ways to exclude our potential Clanners but make efforts to educate them. Because asking the devs to split and/or reduce their customer base is not realistic.

What can be done is encourage them to implement the above methods (game modes, honor systems and number differences) to balance out the clans instead of nerfing the equipment. This is way more realistic of a goal and something way more players would support.

Edited by geck0 icaza, 11 June 2012 - 08:13 AM.

[Gremlich Johns]

OfTheDark, on 10 June 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

I could be wrong but there is not anything preventing IS Houses from fighting their own is there?

How do you mean?

Edited by Gremlich Johns, 11 June 2012 - 06:54 PM.

[geck0 icaza]

I think he might be referring to IS houses fight each other.

[OfTheDark]

I mean apart from offical events (canon or not) normal matchmaking would likely let a House Davion team fight another House Davion team right? If something like that could happen then they should have all of the Clans availble to be joined even if they were not in the invasion and would not technically ever fight the IS to any great degree. Though maybe they would not be allowed to join offical events...

A stretch, maybe, but I can hope.

[geck0 icaza]

I hope they work out something. I would want someone to play as their faction if there is a way of doing right. GL to ya bro.

[guardian wolf]

Stormwolf, on 03 June 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

Pretty funny, everybody I talked to insisted that they stayed the Khan's of their respective Clans.

I hope that MWO will bring us all closer together to form a strong Touman.

That idea will hold water like a an Urban mech after an AC20 ammo had a critical hit to hit.

cw roy, on 03 June 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

We never claimed to be the true Clan Wolf. There is no true Clan Wolf that is based online as a gaming community. Clan Wolf is in the books, and that's as far as real goes. As for canon names not being allowed in MWO, that doesn't concern us. If Clan Wolf USA isn't enough to get by, we will still have our own websites and members. All that matters is who we recognize ourselves as, not others' views.

As Archer said, we wouldn't be against working together. I'm sure some people would view us as a Cluster and not a Clan after that, but that's okay. It's not so easy to destroy a decade old identity.

So, you see yourselves as a part of the entity of Clan Wolf, or the actual entity itself? If you are a part, then you are welcomed Wolf Brother, we can swap stories in the mess, though, I will admit, I am not a Trueborn, I was actually taken well, prisoner by the Falcons, fought my way out of their hands, to get caught by the Wolves, who gave me a spot in their touman, and reassigned me after the Invasion to be with my old unit in the Dragoons. Served there with dignity from then on, fighting for both the Dragoons, and the Wolves.

Stormwolf, on 04 June 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

I've been at this since the mid to late 90's, I think that it's time to press the reset button and have everybody start from square one again.

Everybody would get the same chances at gaining rank or bloodnames.

Who knows, maybe we'll create a Clan council with bloodnamed warriors from various boards and form one big Clan once we become a more tight-knit faction.

Get to know some of your fellow Wolf warriors, I'd march straight into battle with guys like Jaroth Winson, NagaoftheWards or Phelan Kerensky if they ever needed a extra warrior to fill out a star.

I would hope that we can collaborate on this level Storm, as I would be happy to march out into battle with any, and all of you. May your battles be glorious, your bloodlust sated, and that we will always have the leisure of calling each other allies and comrades.

[CW Roy]

@Guardian Wolf

You'll be happy to know we abolished our higher ranks and are using only the ones that go with the canon member count - so right now our highest rank is SCaptain. We are planning to work with other Wolves, and we are currently on good terms with the Black Wolves Mercenary Company, another active hub for Wolves.

I hope to see you fighting the good fight with us all in the future.

Edited by cw roy, 12 June 2012 - 05:08 PM.

[guardian wolf]

cw roy, on 12 June 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

@Guardian Wolf

You'll be happy to know we abolished our higher ranks and are using only the ones that go with the canon member count - so right now our highest rank is SCaptain. We are planning to work with other Wolves, and we are currently on good terms with the Black Wolves Mercenary Company, another active hub for Wolves.

I hope to see you fighting the good fight with us all in the future.

Good to know Brother Wolf, may your mechs stay strong, your battles glorious, and your friends plentiful. I look forward to marching with you as one of the dogs of war.