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[Samurai Hanse Davion]

There Is Only One Code The Samurai Follows: Bushido.

[pwnface]

Roleplay aside, House Kurita has not agreed to be a part of the new star league yet.

[Harathan]

Tasker, on 10 February 2015 - 02:45 PM, said:

Ha ha ha. Refusing to become lapdog of Fed Rat now reason to be labeled troll. Funny.

*sigh*

Star League is a Marik idea, not a Davion one. Davion are supporting it, but have not complained about anyone not doing so.

Choosing not to support it is entirely valid, and indeed not a reason to be labelled troll.

Being a troll is a reason to be labelled a troll.

[Richter Kerensky]

How Kurita supposed to respond to Star League nonsense when Kurita accused of dishonoring treaty it has not even signed? Almost like Star League underhanded attempt by Fed Rats to pretend to be ally against clans while stabbing everyone in back, again, except this time can accuse Houses of violating treaty when we defend own worlds from Clan Davion treachery.

[Vassago Rain]

Space UN is a noble idea, but like the real world UN, it'll only exist to stall out righteous retribution, and sanction turret actions on smaller houses.

In two weeks, fedrat scum and blue fists will regain their level 90 mercs, at which point space UN will be magically dissolved, and many honorable drac samurai will be put to the merc sword for daring to reclaim their home planets.



We must strike now, not worry about unity. Davion is space equivalent to Russian federation. It's not a matter of if they'll backstab mortal kombat dragon and green sword, but when.

No honor can be gained from politics. One gains honor, respect, and powerlevels their faction powerpoints on the battlefield. An attack on the golden zerg is an attack for peace, prosperity, and freedom. Purple bird, green sword, and mortal kombat dragon have a deep alliance forged in the hot blood of our people, and our enemies. No space UN is required to maintain this - it is enough that you row row, fight da powah, touch the untouchable, and break the unbreakable.



Trust in space UN will lead to much dishonor, much loss of home planets, and many sudokus once the mercs return in 12 days. Golden zerg in davion is also useless as an ally, as they cannot be trusted, and incompetent on the battlefield. Attacks on them will force out the weak elements, leaving a strong core.

[CyclonerM]

Grynos, on 10 February 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

I will ask this one question for everyone to think about.... Which is more important to the overall success of CW, the lore or the gamemode ?

For me? Lore, because the gamemode should be based ON the lore. Otherwise, it does not feel like Battletech. Of course, for a LOT of reasons, we can neither replicate the canon events (not that i want to, i am fine with players creating an alternate course of the invasion) nor fully replicate the structure of canon units, etc. but this is not an excuse for not trying

Ok, i know this post is a bait for trolls, i apologize..

Edited by CyclonerM, 10 February 2015 - 03:04 PM.

[Harathan]

pwnface, on 10 February 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:

Roleplay aside, House Kurita has not agreed to be a part of the new star league yet.

Which is entirely a valid choice and, as far as I can see in this thread, nobody has said otherwise.

Richter B., on 10 February 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

How Kurita supposed to respond to Star League nonsense when Kurita accused of dishonoring treaty it has not even signed?

Nobody has accused Kurita of that. Making stuff up doesn't make it true.

Richter B., on 10 February 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

Almost like Star League underhanded attempt by Fed Rats to pretend to be ally against clans while stabbing everyone in back, again, except this time can accuse Houses of violating treaty when we defend own worlds from Clan Davion treachery.

Except, for the third time, Star League was a Marik idea not a Davion one. Implying that Marik are somehow Davion puppets is laughable, and not once in recorded CW history have the majority of organised Davion units broken a treaty that was entered into.

RP smacktalk is great. Trolling isn't. You may not be walking the side of this line you think you are.

[pwnface]

Does Vassago even play this game or just troll the forums 24/7?

[Richter Kerensky]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

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I see fedcom use "quote several parts of post" technique but fail to read own quoted post accusing Kurita of dishonoring treaty it not even sign. Marik come up with new star league idea but fedcoms latch on to it in order to stab enemies in back, nothing more. "You may not be walking the side of this line you think you are?" English not first language of glorious House Kuritan but this make no sense at all. Quality of fedcom public schools atrocious.

[Harathan]

Richter B., on 10 February 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:

I see fedcom use "quote several parts of post" technique but fail to read own quoted post accusing Kurita of dishonoring treaty it not even sign.

Richter B., on 10 February 2015 - 03:09 PM, said:

"You may not be walking the side of this line you think you are?" English not first language of glorious House Kuritan but this make no sense at all. Quality of fedcom public schools atrocious.

I'm not sure you realise how close you're verging to racism with some of this crap.
If you are able to quote any post where I've ever said that, I'll be genuinely impressed. Mainly because I've never said that, so good luck

[Vassago Rain]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 03:11 PM, said:

I'm not sure you realise how close you're verging to racism with some of this crap.
If you are able to quote any post where I've ever said that, I'll be genuinely impressed. Mainly because I've never said that, so good luck

>owned in RP.
>owned for real.
>by guys who type in engrish and make stereotypical taunts.
>use racism card.
>3050.

I seriously hope you freebirths don't do this.

