39 replies to this topic

[MungFuSensei]

LCT-3S

Works surprisingly well. SRM 2s are finally viable! Don't even bother with an engine smaller than the 190. The speed is so useful. You need to be faster than jenners and spiders to survive. This is essential because you need to be able to tail them, instead of just circling them. You wanna get on their butt and never let go. You are the coppertone dog pulling down their bikini. This is universal for all Locust chassis.

As for the SRM 2s, well, we're only dealing with 20 tons, and a ridiculously small amount of armor. You need every point of armor you can get, every ounce of speed you can get. Weapons come afterward. Streaks are too heavy, and if they're the only weapon you're relying on, you need a tag to go with them. It's possible to set up like that, but you'll never have the speed you need. SRM 2s Don't need locks, and fire a full second faster. If the poor fool doesn't have AMS, chainfire is almost a non stop stream. You can chew up back armor like no one's business.

I'm loving this little thing. You are the light that even other lights find annoying to deal with.

[levitas]

Would it be worth it to cut a ton of ammo for a medium laser? You'll lose out in damage in late game (if you live that long, and only maybe), but gain a higher DPS

[MonkeyCheese]

solar levitas, on 16 October 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Would it be worth it to cut a ton of ammo for a medium laser? You'll lose out in damage in late game (if you live that long, and only maybe), but gain a higher DPS

I agree been using this build after the patch and having even a single ML as backup is good

also that armor looks a little too low, got mine at 125 outta 138

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 16 October 2013 - 08:01 PM.

[Xeno Phalcon]

Just picked up the 3S and this immediately was what popped out the door LCT-3S

ammo is a bit on the low side but your only out to give other lights grief (I had jenners and spiders running, a commando could probably do it better but its still nice zipping around at 153kph pounding the most agile mechs repeatedly. Now if I could only shoehorn in that forth SSRM2 and another ton of ammo.....

[Vanguard319]

My 3S:

2 LRM5s w 3 tons of ammo

1 med. laser

XL 180 engine

Easily the fastest, and smallest missile boat in the game. Armor is stock, since it doesn't need to get in close. Works very well as a support mech in light lances, while still having some close/mid range weaponry.

[Ardaz]

LCT-3S

[Fuggles]

I've basiced out all 3 locusts and I really don't like this mech. it's because it's basically impossible to utilize its hard points effectively and I just feel it misses out compared to the other two.

I've found though it can still be effective, just have to make compromises. .I've tries every combo from 4srm2s to 2-3 streaks and medium/small lasers.

I keep going back to the fact that streaks do the most damage per ton of ammo so they are the way to go. You'll run out with 1 ton and you don't have bap so not having a backup laser is a bad idea so I found the best compromise is the stock loadout, 2 streaks 1 mlas 2 tons ammo.

Sometimes it just seems better to have more launchers and less ammo but I died empty more than I died with ammo to spare.

[MungFuSensei]

Fuggles, on 17 October 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

I've basiced out all 3 locusts and I really don't like this mech. it's because it's basically impossible to utilize its hard points effectively and I just feel it misses out compared to the other two.

I've found though it can still be effective, just have to make compromises. .I've tries every combo from 4srm2s to 2-3 streaks and medium/small lasers.

I keep going back to the fact that streaks do the most damage per ton of ammo so they are the way to go. You'll run out with 1 ton and you don't have bap so not having a backup laser is a bad idea so I found the best compromise is the stock loadout, 2 streaks 1 mlas 2 tons ammo.

Sometimes it just seems better to have more launchers and less ammo but I died empty more than I died with ammo to spare.

Being reliant upon streaks makes you vulnerable to ecm. They should only ever be a backup weapon. I devote 7 tons to weapons, so maybe 2 srm2, 1 streak, 1 sm laser and then ammo. That gives you flexibility without leaving you with just a laser against cicadas and spiders.

[-Muta-]

Xeno Phalcon, on 16 October 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

Just picked up the 3S and this immediately was what popped out the door LCT-3S

ammo is a bit on the low side but your only out to give other lights grief (I had jenners and spiders running, a commando could probably do it better but its still nice zipping around at 153kph pounding the most agile mechs repeatedly. Now if I could only shoehorn in that forth SSRM2 and another ton of ammo.....

