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[Whatzituyah]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 January 2015 - 07:48 PM, said:

and THIS is why it's not worth it for them to even try.

Because there is no consensus, too much hot button issues, to make it remotely worth it, cost wise. For PGI it's a lose/lose, period. Make the Lorenazis happy, and it won't make it past HG (Because HG gets to vote on these things is one thing Russ has stated). Make it anything distant enough to possibly squeak past the jackwagons at HG, and the community tears itself apart arguing over it.

In defense I only pointed out that the Mad Cat "Timber Wolfe" is based on the Marauder and the Catapult so it gets confusing to new people how can the Mad Cat be called Mad Cat if there wasn't a Mad to begin with.

"This is talking from a lore perspective and we don't see a single one in-game or mentioned in said game"

Edited by Whatzituyah, 26 January 2015 - 07:59 PM.

[LordKnightFandragon]

https://www.google.c...tml%3B594%3B748

is the warhammer

https://www.google.c...52F%3B900%3B504

is PGI's Warhammer, they look different enogh...why cant HG chill out.


and on another note, why didnt PGI use their Warhammer as scaling for the awesome? If the other mechs were scaled about that size they would all have alot better hit boxes and stuff...

Edited by LordKnightFandragon, 26 January 2015 - 08:02 PM.

[Brody319]

LordKnightFandragon, on 26 January 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

https://www.google.c...tml%3B594%3B748

is the warhammer

https://www.google.c...52F%3B900%3B504

is PGI's Warhammer, they look different enogh...why cant HG chill out.


and on another note, why didnt PGI use their Warhammer as scaling for the awesome? If the other mechs were scaled about that size they would all have alot better hit boxes and stuff...

because money? They can just say no and unless PGI sues they can't do **** about it. Since they don't have enough cash to keep up the fight very long HG wins.

They could just give it a new name technically and HG probably wouldn't notice, I don't know how many of their employees haunt these forums though.

[Whatzituyah]

LordKnightFandragon, on 26 January 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

https://www.google.c...tml%3B594%3B748

is the warhammer

https://www.google.c...52F%3B900%3B504

is PGI's Warhammer, they look different enogh...why cant HG chill out.


and on another note, why didnt PGI use their Warhammer as scaling for the awesome? If the other mechs were scaled about that size they would all have alot better hit boxes and stuff...

You mean the Warhammer in this? The designs between the two games that one being unreleased and the other being MWO the cockpit would look different from what it is now.

[Bishop Steiner]

Whatzituyah, on 26 January 2015 - 07:58 PM, said:

In defense I only pointed out that the Mad Cat "Timber Wolfe" is based on the Marauder and the Catapult so it gets confusing to new people how can the Mad Cat be called Mad Cat if there wasn't a Mad to begin with.

"This is talking from a lore perspective and we don't see a single one in-game or mentioned in said game"

... didn't think I was quoting you, TBH..... was referring to fandragon. And not even knocking his position, just using his post to demonstrate the futility.

We have, in this community, about as much consensus about the Marauder and how it should look, as we did on how to "fix ECM". Something we as a community singularly screwed the pooch on. (Of course, since certain recently un-banned "people's heroes" went out of their way to sabotage that, what a shock...)

[Whatzituyah]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 January 2015 - 08:04 PM, said:

... didn't think I was quoting you, TBH..... was referring to fandragon. And not even knocking his position, just using his post to demonstrate the futility.

We have, in this community, about as much consensus about the Marauder and how it should look, as we did on how to "fix ECM". Something we as a community singularly screwed the pooch on. (Of course, since certain recently un-banned "people's heroes" went out of their way to sabotage that, what a shock...)

Nah its a very old post I made I should have mentioned that in the post but still same thing.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Whatzituyah, on 26 January 2015 - 08:04 PM, said:

You mean the Warhammer in this? The designs between the two games that one being unreleased and the other being MWO the cockpit would look different from what it is now.

really, I think that trailer looks alot better then the game we have now. Its alot more real looking. Not all artifically darkened just cuz.

[Whatzituyah]

LordKnightFandragon, on 26 January 2015 - 08:08 PM, said:

really, I think that trailer looks alot better then the game we have now. Its alot more real looking. Not all artifically darkened just cuz.

I heard its because its the Unreal Engine. They should have tried to stick with it since its meant for high speed action shooting.

[Brody319]

LordKnightFandragon, on 26 January 2015 - 08:08 PM, said:

really, I think that trailer looks alot better then the game we have now. Its alot more real looking. Not all artifically darkened just cuz.

and it was likely all prerendered meaning the game likely never looked like that, even in the earliest stages of development.

