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[MischiefSC]

YCSLiesmith, on 10 February 2015 - 11:22 AM, said:

it points to a general trend of davions whining about 'why can't you attack THE CLANS, boo hoo why are people bullying us, we had a ceasefire' that has certainly not stopped with the introduction of this (stupid, nonsensical) star league

What's funny is that people from literally every faction are here pointing and laughing at how totally out of the loop and irrelevant your comments are.

here is my comment to you, my personal opinion as a Davion pilot -

Keep coming. Drop on the Davion border all you want every single day. Without question you have nothing of value to offer the nSL regardless of skill. You lack the conviction, the interest and the focus to be part of something bigger than yourself. Do us all a favor and avoid it completely. Pretend it doesn't exist. It's a big idea trying to do big things and that takes big people.

That's not you. nSL isn't about you or for you. We'll fight you, and everyone else who comes knocking, as best as we are able in Davion. Not only will we do that but when we are done and the borders are secure we'll do what we promised to do - go drop on the Clan border with the nSL. Kurita, Steiner, FRR, doesn't matter.

Fortunately you are no HK. There are some of the most hardened Clan-fighting units around in HK and we have sincere belief that they'll be happy to work with everyone else to leverage their skills to the best advantage of HK and the rest of the IS. They are the people who took HK from taking a daily beatdown worse than the FRR and built one of the best coordinated factions out of it. That is who the nSL is pointed at.

Ad hominem all day long. I would say strawman but a strawman argument is intentional; it implies that someone actually understands what the point and the debate is about and creates a fake argument to attack because he has no real response to the actual point.

You just don't seem to get it, at all. That's okay. You don't need to. Nobody needs you to get it. You do you.

We're doing the nSL.

[YCSLiesmith]

MischiefSC, on 10 February 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

You lack the conviction, the interest and the focus to be part of something bigger than yourself.

Ha ha ha oh my God. If you think that a fictional, unenforceable cross-faction pickup league for fighting clanners is 'something bigger than yourself' then I'm honestly sorry for you.

[Harathan]

YCSLiesmith, on 10 February 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

Ha ha ha oh my God. If you think that a fictional, unenforceable cross-faction pickup league for fighting clanners is 'something bigger than yourself' then I'm honestly sorry for you.

If you think dozens of people from dozens of units across multiple factions deciding to work together towards a common goal in an effort to bring fun and direction to the game, isn't bigger than you on your own spouting off on an internet forum, then we're all honestly sorry for you.

[YCSLiesmith]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 11:59 AM, said:

If you think dozens of people from dozens of units across multiple factions deciding to work together towards a common goal in an effort to bring fun and direction to the game, isn't bigger than you on your own spouting off on an internet forum, then we're all honestly sorry for you.

the game has both fun and direction so yeah. I do think that my own life, as a human being with thoughts and interests and a whole universe of unique experiences is a bit bigger and more important than your fantasy star league that exists to 'bring fun' to a game.

Edited by YCSLiesmith, 10 February 2015 - 12:03 PM.

[Harathan]

YCSLiesmith, on 10 February 2015 - 12:02 PM, said:

the game has both fun and direction so yeah. I do think that my own life, as a human being with thoughts and interests and a whole universe of unique experiences is a bit bigger and more important than your fantasy star league that exists to 'bring fun' to a game.

So you're more important than everyone else, as opposed to an equal member of the MWO community. Got it.

The only person comparing you "as a human being with thoughts and interests and a whole universe of unique experiences" against a bunch of people trying to achieve something in a video game is you, and surprise surprise it's not really a valid comparison.

A more accurate comparison would be you "as a player spouting on an internet forum" against "dozens of people from dozens of units across multiple factions deciding to work together towards a common goal in an effort to bring fun and direction to the game".

If you still think that gives you some imaginary moral high ground, give yourself a pat on the back I guess. Nobody else is going to bother.

Edited by Harathan, 10 February 2015 - 12:24 PM.

[YCSLiesmith]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

So you're more important than everyone else, as opposed to an equal member of the MWO community. Got it.

I'm certainly more important than the star league. Hopefully you'll agree that every single person on earth is more important than the star league! because, get this, the star league is a fictional body with no real responsibilities or powers, set in a fictional world where giant (fictional) robots battle on distant planets (also fictional). Meanwhile I'm a person, much like yourself, endowed with an immortal soul by my creator. it's not even a contest.

[Valar13]

YCSLiesmith, on 10 February 2015 - 10:03 AM, said:

Well I could, except that Valar13 is a coward who deletes his threads

I deleted my threads when I was considering changing factions the first time. Was going to put in for a name change to avoid griefing if it happened on bad terms.

The beginning of the Star League was roughly 3 weeks AFTER that occurred, and has zero to do with my complaints, which you and certain other reading-impaired people in Kurita have apparently still not seen, even though they've been posted in various topics over and over since I left Davion.

Edited by Valar13, 10 February 2015 - 12:20 PM.

[HARDKOR]

This popcorn still tastes great. Just the right combo of salt and cheese.

The Star League is truly a bridge that has room to shelter many.