[Samurai Hanse Davion]

Remember Kentares IV? In Few Days, Memory Will Be Refreshed. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

[Harathan]

Vassago Rain, on 10 February 2015 - 03:18 PM, said:

>owned in RP.
>owned for real.
>by guys who type in engrish and make stereotypical taunts.
>use racism card.
>3050.

I seriously hope you freebirths don't do this.

Yeah... hiding behind the "it's only RP!!!!!1111one" card? Not really doing the trick.

[Samurai Hanse Davion]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

Yeah... hiding behind the "it's only RP!!!!!1111one" card? Not really doing the trick.

Kurita Too Honorable For Trickery, Unlike Davion Rats Who Use Marik Spies To Create False Star League Treaty.

[Chef Kerensky]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 03:04 PM, said:

Nobody has accused Kurita of that. Making stuff up doesn't make it true.

rjBass did exactly this on the very last page. Turn back and look at it.

[Harathan]

Samurai Hanse Davion, on 10 February 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

Kurita Too Honorable For Trickery, Unlike Davion Rats Who Use Marik Spies To Create False Star League Treaty.

See this? This is great. Lite on the Engrish, blatant hyperbole, wide scope, narrow point. 10/10.

I'd genuinely like to hear the non-RP opinions of those posting above; as I said, some RP smacktalk done well is great, but I'd like to hear from the person rather than the character.

ChefGerstmann, on 10 February 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

rjBass did exactly this on the very last page. Turn back and look at it.

He said you don't care about treaties, he didn't say you'd broken one. Reading comprehension fail.

Edited by Harathan, 10 February 2015 - 03:37 PM.

[Scoops Kerensky]

I don't see engrish. They're typing to imply a certain accent, but there's no subtle or overt racism to it. While I agree they could be more civil about their disagreement if they wanted, dissent isn't trolling.

[Grynos]

CyclonerM, on 10 February 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

For me? Lore, because the gamemode should be based ON the lore. Otherwise, it does not feel like Battletech. Of course, for a LOT of reasons, we can neither replicate the canon events (not that i want to, i am fine with players creating an alternate course of the invasion) nor fully replicate the structure of canon units, etc. but this is not an excuse for not trying

Ok, i know this post is a bait for trolls, i apologize..

Actually I am glad to see you respond, and it isn't about trolling although people might see it differently. The reason I asked the question is tons of MMORPGs have lore, but it is only one element of a game. The challenge for developers is to make a MMORPG that is not only enjoyable for those that like the lore , but also for those like myself who have no clue about the lore. If PGI wants to increase its player base , it is not going to be by the lore of BattleTech ( they already have most of them already )but rather exciting and fun gameplay modes for people who care little of the lore.

[Klappspaten]

Harathan, on 10 February 2015 - 02:44 PM, said:

Marik decided to form the second Star League. Some positive noises from most Factions. Meeting happened, MercStar tried to attend but were denied entry because people thought they were just in it for the tags/lulz/clans. 20 pages of drama as various MercStar members argued with various Star League members about how that happened, who really speaks for MercStar and what they stand for. MercStar leaders reign in trolls and insist MS is for fun, not tags. Roadbeer requests Marik House unit be allowed to tag a planet for RP purposes. MS refuses to allow it, because they want the tag. Drama kicks off again as MercStar trolls return and Kurita trolls decide to join in as well.

In short: blah blah blah nag nag nag female dog female dog female dog

[Klappspaten]

Grynos, on 10 February 2015 - 02:31 PM, said:

Merc units are the deciding factor in map movements for CW. Not trying to be mean, but it is a fact.. While loyalists might say that is not so, the proof is there. For example, when CW began , there were a lot of Merc Units in Davion. Davion had a huge population due to that, hence it waged war on Liao, Marik, and Kurita. Likewise some of the clans had Merc units with them, thus gaining a population advantage over some of the Northern IS houses. Marik had a couple, from the start like BWC, as well as other factions/clans . As Merc units decided to work for other factions/clans, the tide shifted. The Merc units ultimately decide the outcome when it comes to the gathering of planets for a faction/clan....

That is not saying that loyalists are not trying, or doing a good job. It is a purely population standpoint, and if CW has shown us anything, it is about populations. Merc units are the majority of population in CW.

I agree, thats the reason there have been quite some Mercs present at the conference. Also we voted by majority to treat the Mercs as a de facto faction within the nSL.
Mercs will influence the decisions of the Star League council. A Merc council of some sort is being formed by the Merc units that have been present and they surely can be a political force in the nSL if they want to.
If they participate, how they participate and how they are going to regulate their participation is entirely up to them, just with every other faction.

Grynos, on 10 February 2015 - 03:53 PM, said:

Actually I am glad to see you respond, and it isn't about trolling although people might see it differently. The reason I asked the question is tons of MMORPGs have lore, but it is only one element of a game. The challenge for developers is to make a MMORPG that is not only enjoyable for those that like the lore , but also for those like myself who have no clue about the lore. If PGI wants to increase its player base , it is not going to be by the lore of BattleTech ( they already have most of them already )but rather exciting and fun gameplay modes for people who care little of the lore.

If you like Sci Fi books I would strongly recommend reading the Battletech books. Some of them are bad, as usual with those big series, but there also some really really good books in there.
Its of course not necessary to play MW:O, but it certainly gives it a lot more depth.

Edited by Klappspaten, 10 February 2015 - 04:12 PM.