[Ralgas]

LordKnightFandragon, on 26 January 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

https://www.google.c...tml%3B594%3B748

is the warhammer

https://www.google.c...52F%3B900%3B504

is PGI's Warhammer, they look different enogh...why cant HG chill out.


and on another note, why didnt PGI use their Warhammer as scaling for the awesome? If the other mechs were scaled about that size they would all have alot better hit boxes and stuff...

the macross image doesn't look a lot like your 1st pic either. Search the Destroid Tomahawk, which is the hg property.

[ClannerJake]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 January 2015 - 08:04 PM, said:

... consensus about the Marauder and how it should look,...

lets just ask the robotech guardians... if your so worried, Dog the posts with facepalm memes, but i doubt we have any influence unless you think the urbie is anything other then a money grab.. but what else is knew, if you spend your money on MWO you got to ask..
.

[Bishop Steiner]

ClannerJake, on 26 January 2015 - 08:18 PM, said:

lets just ask the robotech guardians... if your so worried, Dog the posts with facepalm memes, but i doubt we have any influence unless you think the urbie is anything other then a money grab.. but what else is knew, if you spend your money on MWO you got to ask..
.

yep. I'm sure Russ is retiring off what they made on the Urbie sale......

[Whatzituyah]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 January 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

yep. I'm sure Russ is retiring off what they made on the Urbie sale......

Also has a Money Pit like scrooge mc duck.

Edited by Whatzituyah, 26 January 2015 - 08:23 PM.

[ClannerJake]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 January 2015 - 08:20 PM, said:

yep. I'm sure Russ is retiring off what they made on the Urbie sale......

i need backup.. fry is out though.

Whatzituyah, on 26 January 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

Also has a Money Pit like scrooge mc duck.

your talking bout MWO right? you know, where you throw money at mechs like the urbie with no real stats, complain later the devs didn't listen or inform you, then ask how russ can live giving all his money away to chinese coders and modelers? cause my point wasn't what you think. but its your prerogative to look stupid to me, the salve of back clapping fanboys shall sooth your soul at night.

[Whatzituyah]

ClannerJake, on 26 January 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

i need backup.. fry is out though.


your talking bout MWO right? you know, where you throw money at mechs like the urbie with no real stats, complain later the devs didn't listen or inform you, then ask how russ can live giving all his money away to chinese coders and modelers? cause my point wasn't what you think. but its your prerogative to look stupid to me, the salve of back clapping fanboys shall sooth your soul at night.

First PGI is in Canada not China! Second I think if you have a lot of imagination you can see Russ in a Money Pit. Third I should of had put down I was being sarcastic but you knew that already did you? Finally I am not dumb you just took the joke the wrong way.

[Zordicron]

ClannerJake, on 26 January 2015 - 09:08 PM, said:

, the salve of back clapping fanboys shall sooth your soul at night.

I am not getting involved in whatever you guys are griping about.

But this line made me LOL, probably because I saw it without looking at the context or whatever silly arguments are being made.


More on topic, pretty sure the whole issue is "will harmony Gold sue?" Because lawsuits cost a shitload, even if you win.

I do hope HG people lurk these forums, and see how the fans of the IP hate them. HG- hold an awesome IP with very loyal fans, while simultaneously continuously causes their whole fan base to hate them wholeheartedly. HG, why not just ******* back off and grow the fan base instead of trying to crush it? there is more money in it that way.

[Wolfwood592]

I would love to see marauder redesign in game.

[Davers]

Seeing how it took less than 24 hours for people to make a 'Urbie doesn't look Urbie enough' thread, I can only imagine the backlash for a Marauder that doesn't really look like a Marauder.

[Atlasian]

My guess: Once a lawsuit is raised against PGI for making the Warhammer and Marauder in MWO, irregardless of whether their designs are close to the Macross design or not, PGI has no choice but to counter the lawsuit. This cost money and time, not really worth it for them.

They are other games out there that are using the designs and they will be quick to raise against the move to make Macross Mechs alive in Battletech/Mechwarrior again.

[Brody319]

Atlasian, on 26 January 2015 - 09:49 PM, said:

My guess: Once a lawsuit is raised against PGI for making the Warhammer and Marauder in MWO, irregardless of whether their designs are close to the Macross design or not, PGI has no choice but to counter the lawsuit. This cost money and time, not really worth it for them.

They are other games out there that are using the designs and they will be quick to raise against the move to make Macross Mechs alive in Battletech/Mechwarrior again.

which is why if they just use the Reseen designs, and rename them, then HG probably won't even bother.