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[L3mming2]

i read that it gave a bonus to ssrm's, is this (still) the case,
and if yes what exactly and how much.

tnx for help

[Mcgral18]

Same as isSSRMs; tonnage free half lock times.

[Deathlike]

REPORTING ARTEMIS+SSRM ABUSE NAO.

Seriously though... until they manage to separate the functionality of the lock on mechanism between Streaks and LRMs... this will continue indefinitely.

[Nightmare1]

Yes, Artemis speeds up locks for SSRMs for the IS and the Clans.

Unlike what some people claim though, this hardly constitutes abuse.

[Davers]

Nightmare1, on 25 January 2015 - 10:25 AM, said:

Yes, Artemis speeds up locks for SSRMs for the IS and the Clans.

Unlike what some people claim though, this hardly constitutes abuse.

After all, you do still have to pay for it.

[Nightmare1]

Davers, on 25 January 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

After all, you do still have to pay for it.

Yep! Sometimes I look at the price tag and go, "Eh...I think I can manage without Artemis on this build..."

Frankly, I only use Artemis if I have at least three launchers. That goes for every missile system.

[L3mming2]

Mcgral18, on 25 January 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

Same as isSSRMs; tonnage free half lock times.

tnx A+SSRM6 X 3, 5CERML stormcrow here i come

[dario03]

Still gives the benefits for zero crit and zero tonnage. Don't think they have ever said anything about fixing it since the lock on system is tied to LRM. But it should be fixed.

[L3mming2]

to elaborate is there anything fundemantaly wrong with this build?
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...92dc2cb0f49530c

[Mcgral18]

L3mming2, on 25 January 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

to elaborate is there anything fundemantaly wrong with this build?
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...92dc2cb0f49530c

Aside from Hot Hot Hot, it seems everything important is there.

Actuators would be nice, but not essential, I suppose.



Wait....that leg armour! NEVER do that. Max it out; remove something unnecessary.

Edited by Mcgral18, 26 January 2015 - 02:08 PM.

[Shredhead]

L3mming2, on 25 January 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

to elaborate is there anything fundemantaly wrong with this build?
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...92dc2cb0f49530c

Yes, everything. Wow. 30 armor on legs? 8 armor on the head? Do you want to suicide rush into the enemy, or what? Frontload your armor, full or nearly full armor on Timby legs is imperative, and your head needs more as well.
4 ERML are more than enough, and you absolutely need that arm actuator to fight lights. Way too much heat as well.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...49d6ec84b7ae4cd
Three weapon groups, right arm, torso and streaks. I've seen this way too often, people loading a crapload of clan lasers shooting all of them in chain. That's BS.

Edited by Shredhead, 25 January 2015 - 02:27 PM.

[Diablobo]

I was under the impression that the bonus only works if you have an actual Artemis SRM launcher equipped on the mech. Has anyone actually tested this? Without the extra ton and slot being paid at least once, does it still work? If so, that's an easy bug to fix.

[Pahrias]

i didnt think it affected them tbh. i tried to outfit a shawk with 4 ssrm2s with arti, and it didnt affect them. all other missiles had the prefix artemis, but not the ssrm2. has this changed since before xmas?

[Escef]

L3mming2, on 25 January 2015 - 01:07 PM, said:

to elaborate is there anything fundemantaly wrong with this build?
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...92dc2cb0f49530c

Downgrade your Streaks to 4 packs, up-armor your mech, move some equipment around, add lower arm actuators.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a133a24d7066359

[DEMAX51]

Diablobo, on 25 January 2015 - 02:40 PM, said:

I was under the impression that the bonus only works if you have an actual Artemis SRM launcher equipped on the mech. Has anyone actually tested this? Without the extra ton and slot being paid at least once, does it still work? If so, that's an easy bug to fix.

Pahrias, on 26 January 2015 - 12:32 AM, said:

i didnt think it affected them tbh. i tried to outfit a shawk with 4 ssrm2s with arti, and it didnt affect them. all other missiles had the prefix artemis, but not the ssrm2. has this changed since before xmas?

Artemis is not supposed to affect Streaks (which is why there are not "Artemis" labeled Streak weapons) but it still does.

It's important to understand what Artemis does for different missile systems, though, because its effects are not always the same.

For SRMs: Artemis gives your missiles a tighter grouping.
For LRMs: Artemis enables you to achieve lock-on faster AND gives your missiles a tighter grouping (but only if you have direct Line of Sight to your target).

For Streaks: Artemis does not affect "grouping" at all, but because the game uses the same code for Streak lock-on as it does for LRM lock-on, equipping Artemis on a streak-mech will enable you to achieve lock-on for your Streaks faster than you normally would.

Call it a bug, call it an exploit, call it a "feature" - but it's been in the game since Artemis was a thing, the devs are well aware of it, and haven't done anything about it.

[Nori Silverrage]

Uh yeah that build is bad. Don't take that much armor out of your legs. Ever!
Try this:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e5151e5318a2173

PS: I came across a stalker who apparently thought it would be ok to strip almost all armor from his legs (could tell by targeting him). So I alpha striked him twice in my Locust and killed him. That's right, my Locust. So careful with that leg armor.