375 replies to this topic

[Noesis]

operatorZ, on 05 February 2015 - 11:01 AM, said:

Kinda missing the point....we don't seek validation/approval from you about anything...nothing.

You seek constant validation on your pet theories about Clan Wolf...constantly....You are the one who needs us to pay attention to you...sad

and when we just respond with "go away troll" you get all butt hurt and start declaring that "you won't discuss the issues you don't agree with" lol...never mind that these aren't issues to us at all...they are issues only to you and your ego

guess what....that's our choice, if that's our "double standard" its ours to have, we dont have to conformto YOUR view of how we need to act, its our clan....if you don't like it...meh ....just go away troll

They are issues because you generate them.

If you insult others or generate falacies then expect them to be able to defend their position. In essence if you didn't attempt to "invalidate" others then there would be no need for the interactions. But since they do exist this is the reason for the posts. Also I don't feel a need to validate myself as I'm not the one hiding away from the truth of these issues and choosing to ignore them. I know what I stand for and have stated my intentions they have been made clear to you, so what really is there to validate after that? Please don't attempt the mind games if you fail to understand how these things relate.

The position I hold is simple. You choose to insult or generate fallacy about things on the forums I will choose to defend them. So if you want me to shut up it should be a simple logical conclusion for you to then stop insulting me or generating false perspectives. Something if anything you need to validate a reason as to why you feel you have to do this, but then this is met by a consistant message of "ignore the troll" when I do respond. You cannot insult people and then ignore them after the fact and expect to have peace from them.

Alternatively, I could just use the Clan Wolf school of thought about things and simply say, "I dont care and I will ignore you troll"?

[Noesis]

LastKhan, on 05 February 2015 - 10:32 AM, said:

Also, im still waiting or did you chicken out on our fight?

I did not recognise you had a valid reason for a trial of grievance as if anything you had insulted me. So I did not want to give any legitimacy to that process.

However, I did say that I might be interested in having a fun duel at some point instead if you were to identify it as such.

You never responded.

Edited by Noesis, 05 February 2015 - 12:54 PM.

[LastKhan]

It was your claim of you having "honor" i see you still dont. You said you were getting things ready so i waited for yours but whatever. Flake out like usual with a vid of some sorts.

If saying stuff about your pointless vids and MS paint chops is insulting then again.. whatever. troll on.

Edited by LastKhan, 05 February 2015 - 01:11 PM.

[Noesis]

LastKhan, on 05 February 2015 - 01:05 PM, said:

It was your claim of you having "honor" i see you still dont. You said you were getting things ready so i waited for yours but whatever. Flake out like usual with a vid of some sorts.

If saying stuff about your pointless vids and MS paint chops is insulting then again.. whatever. troll on.

Oh wait how does the CNC diplomacy handbook deal with this situation, ah here it is, "take a long walk off a short pier". If you are not interested in having fun and want to make a point for something you ill deserve, seriously why would I waste my time.

[Star Wolves Admin Account]

Vincent V., on 05 February 2015 - 11:09 AM, said:

Still waiting for a forum post from that person who said he would write it up and inform everyone.

Seriously though, we have no other choise than to attack Ghost Bear as it stands now. We are boxed in by them.

I do hope that when Kandis is taken it opens up even further south for us. Not like it did when we attacked the New Oslo string... It kept moving us east for some reason.

If you're talking about me I already did write it up. I posted it awhile ago asking for feedback.

[Ax2Grind]

Please, you all had your chance at a Threadnaught and it died at page 47. CSJ has the current reigning thread and there is no way your catching up. They were at page 25 days ago. Move on. It's over.

[Aresye]

Vincent V., on 05 February 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

The reason we took Tamar;

1. The southern most planet we could attack.
2. Giving us a possibility that if we took it, the next planet would be a Ghost Bear planet even further south.

I dropped on Tamar myself and there was a few people who ranted against us when we explained our reasons... Someone said that "Clan Ghost Bear would hear about this", but I am pretty sure you already knew about it and why we did so.

