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[Roadbeer]

Here's the deal.

It's called a "False Flag Operation"

Someone joined Davion with the intent of disrupting your NAP. It's not Davion, its a rogue element. We get this quite often on the Marik/Liao border.

What this has shown is that Steiner is so woefully lacking in an organized coordination structure that there was nobody to contact the other party to see what was going on, or to dispatch a company from the fight to stop the taking of the planet.

Now I know that Davion has somewhat of a command structure, so tonights loss is squarely on the head of Steiner.

[Richter Kerensky]

Roadbeer, on 02 February 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

Here's the deal.

It's called a "False Flag Operation"

Someone joined Davion with the intent of disrupting your NAP. It's not Davion, its a rogue element. We get this quite often on the Marik/Liao border.

What this has shown is that Steiner is so woefully lacking in an organized coordination structure that there was nobody to contact the other party to see what was going on, or to dispatch a company from the fight to stop the taking of the planet.

Now I know that Davion has somewhat of a command structure, so tonights loss is squarely on the head of Steiner.

From what I see of Davion Clanner Rats, they not organized enough to coordinate ceasefire house-wide. Rogue unit possible but bored Davions sick of losing to Kurita, Liao, or Marik more likely.

[Karl Marlow]

Richter B., on 02 February 2015 - 11:52 PM, said:

From what I see of Davion Clanner Rats, they not organized enough to coordinate ceasefire house-wide. Rogue unit possible but bored Davions sick of losing to Kurita, Liao, or Marik more likely.

All RP aside Davion has always been on the up an dup when it comes to their agreements. They are being out manned right now. There is no reason to open a 4th front as much as I would like to see it happen. It's either a False Flag operation or a unit that is just trying to disrupt the communities efforts 'just because'

[bobF]

Roadbeer, on 02 February 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

Here's the deal.

It's called a "False Flag Operation"

Someone joined Davion with the intent of disrupting your NAP. It's not Davion, its a rogue element. We get this quite often on the Marik/Liao border.

[Alistair Winter]

The idea of Clans sending allied units into the Inner Sphere as part of some false flag operation, goes against the whole spirit of Battletech and makes a mockery of the Battletech lore. Everyone who does something like this should be banned!

Spoiler

Or join the Wolf's Dragoons.

[jaxjace]

****, who wasnt at Tukayyid tonight?

[Joseph Mallan]

DaFrog, on 02 February 2015 - 07:57 PM, said:

Just ran into an unknown Davion unit called -JD-. Attacked Steiner space with 12 tdr 9s. I can only assume that it is a Clan unit with alternate accounts. As long as this is possible, I will not put another dime in this game. I do not understand what people are thinking when they come up stuff like that, but obviously they do not care about the longevity of this game.

Why MUST you only Assume that? Why Can't it be a splinter faction of Tryhards in the FedSun? Or a Liao Maskarovka plot to destabilize friendship between teh 2 Houses? Or worse yet. Lyran Separatists?

[Kjudoon]

All ceasefires and non aggression pacts are gentlemen's agreements. That means only those who enter into it with each other are going to respect that agreement. PGI has flatly stated they will not enforce any of these.

The larger the population, the less likely ANY of these will be respected because the large organized groups will control a smaller percentage of the population.

So what does this mean? All fronts all the time will be active. No treaties, no NAPs. Nothing.

Get ready for it.

[HARDKOR]

All possible things he is complaining about are stupid. If you don't like the zerg go fight clans, and NAP's are for breaking. And, if you put the time and effort into grinding an alt account to be viable in CW, go for it.

Also... just LOL@NS being sock puppets.

[Shredhead]

Roadbeer, on 02 February 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

Here's the deal.

It's called a "False Flag Operation"

Someone joined Davion with the intent of disrupting your NAP. It's not Davion, its a rogue element. We get this quite often on the Marik/Liao border.

What this has shown is that Steiner is so woefully lacking in an organized coordination structure that there was nobody to contact the other party to see what was going on, or to dispatch a company from the fight to stop the taking of the planet.

Now I know that Davion has somewhat of a command structure, so tonights loss is squarely on the head of Steiner.

