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#281 Kinski Orlawisch

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 06:01 AM

Let us stop this bullshit talking and look at the facts. In the last 6 days CW took 8+ worlds from CBG.
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We have a war already going on and it is time for CBG to strike back.

#282 Necromantion

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 07:25 AM

View PostGyrok, on 04 February 2015 - 08:10 PM, said:


No problem, I knew some of you were decent, I just anticipated it to be a much lower % overall than what it appears may be the case. Though, it is truly sad that the loud mouths you have are so loud they drown out the sensible people.

@Necro
@Errodien
@Noesis

All of you are on ignore. So, if you are trying to stir things up, you are wasting your text. Just FYI, I am not bothering to read any of your posts...takes more effort than it is worth to click "view anyway" for a troll.


Rofl this is laughable, every single time I have approached this fool with a to the point dissection of his BS posts he either ignores the points I make or degenerates into some RP laden drivel with lame attempts at witty insults and haughtiness. I am willing to bet that I am not even blocked.

Oh and Gyrok when you click "view anyways" to see this post because I am sure you will, just remember pointing out the truth isn't trolling chummy chum chum. Look forward to spanking you again the next time we see you and your lost puppies that follow you for whatever reason on the battlefield.

View PostJaroth Corbett, on 04 February 2015 - 08:19 PM, said:


Exactly & I saw the cached pages the guy saved to show everyone. Sans clearly explained that Gyrok did NOT ask for permission, he basically told Sans he was on the planet already THEN asked if it was OK. Thank goodness for cached pages. He is a liar. The evidence speaks for itself.


Yep indeed!

View PostEspoir, on 04 February 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:

Aside from what the other wolves, one most notably... (Gyrok seems like such a baby, never met him, and hope I never have to. A true disgrace.) I am welcoming to a friendly disposition with the Ghost Bears. They have fought well, and done what needed to be done to meet their goals. That is far more than what many alliances and factions have managed to even come close to.

I am a true fan of someone who sets their sights on something, then does the work to complete it. I have no doubts that working side by side, Terra will be ours again soon.

I greatly appreciate the kindness shown, it is a mark of a good human, to wage war for things we love or desire, but when we have what we desire, to lay down arms in friendship once more. War is not life, once it is over. But so long as it wages, there is little room for peace. I hope the war between our factions can subside, so that friendship may grow and continue. We will crush the enemies who stand against us, and the might of the Wolf/Ghost Alliance will take what we set our minds on, no matter the cost.

<S> -MS-,
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o7 Good sir! You should look to usurp... special indivduals... like Gyrok I say! Someone able to sort the realshite from the bullshite!

View PostMarc von der Heide, on 05 February 2015 - 06:01 AM, said:

Let us stop this bullshit talking and look at the facts. In the last 6 days CW took 8+ worlds from CBG.
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We have a war already going on and it is time for CBG to strike back.


Their gains have been primarily on EU peak hours sadly, not too much we can do when were at work :( Need to find more CGB people to play in the EU hours. Last night between CI and MS I believe we had about 10 groups dropping.

Edited by Necromantion, 05 February 2015 - 07:28 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 08:14 AM

View PostNecromantion, on 05 February 2015 - 07:25 AM, said:



Their gains have been primarily on EU peak hours sadly, not too much we can do when were at work :( Need to find more CGB people to play in the EU hours. Last night between CI and MS I believe we had about 10 groups dropping.


Tell yourself whatever makes you feel better. Our European Galaxies are committed to the fight and have tagged planets but almost without fail our NA ceasefire window takes a planet as well.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 08:19 AM

Keyword being primarily dear forum martyr. I do recall losing a planet the other night due to spreading forces too thin across two fronts when CGB didnt have many units dropping but the majority of gains have been made in Oceanic and EU peak hours so I will tell myself the truth, not what makes me feel better. :lol:

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 08:28 AM

View PostNecromantion, on 05 February 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

Keyword being primarily dear forum martyr. I do recall losing a planet the other night due to spreading forces too thin across two fronts when CGB didnt have many units dropping but the majority of gains have been made in Oceanic and EU peak hours so I will tell myself the truth, not what makes me feel better. :lol:


Nothing instills belief like repetition.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:07 AM

Lets look at this from a logical standpoint.