IMHO, that build is way too under rated.

- 1 Ton of ammo is never enough. A mech with 3 streaks needs at least 3 tons of ammo, like the COM-2D <<< (which I use with 4 tons of ammo)

- the issue with locust in general is that they might be hard to hit with lasers but... They are the favorite mech to kill for commandos. They not only have streaks; they are faster as well.

[Bront]

MungFuSensei, on 16 October 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

LCT-3S

Why not replace the 4SRM2s with 2 SRM4s?

Also, I'd drop a ton of ammo for an ML, but that's otherwise what I plan on doing.

[Dawnstealer]

MungFuSensei, on 16 October 2013 - 07:25 PM, said:

LCT-3S

Works surprisingly well. SRM 2s are finally viable! Don't even bother with an engine smaller than the 190. The speed is so useful. You need to be faster than jenners and spiders to survive. This is essential because you need to be able to tail them, instead of just circling them. You wanna get on their butt and never let go. You are the coppertone dog pulling down their bikini. This is universal for all Locust chassis.

As for the SRM 2s, well, we're only dealing with 20 tons, and a ridiculously small amount of armor. You need every point of armor you can get, every ounce of speed you can get. Weapons come afterward. Streaks are too heavy, and if they're the only weapon you're relying on, you need a tag to go with them. It's possible to set up like that, but you'll never have the speed you need. SRM 2s Don't need locks, and fire a full second faster. If the poor fool doesn't have AMS, chainfire is almost a non stop stream. You can chew up back armor like no one's business.

I'm loving this little thing. You are the light that even other lights find annoying to deal with.

Okay - I haven't had a chance to pilot my Locusts yet (grinding BLGs right now): do they REALLY move at 170kph, or are they still subject to the same 151kph cap?

[mark v92]

Bront, on 17 October 2013 - 07:40 AM, said:

Why not replace the 4SRM2s with 2 SRM4s?

Also, I'd drop a ton of ammo for an ML, but that's otherwise what I plan on doing.

because they both shoot 8 missles at a time but 4 srm2 reload 0,75 sec faster.

indeed drop a ton of ammo for a ML or a ton of ammo and a ton of armor for a MPL wich is better for hit n run

Edited by mark v92, 17 October 2013 - 07:47 AM.

[Bront]

mark v92, on 17 October 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

because they both shoot 8 missles at a time but 4 srm2 reload 0,75 sec faster.

indeed drop a ton of ammo for a ML or a ton of ammo and a ton of armor for a MPL wich is better for hit n run

But they also in theory heat up faster. Curious if the spread is any different.

[mark v92]

Bront, on 17 October 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

But they also in theory heat up faster. Curious if the spread is any different.

yh 8 heat instaid of 6 but strap some DHS on and you dont have to worry about anything.

i have no idea about the spread. should try it out some time. tho i dont think its such a bad thing if the spread is a little more since you are running 150+ kph. might make you hit more

[MungFuSensei]

The spread isn't bad at all. Comparable to that of a single srm6.

[Novakaine]

Surprisingly the 3S make a highly effective LRM boat.
Flank behind and launch, pop a few then reposition.
Amazingly enough I got 2 kills with this in a match.

[DONTOR]

drop a ton of ammo add small laser and .5 tons armor.

[Buckminster]

Dawnstealer, on 17 October 2013 - 07:45 AM, said:

Okay - I haven't had a chance to pilot my Locusts yet (grinding BLGs right now): do they REALLY move at 170kph, or are they still subject to the same 151kph cap?

I don't have speed tweak yet, but I top out at 153.9 with an XL190. From what I understand, the 151 cap is no more.

[Dawnstealer]

Buckminster, on 17 October 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

I don't have speed tweak yet, but I top out at 153.9 with an XL190. From what I understand, the 151 cap is no more.

cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[-Muta-]

This is the locust nightmare!

Just like the name says... Designed for those times in tourmaline where another light is attempting to cap your base.

Not only is the fastest mech available as of now, but also comes with BAP in case of ecm mechs.

The x2 SLas provides +1 dmg and faster fire than the MLas... Anyways you need to be close to use SSRMs

Edited by Mutaroc, 17 October 2013 - 09:13 AM.