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[DaemonWulfe]

So, it has come to this. Our heart has been struck, and the breaking point reached. What will be the goal of the clans once they've reached Terra?

Through our territory, they have carved a path to the steps of all houses. Despite the inner squabbling that's occurred over the past few months, perhaps it's time for the best of the IS to attack Tukayyid, take it from the clans, and show them that they will not pass!

[PheonixStorm]

So should we attack and win maybe we can get a 15yr truce from the clans not to pass that line once more.

[DaemonWulfe]

Lol, I doubt that will happen. The goal though, would be to bring a considerable amount of focus back on FRR territory, to try to restore a buffer zone between Terra and the clan advance. It'd force the clans to spread back out again. Basically, take the line from the truce of Tukayyid in lore (a year from now) and push it way back up, like past Rasalhague. Rewrite history if you will. Of course, this might take an agreement between the Dracs and Davions to help push back against the Kuritan half of the line. We'd have to begrudgingly group up with Steiner, and have some back up from Marik as well. Unfortunately, I know the political climate between these houses are, shall we say, complicated. I don't know, I keep thinking it over tactically, and the one idea that keeps prevailing is to form an alliance between ALL IS houses in the FRR.

The numbers disparity really needs to be overcome as well. We have some outstanding groups in the FRR, but for every pug 12 man we smash, there are two or three more queued up waiting, and it only takes two or three really good comp teams to shut down a decent team on defense or attack. Unfortunately, it feels like the majority of the better comp teams are what we're up against. Coupled with legions of wannabe clans dropping in pug groups, it makes for bad times in the IS. We've felt this sting many times over, as I'm sure everyone has. After two or three really bad stomps, you tend to just want to log off for a bit and take some time to let the hurt dissipate, lol!

This is all just food for thought though. Just striking up conversation to see what pans out.

Edited by DaemonWulfe, 03 February 2015 - 06:59 PM.

[DaemonWulfe]

It'd be cool to do a re-enactment of the Battle for Tukayyid as well. I imagine if all clans and all IS gathered on a weekend, it'd be an interesting event, even if it's a year early. That advance through Drac territory is frightening as well. I'd be worried as a Davion with how close the clans are to becoming their problem as well. There's incentive for them to form a lasting truce, or a truce long enough to launch a campaign to force the clans back.

Edited by DaemonWulfe, 03 February 2015 - 07:04 PM.

[Davers]

Sorry, the Battle of Tukayyid is over. Doesn't matter if it still gets fought over later on. The Clans won it. Nothing special about it anymore. It's just a planet taken on Day 54.

[QueenBlade]

Sadly the issue with the planet is before:

only CSJ could attack, but all of IS could defend

Now:
Only FRR can attack, but all Clans can defend

It brings a terrible imbalance that already affects all of CW... population imbalance.

[Carrion Hound]

.... The hell CSJ has wormhole tech now too?!

[dervishx5]

Carrion Hound, on 03 February 2015 - 08:11 PM, said:

.... The hell CSJ has wormhole tech now too?!

The Sisko lent it to them.

[Abivard]

Hate to break this to you all, but CSJ capturing that planet has no relation whatsoever to the Canon RP's huge and decisive battle for Tukayyid.

It was simply another rather unremarkable planet that flipped with what was almost the bare minimum of drops required, in the slowest and least populated combat phase. 1 out of 4 drops, or 25%, were ghost drops according to one source from within CSJ, with a total of 9 some drops occurring?

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

[Abivard]

Davers, on 03 February 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

Sorry, the Battle of Tukayyid is over. Doesn't matter if it still gets fought over later on. The Clans won it. Nothing special about it anymore. It's just a planet taken on Day 54.

By that logic the war is over, the clans have won and we can all go home. Just ignore the fact that their was not any thing special or deciding about the brief fight for that world in PGI's CW beta.

Most of that canon timeline should be looked at like a soap opera, and CW as the real world, don't be that airhead that can't tell them apart and thinks the soaps are real and real life is the fiction.

[Surn]

..and that is how freedom ends.

[Tarogato]

Abivard, on 04 February 2015 - 01:08 AM, said:

It was simply another rather unremarkable planet that flipped with what was almost the bare minimum of drops required, in the slowest and least populated combat phase. 1 out of 4 drops, or 25%, were ghost drops according to one source from within CSJ, with a total of 9 some drops occurring?

Were you there? I don't remember seeing you online. Who is your source and how reliable are they? I assure you I was present from the time Tukayyid was 0% to the time it was 60%, and the numbers in queue were even throughout. If any ghost drops occurred on this planet, it was likely beyond the 70-80% mark, because we still had two companies going strong when I passed out for the night. Also, I had never seen this slowest and least populated combat phase teaming with more activity - it wasn't something to be scoffed at for a zero-warning shjt-is-happening get-to-your-battlestations emergency response.

Edited by Tarogato, 04 February 2015 - 09:33 AM.

[Davers]

Abivard, on 04 February 2015 - 01:14 AM, said:

By that logic the war is over, the clans have won and we can all go home. Just ignore the fact that their was not any thing special or deciding about the brief fight for that world in PGI's CW beta.

Most of that canon timeline should be looked at like a soap opera, and CW as the real world, don't be that airhead that can't tell them apart and thinks the soaps are real and real life is the fiction.

Some of your words seem to agree with me. Others seem to be insulting me. I'm not sure what your point is.

[Abivard]

Tarogato, on 04 February 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Were you there? I don't remember seeing you online. Who is your source and how reliable are they? I assure you I was present from the time Tukayyid was 0% to the time it was 60%, and the numbers in queue were even throughout. If any ghost drops occurred on this planet, it was likely beyond the 70-80% mark, because we still had two companies going strong when I passed out for the night. Also, I had never seen this slowest and least populated combat phase teaming with more activity - it wasn't something to be scoffed at for a zero-warning shjt-is-happening get-to-your-battlestations emergency response.

You rarely remember anything I have noticed.

[Jonathan Paine]

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in the Inner Sphere now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Tukayyid!

[DaemonWulfe]

Davers, on 03 February 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

Sorry, the Battle of Tukayyid is over. Doesn't matter if it still gets fought over later on. The Clans won it. Nothing special about it anymore. It's just a planet taken on Day 54.