EU and Oceanic do not have a high representation for CGB, whereas there is a very modest following for CW.

Our AUS players have indicated that most of the matches turning planets during peak hours for oceanic and EU are ghost dropping on our planets most of the time due to there only being a handful of CGB units active in those hours.

Do you really think that with most MS and allied units losing maybe 1 match every 1-2 nights which is the norm in my experience since the beginning of CW with CI then MS that we are really giving up that much ground to you on those hours?

Get over yourself puppy. I deal in facts, not drivel, always have and always will.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:24 AM

View PostNecromantion, on 05 February 2015 - 09:07 AM, said:

Lets look at this from a logical standpoint.

EU and Oceanic do not have a high representation for CGB, whereas there is a very modest following for CW.

Our AUS players have indicated that most of the matches turning planets during peak hours for oceanic and EU are ghost dropping on our planets most of the time due to there only being a handful of CGB units active in those hours.

Do you really think that with most MS and allied units losing maybe 1 match every 1-2 nights which is the norm in my experience since the beginning of CW with CI then MS that we are really giving up that much ground to you on those hours?

Get over yourself puppy. I deal in facts, not drivel, always have and always will.


RCGB took a planet from us this week though we were able to take it back so clearly there are more european players in Ghost Bear than you may realize.

As far as performance of your unit is concerned I faced a 12 man of yours on Tamar last night (in the NA ceasefire, not oceanic or Euro) and admittedly lost to them--yet the planet was 93% and it made no difference. Even if your unit never loses on a planet it can still be lost due to pugstomps and other units getting rolled over. I have seen this claim before that we cannot do anything during the day and rely on our European allies to ghost drop at night and it still is not true.

You sound like the one that needs to get over yourself. I am not here claiming to be the "MS destroyer" just pointing out that we have been largely unopposed during the NA ceasefire. You may well be undefeated for several weeks straight for all I know, I do not care because it does not matter in flipping planets when 3/4 drops are against PUGs or lesser units and the tick count keeps rising. You seem to be chapped over something; I suggest you find whatever it is and deal with it so you that you come across as less of a mouthpiece.

Edited by Kain Thul, 05 February 2015 - 09:26 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:29 AM

View PostNecromantion, on 05 February 2015 - 09:07 AM, said:

Lets look at this from a logical standpoint.

EU and Oceanic do not have a high representation for CGB, whereas there is a very modest following for CW.

Our AUS players have indicated that most of the matches turning planets during peak hours for oceanic and EU are ghost dropping on our planets most of the time due to there only being a handful of CGB units active in those hours.

Do you really think that with most MS and allied units losing maybe 1 match every 1-2 nights which is the norm in my experience since the beginning of CW with CI then MS that we are really giving up that much ground to you on those hours?

Get over yourself puppy. I deal in facts, not drivel, always have and always will.


Pretty sure we have not lost a CW game for two weeks now =0

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:42 AM

View PostKain Thul, on 05 February 2015 - 08:14 AM, said:


Tell yourself whatever makes you feel better. Our European Galaxies are committed to the fight and have tagged planets but almost without fail our NA ceasefire window takes a planet as well.

View PostKain Thul, on 05 February 2015 - 08:28 AM, said:


Nothing instills belief like repetition.



Your sour replies or taking things out of context seems to continue. I said our losses of planets have been PRIMARILY on EU and Oceanic flips.

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Now that that has been clarified lets move on to your next point...

I am aware that pug matches unrelated to the groups in the MS and allied groups can result in the scales moving one way or another Kain Obvious, the SOLE point I made is that many players I talk to personally most days who live in EU/Oceanic areas in our unit and in others have described the exact scenario that I just passed on to you. The majority of CGB losses have been not on NA peak hours 2-3 of those 8+ planets have been during NA peak hours while the rest (which would be a majority JFYI) have been on the other 2 ceasefires for Oceanic and EU. Also CW does have a MUCH higher population in those time zones, especially the EU with all the Russian Wolf units. This is not fiction it is just what is happening in those attack phases.

