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[Kell Morgan]

This isn't so much of a suggestion as a question. With windows 10 tech preview out (might download this week) and with all of the new challenges that come with a new OS, Is someone there at PGI already looking at compatibility and coding for Win 10?

With windows 10 going to be a free upgrade for windows 7 and 8 I can imagine as long as there are no major bugs people will start adopting the new OS very quickly.

I guess my feature suggestion would be windows 10 comparability by the time the consumer release comes out.

[VinJade]

I am having problems with 8 as it is when it comes to this game.
W10 is going to be garbage like the rest of their OS that we had to be forced to upgrade(or more like downgrade) to(I hate all of the later Windows).

lets leave it as is unless it is unavoidable as we don't need to be forced to keep going with more garbage OSs from M$.

as it is I am going back to 7 as its the closets to XP they have that isn't Visita.

[Matthew Ace]

Theres been some comments that W10 is the gamers' windows and it's less resource hog then either 7 or 8. Based on that I would be keen enough to try it out.

[VinJade]

I have an accelerator that closes everything and gets rid of programs that are resource hogs. now mind you it doesn't have any other affect on the game other than allowing it to run smoother and that's it.

I hate all later windows and as long as we are not forced to move to w10 then by all means go for it, but it shouldn't be shoved in our faces.

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Edited by VinJade, 02 February 2015 - 08:01 AM.

[Firewuff]

There shouldn't be many compatibiliy issues once nvidia and ati get their new drivers out. Dx stays as does most of the foundational code. Im looking forward to win 10. Win 8 really wasnt that muchnof a big deal in the end. Just took a slight adjustment and by 8.1 it was reallly quite nice.

[VinJade]

I liked XP more than any other W ISOs which is why I am going to W7 as its closer to XP than the others and frankly unless it is a must w10 should not be forced on anyone.

[JadeTimberwolf]

VinJade, from what I have seen and read about Win10, the basic design goes back to how Win7 is with some Win8.1 style enhancements, what I would recommend if your system can handle it, is the same thing I did to determine if I would go from 7 to 8.1, that would be using a Virtual Machine to run the trial version of Win10. You won't be forced to upgrade however I suspect that in the next 2 years Microsoft will cease support for Win7.

As to game support, I doubt they will need to do much unless Divx gets upgraded along with the Windows OS. To be honest they might not even need to do anything other than continue work on improving the 32-bit and 64-bit clients.

[VinJade]

I say if you want w10 more power to you but I hate everything about w8 and any OS that has even a little fraction of os 8 coding in a new os will be junk(to me anyways)..

so as long as MWO never requires w10 then we are all good.

[JadeTimberwolf]

I wouldn't mind MWO supporting Linux to be honest but that's me. I am not saying that I want Win10, I am just saying that if you want to check it out at least to see what it offers, there is a way to do so without having to install over Win7. I know I am going to check it out before I make a decision about the quality of it first, just means I'll need to fire up my virtual machine again.

Edited by JadeTimberwolf, 04 February 2015 - 10:21 PM.

[Demon Horde]

It's my understanding that windows 10 is based upon windows 8's kernel , so I doubt there will be many ompatiblity problems if MWO is runign fine in 8 for you.

@VinJade
There's something else going on there. I use win 8.1 (before that I had win 8) and I've had no OS related problems with MWO. You should rly give win 10 a try if it's really less of a resource hog than 8 even (and 8 is by no mean's a resource hog). Win vista was hated for it's security on every thing and the fact it chewed up system resources like a pig in heat. Oddly enough Windows 7 is based off win vista kernel and as such it's far more resource hoggy than win 8 or 8.1. Seriously past the metro junk windows 8 is vastly superior than windows 7 in every way that matters for gaming, stop drinking the win 7 fanboy haterade windows 8 is not that terrible It's far far better than vista in every measureable way, I personaly think it's better than widows 7 where it counts (resource usage).

Edited by Demon Horde, 05 February 2015 - 03:37 AM.

[VinJade]

you misunderstand DH, I hate all later OSs past XP.
though I was tempted to go for Linux however MWO doesn't work on Linux nor does half of the things I use which would have meant going to VM.

[0rionsbane]

here is my 2 cents.
If you have windows vista,or windows 8.1 I would upgrade to 10, because they are terrible anyway.
I have windows 8.1 so I'm upgrading.

If you have windows xp,7 or even 8.0 i would keep them, whatever you do dont upgrade 8 to 8.1 on a laptop as it replaces all drivers and for a general user could break your PC for gaming until you fix integrated wireless drivers.

For a desktop honestly you can run what you want if your using 8 I would consider updating to 10 when its not an early release.

in general windows xp and windows 7 are the best os's to come from Microsoft ever. so dont bother upgrading those unless you dont like them for some reason (ex using a tablet). You wont get a more stable os and your games wont run noticeably better or have more compatibility.

Security wise 7 and xp are really a non issue. third party antivirus and some tweaks as well as a incredibly stable os make these already less likely to have a exploit or bug. and the less popular they are the less malware will be made for them.

[Kell Morgan]

From what I understand Windows 10 will be AVAILABLE for upgrade but not forced. Windows 10 is sounding really good a far as resource management and will bring the Dx 12 API into play.

For the most part yes the base code will be the same but between all versions of windows (even ultimate vs basic) there are quarks that software sometimes has a problem running correctly. I am just wondering if PGI will be ready for the change when it comes because for a new windows OS to be free it may be adopted very quickly by gamers if it is superior to win 7/8.

[VinJade]

it will never be used by me, so as long as PGI doesn't require it to play their games nor or in the future then I say whatever floats peoples boats.

[Ward Serpentine]

JadeTimberwolf, on 04 February 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

You won't be forced to upgrade however I suspect that in the next 2 years Microsoft will cease support for Win7.
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Mainstream support for Windows 7 has already ended, but the 'Death Knell" won't be until 2020

[WarGruf]

I ran win 7 64bit for a few years and recently moved to win 10 64bit.

It installs over what is already there so no need for a wipe and re-start, works from the get go with the tech preview and in my eyes (gamer system) looks better, runs smoother and even dxdiag says DX12 is enabled (being a trial sort of build).

Still I've had no problems and would easily recomend taking the upgrade, plus DX12 is NOT going to work on lower windows (Just like dx11.2 suprise suprise) that was win 8.balls exclusive.

I run a Sabertooth 990fx R2.0. AMD FX8350(Vishera) @ 4916mhz with water cooling (CoolerMaster Nepton XL 140), Corsair vengeance 1600mhz @ 1866mhz, 2X R9 270X 1100/1400mhz and a samsung evo SSD 250gig for the main drive.

After installing over the top of win 7 EVERYthing worked. I didnt have to re-install anything...

I think this time they might have planned ahead and to be fair its doing wonders for my windows confidence.

[Matthew Ace]

^Any noticeable performance improvement?

[Kell Morgan]

^^ Thats my question too WAR. Are you seeing any performance increases (not expecting many since it's not done yet)

I have the preview DL'ed but am waiting to re wipe my drive (it needs it anyway).

[Surn]

Win10 is awesome, even the tech preview is impressive.

[JadeTimberwolf]

Kell Morgan, on 06 February 2015 - 06:10 PM, said:

^^ Thats my question too WAR. Are you seeing any performance increases (not expecting many since it's not done yet)

I have the preview DL'ed but am waiting to re wipe my drive (it needs it anyway).

I recommend finding a Virtual Machine program and using that so you don't have to wipe your drive first.