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[Black Nationalist Gul Dukat]

Instead of quoting trite poetry, join the Smoke Jaguar Dominion!

[DaemonWulfe]

I have a better idea, let's join up and smoke some jaguars for dinner.

Edited by DaemonWulfe, 04 February 2015 - 03:51 PM.

[wanderer]

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I have a better idea, let's join up and smoke some jaguars.

That'd be a worse trip than a cargo hold full of bad KZ.

[DaemonWulfe]

wanderer, on 04 February 2015 - 02:40 PM, said:

That'd be a worse trip than a cargo hold full of bad KZ.

Nah bruh, it's all in how you prep the meat! You gotta strip the meat from the bones and skin quickly, and soak it in some buttermilk for a while before freezing or cooking. It helps get the gamy taste out. For a Tex-Mex flair, try lime juice.

Edited by DaemonWulfe, 04 February 2015 - 03:50 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Harathan, on 30 January 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

I'm sorry, did I hit a nerve with my post which was so obviously a joke it included a clip of Monty Python?

I'm tired of hearing that crap, and it is really frustrating to have 2-3 12 mans winning matches and still losing planets on that front, that is why we left. The implication of your post is that we are running away because we can't win, which is true in the sense that we can't win planets, even if we have multiple 12-mans dropping and winning every single match.

[jd7710]

If you are able,
save them a place
inside of you
and save one backward glance
when you are leaving
for the places they can
no longer go. 
Be not ashamed to say
you loved them,
though you may
or may not have always.
Take what they have left
and what they have taught you
with their dying
and keep it with your own. 
And in that time
when men decide and feel safe
to call the war insane,
take one moment to embrace
those gentle heroes
you left behind.
Maj. Michael O'Donnell

[DaemonWulfe]

Jonathan Paine, on 03 February 2015 - 10:23 PM, said:

I dont mind munching on Steiner. Seem to recall they did a peace treaty with the Clans early on. Soft, soft Steiners!

Indeed. We don't seem to have the numbers to stand against the clans, but we do have the numbers to roll some Steiners. Question is, can we take their planets faster than the clans are taking ours? It doesn't seem so. Some of us are predicting the fall of the FRR by this weekend if a massive counter offense doesn't happen. That was the subject of my post in the FRR thread "Battle of Tukayyid." It's pretty much the do or die moment. This is where the IS has to pull together as one. If the FRR falls, the door to the Inner Sphere is wide open.

Edited by DaemonWulfe, 04 February 2015 - 08:16 PM.

[Roadbeer]

IMO, it would be in the FRR's interest to move a bit into Steiner space to get out of the way of the Clan advance and try to make it so you only have one clan attack lane you have to worry about (plus Steiners, but... yeah). The back-track if you can.

[DaemonWulfe]

Roadbeer, on 04 February 2015 - 11:08 PM, said:

IMO, it would be in the FRR's interest to move a bit into Steiner space to get out of the way of the Clan advance and try to make it so you only have one clan attack lane you have to worry about (plus Steiners, but... yeah). The back-track if you can.

Honestly, I don't know if we'd be able to get away fast enough. Our planets are falling so fast, we'd be defending planets, just taken from Steiner, from the clans. Some of them may actually have a hard on for being the first to effectively knock a faction out, which means there's a possibility they might follow us just to be a-holes. About the only thing I could ask is for all houses to form a temporary truce, hell, have a few of the larger units take up a contract with us to help take planets back for the FRR. I know it's a shot in the dark, but it's better to at least try. There's mead, bacon, and blond-haired half Japanese, half Swedish chicks. Come have a party, we'll smoke some Jaguar with a side of Bear!

At the moment, the FRR is where the heaviest action takes place. Any IS unit that wants to make a name for themselves in CW should head on over into our space this weekend and prepare to give the clans hell. Otherwise, things are looking real bad. We may not have any planets left by the end of the weekend. If we can get some solid numbers, we may be able to re-stabilize the area over the course of a week. At this point, our future is in the hands of all of the IS houses.

Edited by DaemonWulfe, 05 February 2015 - 02:14 AM.

[AzureDragoon]

Harathan, on 30 January 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

You're referring to how Kurita decided to strike at the backs of Davion while we were fighting Marik and Liao, yes? Since Davion basically stopped attacking Kurita while they were fighting CSJ, this must be what you're referring to.

You never "stopped". Your forces continued to bite at our heels while we were trying to fight off the Clans under the false guise of that we had taken them unprovoked when instead, it was us taking back (and punishing) Davion for such early attacks..

While some of us tried calling for IS unity, you decided to open fronts upon Liao, and Marik, diverting not just your own units from the front lines of the Clan invasion, but that of Marik and Liao as well. And now Davion pushes at Steiner. So yes, we are attacking you, Yes, we are not defending from the Clans, but that is because while we are trying to put up some form of an offense that is not being stopped by overwhelming numbers of Clan and Merc Units ghost dropping thanks to putting up superior numbers, Davion chose they rather make war with us and pretty much everyone else in the Inner Sphere.

