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[Wingbreaker]

Klappspaten, on 05 March 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Says the guy with a Kurita tag. But yeah, I kind of refuse any kind of oppression.

Yet you fight for a 'nation' which is a construct of a communications corporation whose stated internal goal is to reduce technological prowess in the hopes of eventually uniting weakened nationstates under their own platform. Let's not forget the multiple instances of espionage, backstabbing, and downright traitorous conduct that Comstar participates in, going so far as to ally themselves with the clans for the sake of working against what it thinks are the problem children in its plan (Namely, the Fedcom and Kurita).

Let's talk about oppression.

[Klappspaten]

Wingbreaker, on 05 March 2015 - 02:33 PM, said:

Yet you fight for a 'nation' which is a construct of a communications corporation whose stated internal goal is to reduce technological prowess in the hopes of eventually uniting weakened nationstates under their own platform. Let's not forget the multiple instances of espionage, backstabbing, and downright traitorous conduct that Comstar participates in, going so far as to ally themselves with the clans for the sake of working against what it thinks are the problem children in its plan (Namely, the Fedcom and Kurita).

Let's talk about oppression.

Get back to the source books boy and look up the Principality of Rasalhague. And then once you know what you are talking of I might continue to ignore you.

[Wingbreaker]

Klappspaten, on 05 March 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

Get back to the source books boy and look up the Principality of Rasalhague. And then once you know what you are talking of I might continue to ignore you.

You mean the defunct political body that didn't exist for over two hundred years, and then was recreated thanks to that very same organization that I just mentioned? The one that was created as a buffer state to weaken Steiner and Kurita?

[Brusana]

No but wing that was BEFORE all of the reforms Comstar is your buddy now!

Seriously though as much as I'd like to see Wingbreaker be wrong, he's pretty much right on this one.

[Klappspaten]

Brusana, on 05 March 2015 - 03:24 PM, said:

No but wing that was BEFORE all of the reforms Comstar is your buddy now!

Seriously though as much as I'd like to see Wingbreaker be wrong, he's pretty much right on this one.

Who are you talking about?

[Brusana]

Klappspaten, on 05 March 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

Who are you talking about?

You man, in the lore the FRR of 3050 was a state created by Comstar to mess with the Kuritan's and Steiners. Then after Tukayyid they were pretty much just a Comstar protectorate.

[Klappspaten]

Brusana, on 05 March 2015 - 03:30 PM, said:

You man, in the lore the FRR of 3050 was a state created by Comstar to mess with the Kuritan's and Steiners. Then after Tukayyid they were pretty much just a Comstar protectorate.

Yes of course, let it be a protectorate as long as you wan't its still the only free and democratic faction in BT lore. And Comstar might be a bunch of religious fanatics, but they are at least a little bit less fascistic as the clans.
Now I'm fighting the Clans, later maybe Comstar.
And in MWO there is no Comstar, so **** it. At least my faction is neither fascistic nor warmongering.

[Wingbreaker]

Klappspaten, on 05 March 2015 - 03:35 PM, said:

Yes of course, let it be a protectorate as long as you wan't its still the only free and democratic faction in BT lore. And Comstar might be a bunch of religious fanatics, but they are at least a little bit less fascistic as the clans.
Now I'm fighting the Clans, later maybe Comstar.
And in MWO there is no Comstar, so **** it. At least my faction is neither fascistic nor warmongering.

Yeah, about that...

[pwnface]

oh noes a lore battle...

[Abivard]

dervishx5, on 05 March 2015 - 02:08 PM, said:

PS: I'm being cheeky.

His purple is leaking through.

[Wingbreaker]

pwnface, on 05 March 2015 - 03:49 PM, said:

oh noes a lore battle...

Run. Flee, while you still can!

[goatreich]

In my humble opinion, let them take all the worlds. WE still hold rasalhague and then we can launch attacks from there instead of being on the defense the whole time.

[wanderer]

goatreich, on 06 March 2015 - 12:53 AM, said:

In my humble opinion, let them take all the worlds. WE still hold rasalhague and then we can launch attacks from there instead of being on the defense the whole time.