Edited by HARDKOR, 10 February 2015 - 12:22 PM.

[Valar13]

YCSLiesmith, on 10 February 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

I'm a person.

You sure? I got the impression you were just a walking, talking a**hole.

Edit to previous post: reading impaired and entirely colorblind to irony or sarcasm.

Edited by Valar13, 10 February 2015 - 12:23 PM.

[Tasker]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

So you're more important than everyone else, as opposed to an equal member of the MWO community. Got it.

The life of one brave Kuritan warrior far more valuable than the life of 62 million Fed Rats. Ha ha.

[YCSLiesmith]

Valar13, on 10 February 2015 - 12:22 PM, said:

You sure? I got the impression you were just a walking, talking a**hole.

Valar you are a coward who represents everything i'm complaining about. I'd appreciate if you not address me or quote my posts in the future.

[HARDKOR]

In before the previous post gets quoted.

[Harathan]

YCSLiesmith, on 10 February 2015 - 12:18 PM, said:

I'm certainly more important than the star league. Hopefully you'll agree that every single person on earth is more important than the star league! because, get this, the star league is a fictional body with no real responsibilities or powers, set in a fictional world where giant (fictional) robots battle on distant planets (also fictional). Meanwhile I'm a person, much like yourself, endowed with an immortal soul by my creator. it's not even a contest.

Again, nobody was comparing you as a person against the Star League, except you.

The comparison was you as a troll. Not exactly the same contest.

[Valar13]

YCSLiesmith, on 10 February 2015 - 12:25 PM, said:

Valar you are a coward who represents everything i'm complaining about. I'd appreciate if you not address me or quote my posts in the future.

Ok. Am I doing it right, Mr. Madsmith?

[Samurai Hanse Davion]

MischiefSC, on 10 February 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

What's funny is that people from literally every faction are here pointing and laughing at how totally out of the loop and irrelevant your comments are.

here is my comment to you, my personal opinion as a Davion pilot -

Keep coming. Drop on the Davion border all you want every single day. Without question you have nothing of value to offer the nSL regardless of skill. You lack the conviction, the interest and the focus to be part of something bigger than yourself. Do us all a favor and avoid it completely. Pretend it doesn't exist. It's a big idea trying to do big things and that takes big people.

That's not you. nSL isn't about you or for you. We'll fight you, and everyone else who comes knocking, as best as we are able in Davion. Not only will we do that but when we are done and the borders are secure we'll do what we promised to do - go drop on the Clan border with the nSL. Kurita, Steiner, FRR, doesn't matter.

Fortunately you are no HK. There are some of the most hardened Clan-fighting units around in HK and we have sincere belief that they'll be happy to work with everyone else to leverage their skills to the best advantage of HK and the rest of the IS. They are the people who took HK from taking a daily beatdown worse than the FRR and built one of the best coordinated factions out of it. That is who the nSL is pointed at.

Ad hominem all day long. I would say strawman but a strawman argument is intentional; it implies that someone actually understands what the point and the debate is about and creates a fake argument to attack because he has no real response to the actual point.

You just don't seem to get it, at all. That's okay. You don't need to. Nobody needs you to get it. You do you.

We're doing the nSL.

Word?

[Harathan]

Tasker, on 10 February 2015 - 12:25 PM, said:

The life of one brave Kuritan warrior far more valuable than the life of 62 million Fed Rats. Ha ha.

I'd not bring RP smacktalk into this bud. Associating your well intentioned RP digs with his flat out vitriol won't end well.

Edited by Harathan, 10 February 2015 - 12:30 PM.

[Valar13]

I don't always quote people, but when I do it's going to be Liesmith from now on.

Stay salty, my friend.

[Tasker]

Liao mechwarriors! Marik mechwarriors! The dragon is calling you; that sacred and ancient symbol of victory, since the beginning of time!

The Merc is using the Star League as leverage against you.

And you are left there helpless.

Well, what are you going to do about it, Capellan? Just sit there? Of course not!

You are going to join with us. The members of the Kapteyn Concord. An alliance of decent, law abiding mechwarriors. Just like you!

Edited by Tasker, 10 February 2015 - 12:32 PM.

[YCSLiesmith]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 12:28 PM, said:

Again, nobody was comparing you as a person against the Star League, except you.

The comparison was you as a troll. Not exactly the same contest.

Mischief said that i was unable to devote myself to something 'bigger than myself' which I objected to on the grounds that the Star League is considerably less important than any human being who has ever lived. Not so much because i'm important as because the star league is a contemptibly small endeavor. I was surprised that you struggled to follow my argument to be honest. I should probably have just made a fat joke.

[Valar13]

Tasker, on 10 February 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

Liao mechwarriors! Marik mechwarriors! The dragon is calling you; that sacred and ancient symbol of victory, since the beginning of time!

The Merc is using the Star League as leverage against you.

And you are left there helpless.

Well, what are you going to do about it, Capellan? Just sit there? Of course not!

You are going to join with us. The members of the Kapteyn Concord. An alliance of decent, law abiding mechwarriors. Just like you!

The rest of the Kapteyn Accord is already in the Star League.