I never implied you were claiming to be a "-MS- destroyer" which is humorous firstly because that would be a bit of a haughty claim for any wolf unit to be and secondly because I am talking about CGB as a whole, not -MS-.

Chapped? Yes indeed, over your inability to realize that I am not biased in any manner and am passing on info that has been given to me by players in various factions from the other timezone attack phases and from logging on through the day and seeing planets we flipped or flipped in the past lost through the day before the NA peak hours attack phase starts. I do find stupidity and irrationality irritating.


View PostFileTitan, on 05 February 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:


Pretty sure we have not lost a CW game for two weeks now =0


I haven't personally but I know I was talking with another fellow in the unit last night during a match and he said he had lost 2 in 4 days so I used that number so that I wouldn't sound biased.

Edited by Necromantion, 05 February 2015 - 09:53 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:47 AM

View Posthybrid black, on 04 February 2015 - 10:14 AM, said:


You talk like your in MercStar, your not even one of the units being talked about, but maybe you wish you were?


Hybrid,

Ciller is a member of Clan Kodiak. Just an fyi. Do some research first man.

All this forum warring ignoring results in game. We didn't even put up a fight against Wolf last night in the hopes they would get an IS attack lane by taking the CGB planet they had an option to attack. Used it at the end of the night to have matches when everything else was maxed outand that was all we even did to it. Then the algo failed once again. Womp.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:49 AM

View PostNecromantion, on 05 February 2015 - 09:42 AM, said:

Your sour replies or taking things out of context seems to continue. I said our losses of planets have been PRIMARILY on EU and Oceanic flips.
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Now that that has been clarified lets move on to your next point...

I am aware that pug matches unrelated to the groups in the MS and allied groups can result in the scales moving one way or another Kain Obvious, the SOLE point I made is that many players I talk to personally most days who live in EU/Oceanic areas in our unit and in others have described the exact scenario that I just passed on to you. The majority of CGB losses have been not on NA peak hours 2-3 of those 8+ planets have been during NA peak hours while the rest (which would be a majority JFYI) have been on the other 2 ceasefires for Oceanic and EU. Also CW does have a MUCH higher population in those time zones, especially the EU with all the Russian Wolf units. This is not fiction it is just what is happening in those attack phases.

I never implied you were claiming to be a "-MS- destroyer" which is humorous firstly because that would be a bit of a haughty claim for any wolf unit to be and secondly because I am talking about CGB as a whole, not -MS-.

Chapped? Yes indeed, over your inability to realize that I am not biased in any manner and am passing on info that has been given to me by players in various factions from the other timezone attack phases and from logging on through the day and seeing planets we flipped or flipped in the past lost through the day before the NA peak hours attack phase starts. I do find stupidity and irrationality irritating.




I haven't personally but I know I was talking with another fellow in the unit last night during a match and he said he had lost 2 in 4 days so I used that number so that I wouldn't sound biased.


I think I can sum up the entirety of your stance/posts in a few sentences to do everyone else the favor of reading them.

"Hi I'm Necrophiliac and I have a lot of epeen because my unit never loses so it really bugs me that a bunch of losers who suck at the game keep taking our planets by beating other losers in our faction and ghost dropping while we sleep. By the way I am not biased towards my own unit and against anyone else's in any way."

Edited by Kain Thul, 05 February 2015 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 09:53 AM

View PostKain Thul, on 05 February 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:


RCGB took a planet from us this week though we were able to take it back so clearly there are more european players in Ghost Bear than you may realize.

As far as performance of your unit is concerned I faced a 12 man of yours on Tamar last night (in the NA ceasefire, not oceanic or Euro) and admittedly lost to them--yet the planet was 93% and it made no difference. Even if your unit never loses on a planet it can still be lost due to pugstomps and other units getting rolled over. I have seen this claim before that we cannot do anything during the day and rely on our European allies to ghost drop at night and it still is not true.