So, if you want us to stop the Clan front, I suggest you immediately negotiate Cease-Fires with all of the IS, accept the terms provided by each faction, and start helping us fight back against the Clans. Maybe then, FRR, Steiner, and Kurita can start reclaiming territory

Edited by AzureDragoon, 05 February 2015 - 02:55 AM.

[Greyfoxx]

I don't see how attacking Steiner is going to get you away from the clans. It is a lateral move and all it does is buy you a day or 2 from being completely defunct of planets if that. It isn't like you are moving towards Terra yourselves. You had 2 fronts that pushed you primarily(wolf and ghost bear). Now you attack those that primarily left you alone previously with the exception of a couple of merc units. Annoying steiner and kurita into attacking you back is a bad move. Provoke enough and they will start taking bites out of you as a way to remove that front permanently. Once you just have Rasalhague you will be pretty far away from Steiner or Kurita. Steiner could use one less front.

[DaemonWulfe]

Greyfoxx, on 05 February 2015 - 07:38 AM, said:

I don't see how attacking Steiner is going to get you away from the clans. It is a lateral move and all it does is buy you a day or 2 from being completely defunct of planets if that. It isn't like you are moving towards Terra yourselves. You had 2 fronts that pushed you primarily(wolf and ghost bear). Now you attack those that primarily left you alone previously with the exception of a couple of merc units. Annoying steiner and kurita into attacking you back is a bad move. Provoke enough and they will start taking bites out of you as a way to remove that front permanently. Once you just have Rasalhague you will be pretty far away from Steiner or Kurita. Steiner could use one less front.

You can afford to lose planets though, and that temporary cease fire with Clan Wolf? If I didn't know any better I'd say Steiner was indifferent at the time towards their IS neighbors. There's a reason Rasalhague was created as a buffer state, and that buffer state can be just as useful now to limit the amount of attack avenues the clan has on Steiner. Question is, if the clans are allowed to finish the FRR, who will be their next target? One less front will actually be two extra fronts when CGB and CSJ are breathing down your neck.

Edited by DaemonWulfe, 05 February 2015 - 07:52 AM.

[Greyfoxx]

They already have attack lanes to us. I spent the most of last night trying to take tukayyid from the smoke jags. Steiner has more fronts than you even before they were around. The temporary 2 week cease fire with wolf was an attempt to remove a front so that attention could be spent elsewhere. That cease fire ended with Steiner pushing wolf into a negative planet count for a time. Yes, we can afford to lose planets. You can't. Do you really want us to accelerate your obsolescence?

[Damon Howe]

Do you really want to find out what the rest of the IS will do to you when you do?

[Greyfoxx]

I would imagine what the rest of them will try to do regardless. The same things the clans are already doing to all the northern houses now. Try to take worlds and play the game. The other houses' actions will change little. They already take Steiner worlds if you haven't noticed. You really can't threaten something that is not in your control and will happen anyway.

[DaemonWulfe]

Greyfoxx, on 05 February 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:

I would imagine what the rest of them will try to do regardless. The same things the clans are already doing to all the northern houses now. Try to take worlds and play the game. The other houses' actions will change little. They already take Steiner worlds if you haven't noticed. You really can't threaten something that is not in your control and will happen anyway.

You would just get beat repeatedly until the clans catch up with us. It's hard to tell what the other houses would do, but I'm sure they'll have even less mercy, less reason to see your side of things. If you're willing to work with clans to save your own rear, to wipe out an underdog, the rest of the IS will not forget. At this point, I really don't want to start beef with another house regardless. It's not worth the time since we have more pressing issues.

[Greyfoxx]

That supposed underdog has been attacking Steiner. Why would anyone think badly of us for retaliating? Why would we even care if they did? It's not like we could have much more attacking us in retribution. The only faction we haven't fought is Liao. Even our ally Davion has had rogue units taking the odd planet or 2 from us. The whole point of this thread is about migrating out of the clans way but that is not what is happening. As I said you are spreading laterally and not towards Terra and thus the migrating out the way point is moot. You guys kinda already started "beef" with us. Helping to finish you off at this point gives us one less faction knocking down our door. Not how I would have liked it to happen but "ce la vie".

[Chef Kerensky]

Harathan, on 30 January 2015 - 03:27 PM, said:

Indeed, follow Kurita's fine example.

I wouldn't call what Kurita's doing "running." It's hard to run when you're stepping on fedrats the whole way.

[Chef Kerensky]

SteelWarrior, on 31 January 2015 - 03:03 AM, said:

Ever notice its the Davions who are members of units who you never see on the CW battlefield that do the most talking?

I see their big talkers on the field all the time. Then I see the smoking craters they leave behind. Ha ha ha.

[Lily from animove]

you can tell them to run to you, you can tell them to hide from clanners at you. but in the end, the clanners will also come to you.