You do realize Luthien (the Kuritan capital) was already attacked.

What makes you think they can't attack yours?

[Klappspaten]

wanderer, on 07 March 2015 - 09:09 AM, said:

You do realize Luthien (the Kuritan capital) was already attacked.

What makes you think they can't attack yours?

Even if it could be attacked. It would only be one clan that is able to attack it at a time, and we can deal with that. Fortress Rasalhague will stand.

[callmejon]

DaemonWulfe, on 05 February 2015 - 11:35 PM, said:

Well, I can't deny you have good reason to feel the way you do, and to say the things you say. We'll leave it at that.

If lyran Commonwealth decides to try and finish off FRR they will feel the sharpness of kuritan blades,

[Dennma]

mithril coyote, on 01 February 2015 - 04:35 PM, said:

No.

if the choice is to run away or to die then i choose to die. i choose to die on the worlds of my nation, fighting for the idea of the Free Rasalhague Republic. i will not run with my tail between my legs. the Rasalhague fell once, a victim of another seemingly overwhelming expansionist force. yet, even after we fell, we fought. we fought them for thirty years before they could claim actual victory, though they held our worlds. we fought them for Three Hundred Years, and won our freedom. we fought them when their own troops rebelled, and tried to burn our worlds. during those Three hundred years, we did not hold on because of great victories or immense military might. in fact, we had little. we fought because of the idea of Free Rasalhague. it is said those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. but history repeats itself whether we learn or not. we fought and won once. we will do so again. even if it takes another three hundred years.

we will fight.

I will fight.

[David Sumner]

FFS, It's been obvious for MONTHS that IS loses. The Clans get mechs with better survivability and better weapon ranges, which means that the "serious" competitors "have" to go clan.

Since there is no "numbers" balance between the IS and Clan, IS loses Being able to throw 2-3 times the gear at the Clans is SUPPOSED to be the balancing factor. It may take time, but the only way it doesn't happen is by Deus Ex Machina intervention on the part of PGI.

Accept it, kiss off CW as a waste of time if you want to be IS (like I do), and hopefully PGI will figure out a reasonable balancing mechanism eventually.

[Dennma]

Wingbreaker, on 05 March 2015 - 02:33 PM, said:

Yet you fight for a 'nation' which is a construct of a communications corporation whose stated internal goal is to reduce technological prowess in the hopes of eventually uniting weakened nationstates under their own platform. Let's not forget the multiple instances of espionage, backstabbing, and downright traitorous conduct that Comstar participates in, going so far as to ally themselves with the clans for the sake of working against what it thinks are the problem children in its plan (Namely, the Fedcom and Kurita).

Let's talk about oppression.

If we were planning on leaving or even open to the suggestion, don't you think we might have done it before we were down to a handful of planets? Perhaps when you're surrounded by hostile space, you will receive a similar transmission, and see the strengths of dignity and pride in yourself.

-A voice of freedom and solidarity

[Novawrecker]

goatreich, on 06 March 2015 - 12:53 AM, said:

In my humble opinion, let them take all the worlds. WE still have PGI game lock-protect rasalhague and then we can launch attacks from there instead of being on the defense the whole time.

Fixed that for you

[Koshirou]

goatreich, on 06 March 2015 - 12:53 AM, said:

In my humble opinion, let them take all the worlds. WE still hold rasalhague and then we can launch attacks from there instead of being on the defense the whole time.

That is the strategy I would recommend as well. It has the following advantages:
- Face only 2 Clans instead of 3-4, and no possible opposition from IS powers (not that there has been any lately anyway.)
- You are no longer in the Clans' main attack axis (well most of the Clans... for some reason the SJ attack vector seems to take them on a whistlestop tour of the DC rather than to Terra) and thus will draw less of their attention.
You should be able to expand out from Rasalhague this way quite a bit.

It's kinda disadvantageous for me to say this because this will leave Kurita to bear the brunt of the Clan assault with only the battered House Steiner as our ally, but... meh, we're used to it.

Edited by Koshirou, 08 March 2015 - 09:48 AM.