CGB (or at least in regards to the MS/CI agreement) shouldn't have issues with our taking of Tamar. Their corridor is secured to the Falcons and Steiners, so us cutting our way through South will not impede their new attack lanes.

As soon as we reestablish a lane into IS space, I personally won't be dropping on CGB worlds anymore. I love the competition, but it's been a looooonggg time since I've had the pleasure of fighting IS forces. Clan v Clan gets old after awhile.

[Ax2Grind]

Aresye, on 05 February 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

CGB (or at least in regards to the MS/CI agreement) shouldn't have issues with our taking of Tamar. Their corridor is secured to the Falcons and Steiners, so us cutting our way through South will not impede their new attack lanes.

As soon as we reestablish a lane into IS space, I personally won't be dropping on CGB worlds anymore. I love the competition, but it's been a looooonggg time since I've had the pleasure of fighting IS forces. Clan v Clan gets old after awhile.

Keep the activity level up and CW should be able to make an IS front happen again. As you have seen, it just comes down to focus. And I for one support you in using all of your attack lanes whenever you think it makes sense for your group. If you can take it, and hold it, then you earned it, plain and simple. Keep up the good fight Aresye.

[XSurusX]

It's not that big of a deal considering most of the time we only have 2 planets to attack, one CGB and one CJF. We can't expect the entire population to sit around and twiddle our thumbs. I always prioritize defending other clan worlds, but once we see that the defenders far outnumber the attacks, it's no big deal.

Plus those backfield planets really don't matter anyways. So far the few drops I've had against CGB were always understanding. They've all been good sports and just enjoying the match. Only CJF got pissed at us for dropping against them.

[LastKhan]

Noesis, on 05 February 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

Oh wait how does the CNC diplomacy handbook deal with this situation, ah here it is, "take a long walk off a short pier". If you are not interested in having fun and want to make a point for something you ill deserve, seriously why would I waste my time.

Its not about CNC at all. just me, Lord Khan. (im stealing it.) Go ahead chicken out, its alright. <3

Im a secret Nova Bear too wanna take a jab at our trolly clan. xD

Edited by LastKhan, 05 February 2015 - 10:12 PM.

[Noesis]

LastKhan, on 05 February 2015 - 09:50 PM, said:

Its not about CNC at all. just me, Lord Khan. (im stealing it.) Go ahead chicken out, its alright. <3

Im a secret Nova Bear too wanna take a jab at our trolly clan. xD

Like I said Lastkhan, if you identify it as a fun match and not a trial of grievance then no problem.

If you persist in wanting to measure penis sizes then I'm not interested. I'm happy with myself.

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I'll start a private PM Lastkhan to hopefully sort this out for you.

Edited by Noesis, 06 February 2015 - 01:30 AM.

[Chocowolf Sradac]

Aresye, on 05 February 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

CGB (or at least in regards to the MS/CI agreement) shouldn't have issues with our taking of Tamar. Their corridor is secured to the Falcons and Steiners, so us cutting our way through South will not impede their new attack lanes.

As soon as we reestablish a lane into IS space, I personally won't be dropping on CGB worlds anymore. I love the competition, but it's been a looooonggg time since I've had the pleasure of fighting IS forces. Clan v Clan gets old after awhile.

Many of the fellow wolves feel the same way I know I do. Having to attack clan vs clan is getting old but for wolf there is no other way at the moment to re-open the corridor once PGI's algorithm wants to work in our favor to go after the much needed planets to do that which as we all know for some time has been far less then favorable when it comes to the planets open to attack.

I don't mind if the planet gets defended I personally say let the best team win I know I'm not gonna sit on these forums and cry about it. what does irk me is some players met in-game that clearly haven't seen the faction map to understand why wolf isn't attacking the IS at the moment due to simply not being able to (Kudos to the ones that do see wolf's current dilemma and do understand). Personally I would like nothing more then to be able to hit the IS again and get the corridor fixed.