You sound like the one that needs to get over yourself. I am not here claiming to be the "MS destroyer" just pointing out that we have been largely unopposed during the NA ceasefire. You may well be undefeated for several weeks straight for all I know, I do not care because it does not matter in flipping planets when 3/4 drops are against PUGs or lesser units and the tick count keeps rising. You seem to be chapped over something; I suggest you find whatever it is and deal with it so you that you come across as less of a mouthpiece.


If he is still trolling, I suggest putting him on ignore...

facts can plainly be found right here, from the game files:

http://www.reddit.co..._battle_report/

If he wants to dispute reality...let him continue...many seem to want to fly in the face of facts these days...

Edited by Gyrok, 05 February 2015 - 09:54 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:00 AM

View PostGyrok, on 05 February 2015 - 09:53 AM, said:


If he is still trolling, I suggest putting him on ignore...

facts can plainly be found right here, from the game files:

http://www.reddit.co..._battle_report/

If he wants to dispute reality...let him continue...many seem to want to fly in the face of facts these days...


After my last post I did just that. He can keep Noesis company on my ignore list.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:00 AM

View PostFileTitan, on 05 February 2015 - 09:29 AM, said:


Pretty sure we have not lost a CW game for two weeks now =0


That is false, SWOL beat MS a few times recently. Actually it might have been 2 weeks ago. But ask Ax, we got a few victories. God that felt good :P

But the rematches didnt go so well for us....;)

Edited by Fox Kell, 05 February 2015 - 10:04 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:08 AM

View PostMarc von der Heide, on 05 February 2015 - 06:01 AM, said:

Let us stop this bullshit talking and look at the facts. In the last 6 days CW took 8+ worlds from CBG.
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We have a war already going on and it is time for CBG to strike back.

Wait a bit: we still have to take back Ferris!

Anyway, i would not waste my time against CGB if we had any IS target to attack, you know..

View PostNecromantion, on 05 February 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

Keyword being primarily dear forum martyr. I do recall losing a planet the other night due to spreading forces too thin across two fronts when CGB didnt have many units dropping but the majority of gains have been made in Oceanic and EU peak hours so I will tell myself the truth, not what makes me feel better. :lol:

Indeed, i have seen more than a time the CGB forces spread on 2 or even 3 planets. Maybe it is time you stop getting so many enemies just to play some more matches when you are bored..? :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:13 AM

View PostKain Thul, on 05 February 2015 - 09:49 AM, said:


I think I can sum up the entirety of your stance/posts in a few sentences to do everyone else the favor of reading them.

"Hi I'm Necrophiliac and I have a lot of epeen because my unit never loses so it really bugs me that a bunch of losers who suck at the game keep taking our planets by beating other losers in our faction and ghost dropping while we sleep. By the way I am not biased towards my own unit and against anyone else's in any way."


1) You got my name wrong
2) My unit doesn't define me or my play, I have good games, I have bad games, I have great games, I have awful games just like anyone else. Do I think I'm decent? Yeah. Do I think I'm Morden Ashe skill level? Not at all.
3) See my 3rd quote here but I did forget that Tony had asked us to cede planets hoping that there would be other attack lanes for CW on IS targets just like we didnt bother fiddling with CSJ's attack corridor when they were trying to get to you and Steiner.
4) The only thing I am biased against is absolute stupidity which you keep illustrating in good form.


View PostGyrok, on 05 February 2015 - 09:53 AM, said:


If he is still trolling, I suggest putting him on ignore...

facts can plainly be found right here, from the game files:

http://www.reddit.co..._battle_report/

If he wants to dispute reality...let him continue...many seem to want to fly in the face of facts these days...


You link ONE day out of a week or two of 3 daily ceasefires and claim this is the defining trend when if you keep flipping through the days you can see that the opposite is true with CW in EU taking CGB planets consistently around that one report you linked to. Good try again pal but falling short of the mark as usual.

Misrepresenting and misconstruing "data" and "facts" as usual Gyrok you delusional puppy.