ThomasMarik, on 02 February 2015 - 11:57 PM, said:

All RP aside Davion has always been on the up an dup when it comes to their agreements. They are being out manned right now. There is no reason to open a 4th front as much as I would like to see it happen. It's either a False Flag operation or a unit that is just trying to disrupt the communities efforts 'just because'

Of course, these people always only join factions to disrupt and pull off "False Flag" operations. It's absolutely not possible that it's just players who want to drop in CW on the planets they are offered by those who control their factions... hint; it's not the RPers who control the factions, and these are exactly the reasons.

[Joseph Mallan]

i think CW will fail cause our Community is poisonous to itself...

[LordKnightFandragon]

CW, SUmmer 2015 Meta

TBR/SCR vs TDR9s

[Joseph Mallan]

LordKnightFandragon, on 03 February 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

CW, SUmmer 2015 Meta

TBR/SCR vs TDR9s

Well to listen to teh Forums it should read

TBR/SCR vs ....?

[Gyrok]

SplinterdBrain, on 02 February 2015 - 09:21 PM, said:

I've actually dropped with a few units that are taking Steiner planets, they just don't honor the ceasefire, it is their prerogative, and they are not just ghost dropping, maybe a couple, but they are stomping through the groups that they are facing.

Not sure who they are but they seem to be pretty cool. Next time you see an attack join in with them and play some rounds, not sure why every one is so mad, this is a game for fun, does not seem like you are having fun, maybe take a break, until beta is over? BTW, I'm for hire to the highest bidder, maybe I'll join Steiner next, or Kurita for a contract or two. FRR was pretty fun, very good units there, like Davion the best so far! Peace out!

There will always be mercenaries/rogue units that do not abide by the agreements, and make your ceasefire worthless.

[AlmightyAeng]

DaFrog, on 02 February 2015 - 08:50 PM, said:

Here is another bunch of ass!@##$.
Kurita NS. Same thing, 12 zergs and then 12 tdr-9s.

To ban an account? very simple. Block the IP.

LOL. NS? Night's Scorn? Yeah...totally unknown unit, using a meta that works to win games...what a bunch of ALTS.

*snerk*

Even if they were, nothing wrong with it. At all. They're playing inside the rules PGI created.

[AlmightyAeng]

Alistair Winter, on 03 February 2015 - 01:51 AM, said:

The idea of Clans sending allied units into the Inner Sphere as part of some false flag operation, goes against the whole spirit of Battletech and makes a mockery of the Battletech lore. Everyone who does something like this should be banned!

Spoiler

Or join the Wolf's Dragoons.

I love that I didn't click the spoiler...and was about to comment with the exact same picture.

[pbiggz]

[Harathan]

Kjudoon, on 03 February 2015 - 04:19 AM, said:

All ceasefires and non aggression pacts are gentlemen's agreements. That means only those who enter into it with each other are going to respect that agreement. PGI has flatly stated they will not enforce any of these.

The larger the population, the less likely ANY of these will be respected because the large organized groups will control a smaller percentage of the population.

So what does this mean? All fronts all the time will be active. No treaties, no NAPs. Nothing.

Get ready for it.

So just public queue with a map then.

Joseph Mallan, on 03 February 2015 - 05:51 AM, said:

i think CW will fail cause our Community is poisonous to itself...

Well yeah. Half of us want CW, the other half want public queue with a map.

Edited by Harathan, 03 February 2015 - 12:04 PM.

[pbiggz]

Harathan, on 03 February 2015 - 12:02 PM, said:

So just public queue with a map then.

Your just mad because you can't stop the kuritans, the mariks, or the liaos. You wont be able to stop the jags either once they get there.

[DaFrog]

Last time I checked, this game was called mechWarrior. Not Thunderbolts and Zergs. I do not see how being composed of 12 light mechs or 12 Thunderbolts make you a better player. Grab a stock mech and I'll duel you and hand you your ass. My assumption of those units using such set-ups and being clan related is very simple: abuse the quirks, there fore PGI will have to nerf light mechs and Tdr 9s.

And the new map makes it even worse. Now there will not be any diversity on the game. It'll always be TDRs and firestarters.