Edited by Chocowolf, 06 February 2015 - 04:37 AM.

[Fox Kell]

Kain Thul, on 05 February 2015 - 11:03 AM, said:

LOL where have they been the last week? Tamar is just the latest in a string of planets. Nice that we finally got one to attack that is actually SOMEWHAT close to bridging us back a route to the IS.

Yeah and now instead of opening up a southern planet right next to Tamar...It gives us a way out of nowhere ******** planet up north in Balsta...sigh...

[Kain Demos]

CI and ACES went Kurita.

MS (or at least a lot of it) has gone Marik.

Considering that they are now more or less defenseless we should be able to focus them very easily as long as there are no more wayward waste of time attacks on CJF.

As long as the algorithm is not too messed up we should be able to carve our necessary path through Ghost Bear relatively quickly.

Edited by Kain Thul, 06 February 2015 - 08:18 AM.

[Dino Might]

Ax2Grind, on 26 January 2015 - 01:16 AM, said:

You may want to learn some history. If your just trying to speak to a certain comic book made movie your not far off...if your actually trying to bring up real history your about as wrong as wrong gets.

Beat me to the punch. I love the story that we have created out of Thermopylae. In fact, it's probably close to about 200,000 Persians vs. about 8000 Greeks - at least 300 of which were Spartans, with the rest being from some of the Spartan helot (slave) population, and larger numbers of warriors from neighboring states like Thebes and Mycenae.

It's still a fantastic bit of history. I think the dramatization with 300 people being the only ones holding the pass is a nice story, but don't let it downplay the actual history. 8000 fighting 200,000 is still dire odds in a desperate holding action, and 300 or 8000, the bravery required was unbelievable.

I laugh when I see the Ancient Greece reference, because the IS/Clan Wars are effectively Peloponnesian Wars in space. IS = Delian League. Clans = Peloponnesian League. Only they decided to have the Athenians win in the end.

[Alexander Steel]

300 the movie was about as close to reality as this would be for the American Revolution.

[LastKhan]

Noesis, on 06 February 2015 - 12:56 AM, said:

Like I said Lastkhan, if you identify it as a fun match and not a trial of grievance then no problem.

If you persist in wanting to measure penis sizes then I'm not interested. I'm happy with myself.

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I'll start a private PM Lastkhan to hopefully sort this out for you.

Not really about ***** waving, its the clan way. But i guess im wasting my time with a nonclanner.

Edited by LastKhan, 06 February 2015 - 09:13 AM.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

LastKhan, on 06 February 2015 - 09:11 AM, said:

Not really about ***** waving, its the clan way. But i guess im wasting my time with a nonclanner.

Well, he is Dark Caste. I would not exactly expect him to care much for the traditions of Clan society.

[LastKhan]

Rouken, on 06 February 2015 - 09:20 AM, said:

Well, he is Dark Caste. I would not exactly expect him to care much for the traditions of Clan society.

Then he shouldnt say hes apart of the clans and honorable then.

[Noesis]

LastKhan, on 06 February 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:

Then he shouldnt say hes apart of the clans and honorable then.

I offered you a fun duel, you declined both here and in private messages.

Dark Caste are not a part of the Clans but are a part of Clan society.

Dark Caste are Dezgra, in the eyes of the Clans and not bound to the rule of batchall or Zelbriggen.

Dark Caste do not believe in darwanistic neanderthal philosophies to prove something, they prefer intelligence and facts.

Noesis believes that Lastkhan cannot seperate IG actions and that fantasy with the realities of being a player. And that he believes he can correct missgivings to a player in the context of the game.

Noesis believes and has the opinion that all the offences already leveled by Lastkhan and CNC that you would still be in error and still be considered as a **** as a player by him despite the IG RP associations and any trial anyhow.

Noesis will not change this view until CNC members apologise for previous offences to me as a player and no IG RP trial will change this view.