View PostHBizzle, on 05 February 2015 - 09:47 AM, said:

All this forum warring ignoring results in game. We didn't even put up a fight against Wolf last night in the hopes they would get an IS attack lane by taking the CGB planet they had an option to attack. Used it at the end of the night to have matches when everything else was maxed outand that was all we even did to it. Then the algo failed once again. Womp.


This I totally forgot about, I do now recall Tony talking about this a few nights ago after meeting up with some of the other units we work with. Thanks for bringing that up Hbizzle.

View PostCyclonerM, on 05 February 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

Wait a bit: we still have to take back Ferris!

Anyway, i would not waste my time against CGB if we had any IS target to attack, you know..

Indeed, i have seen more than a time the CGB forces spread on 2 or even 3 planets. Maybe it is time you stop getting so many enemies just to play some more matches when you are bored..? :rolleyes:


That is why they ceded to let some of our planets near IS territory go Cycloner

When we have our regular turnouts it isn't an issue but the occasional night when we have only a handful of units and made a poor decision to try to hold and capture two planets when we should have just focused on one resulted in an undesirable situation.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:16 AM

View PostNecromantion, on 05 February 2015 - 10:13 AM, said:

You link ONE day out of a week or two of 3 daily ceasefires and claim this is the defining trend when if you keep flipping through the days you can see that the opposite is true with CW in EU taking CGB planets consistently around that one report you linked to. Good try again pal but falling short of the mark as usual.

Misrepresenting and misconstruing "data" and "facts" as usual Gyrok you delusional puppy.


Hmm. I am honestly not sure about it, maybe he was suggesting that you could use those reddit posts to see the facts, not just that day's thread :) It could be, i check them myself to keep myself up to date with the planets flipping ..

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:26 AM

View PostCyclonerM, on 05 February 2015 - 10:16 AM, said:

Hmm. I am honestly not sure about it, maybe he was suggesting that you could use those reddit posts to see the facts, not just that day's thread :) It could be, i check them myself to keep myself up to date with the planets flipping ..


With him calling me a troll then telling me to get my facts straight then linking to the only day that I could see scrolling back for most of a week where CW didnt take a CGB planet in the EU timezone? I'm going to go with him being delusional as ever :)

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:06 AM

View PostMarc von der Heide, on 05 February 2015 - 06:01 AM, said:

Let us stop this bullshit talking and look at the facts. In the last 6 days CW took 8+ worlds from CBG.


Indeed let us stop the bullshit. We attacked Ghost Bear due to us having no attack corridor into the Inner Sphere. When we finally got a corridor into Steiner, we focused on that. Alas, you guys cut us off right away.

Then we took Tamar since it is the southern most planet we could attack. Now, it is Kandis.

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 11:16 AM

Before this thread gets jettisoned for off-topic RAGING & FLAMING, could we possibly get back on track here? Nobody's gonna ignore anybody, nobody's gonna flame anyone. Maybe we could all agree to a verbal ceasefire so's to avoid the "name & shame" clause? Take a deep breath... relax... accepting, moving on... respecting the vision...



Goosfraba.

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Goosfraba.

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I think the Bear-Wolf conflict is a good thing right now. Clearly a lot of people are pretty high strung about it. They should release their anger into the game (or a pillow imo).

This conflict probably won't end until Wolf has gained some equal measure in terms of territory comparable to Ghost Bear. It's a classic power curb. Wolves feel threat of being absorbed. Ghost Bears feel antagonized for actions of select few. It's unfortunate, because I don't think anyone really wanted this, but it needs to play itself out in-game. Hypocrisy is rank among both factions, so nobody's gonna take anymore 'calling out' seriously. You'll look more and more like fools if you keep this forum-farce going.

Personally, I never wanted ceasefire to break between any of the clans. However, the issue of creeping into other faction's attack corridors made this unavoidable, so I'm not even going to bother arguing for peace anymore. If we truly respected the ceasefire in the first place, we would have ALSO respected attack corridors and adhered to them, for the sake of Operation Revival. This is not the case. Recent events have forced the hand of Wolves. I respect that, and others need to accept it.

So, I say unto all of you: LET THERE BE WAR.





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