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[Jonathan Paine]

Must have worked, we are making some headway

[Tordin]

Seems we are about to take back Nox and Carse, I had my last CW battle for today before finding the bunk. With mixed PUG/ 2- 5 mans on both sides.
It was an awesome fight and we won!
Now keep it up, those worlds must be retaken and beware of those pesky ghost drops just as we THINK we have taken them before cease fire.

[Divine Retribution]

Ramsau liberated!
Nox liberated!

What a world of difference adequate manpower makes!

[Jonathan Paine]

Indeed. Clan unit MS Puppies were complaining that gb contracted merc were only willing to lend them 3 full 12 man teams to help the Puppies keep the lawns they stole.

[Mindwyrm]

Alex Reed, on 14 February 2015 - 02:08 PM, said:

Mardi Gras break, Sandersson? I have a week off because of it.

The Seraphim [SRPH] have accepted a contract with the FRR for the next two weeks and looking for targets. If someone could tell us which direction they would like us to point our Overlords, I'd be much obliged.

UMMMM..... your guys might want to avoid the FRR Hub, language tends to be a bit... umm... "intense" at times. Well, actually, a lot of the time. Especially when the meads flowing freely, which is most of the time.

[Alex Reed]

Mindwyrm, on 16 February 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

UMMMM..... your guys might want to avoid the FRR Hub, language tends to be a bit... umm... "intense" at times. Well, actually, a lot of the time. Especially when the meads flowing freely, which is most of the time.

Mindwyrm,

What, in your opinion, is the best way to coordinate with FRR leadership? Is there a central website to go to so that we can find out what the daily strategy is?

When I look at that CW map, I feel like an over-caffeinated squirrel in a room full of revolving mirrors.

Alex...

[Sandersson Jankins]

Mindwyrm, on 16 February 2015 - 04:46 AM, said:

UMMMM..... your guys might want to avoid the FRR Hub, language tends to be a bit... umm... "intense" at times. Well, actually, a lot of the time. Especially when the meads flowing freely, which is most of the time.

We're a bunch of stoners and occasional drunks, when you get right down to it. We'll be comfortable wherever we go, it i just most likely we'll be stoned/drunk in our own TS, heh.

[Joe Decker]

My Idea would be to push deep into Jade Falcon Space - yet I also noticed Rasalhague hasn't been attacking Jade Falcon for quite a while - is there a Ceasefire in Place ? Otherwise it would be wise to push on Jade Falcon only. Not sure if you can hold these Planets in that Location right now. Even if you make Gains now - when the Mercs are gone you will have overwhelming Numbers of Enemies again...

Pushing into Jade Falcon Space and leaving those other Planets behind might help you to cut off 2 or 3 Clan Attack Lanes.

Edited by Joe Decker, 16 February 2015 - 06:45 AM.

[Klappspaten]

Joe Decker, on 16 February 2015 - 06:44 AM, said:

My Idea would be to push deep into Jade Falcon Space - yet I also noticed Rasalhague hasn't been attacking Jade Falcon for quite a while - is there a Ceasefire in Place ? Otherwise it would be wise to push on Jade Falcon only. Not sure if you can hold these Planets in that Location right now. Even if you make Gains now - when the Mercs are gone you will have overwhelming Numbers of Enemies again...

Pushing into Jade Falcon Space and leaving those other Planets behind might help you to cut off 2 or 3 Clan Attack Lanes.

There is certainly no ceasefire with any clan in place. But Jade Falcon has not been at the top of our priority list and probably won't be that soon.
As it looks right now we have our hands full "merely" fighting CGB, CW, and CSJ. The Jade Falcons haven't started any large operation against us until now and I see no benefit in taking a front that is relatively calm at the moment and turning it in what the other fronts are right now.
Remember we have contact with all 4 Clans at the moment and if one of them does not see us as their primary target we should keep it that way.

Also conquering former Steiner worlds, especially Tamar, would give the Steiners a bunch of reasons to go after us again. We had our fights with them, our attack on Steiner probably saved the FRR enclave in the south, but we are also happy that we don't have an issue with the Steiners right now.
Our top priorities have to be CW and CGB.

Edited by Klappspaten, 16 February 2015 - 07:30 AM.

[Klappspaten]

Alex Reed, on 16 February 2015 - 05:12 AM, said:

Mindwyrm,

What, in your opinion, is the best way to coordinate with FRR leadership? Is there a central website to go to so that we can find out what the daily strategy is?

When I look at that CW map, I feel like an over-caffeinated squirrel in a room full of revolving mirrors.

Alex...

For coordination you should visit the FRR hub, however, as before stated, you should be aware that there is a lot of trashtalk and cursing going on. I know you guys are a profanity free unit, but we are kind of a profanity fueled faction.
So if you visit the FRR hub be aware that we are actually quite nice people, and please don't take it personal.

frrhub.tk:9725
pw: Dragon

We damn sure are happy that you guys are here to fight at our sides.

Edited by Klappspaten, 16 February 2015 - 07:35 AM.

[Joe Decker]

You Guys should work together with Steiner and not against them - It can only be good for Steiner if Rasalhague attacks Jade Falcon. Of Course this Plan would work better if Steiner and Rasalhague work together this Time.

At the Moment Rasalhague is being hit by 3 Attackers while a 4th potential Attacker is ready to strike. You are like a Boxer in the Corner of a Ring. You need to get out of that Corner and push in some Direction. Pushing in the middle of the Clans (Wolf/Ghost Bear) will help you nothing as you will still end up with multiple Attackers on you from multiple Directions.

If you push into Falcon Territory and sacrifice your actual Planets, the Clans would get in each others Way and you got only one or maximum 2 (with Clan Wolf) Enemies/Attack Lanes on you in the End. If you stay where you are - you got 3 Attackers on you and if Jade Falcon decides to attack you at some Point, you would have 4 on you...

Game over.

If you coordinate your Attack on Jade Falcon with Steiner you can beat them easily and deny the other Clans Attack Lanes on you.

Furthermore if you get out of the Way of the majority of Clans they will hit other IS Factions and so these IS Factions will also be enabled to actively fighting them at some Point so you will get the Benefit of the IS House Units who cannot really fight Clans at the Moment.

Defending is loosing in CW as it actually is.

If you cannot bring the Numbers to stop them - get out of the Way and focus your Forces in one Attack Option that will give you a better Position in the End.

As you got the Mercs with you at the Moment you can execute this. Otherwise you will be in the same bad Situation as before, when the Mercs leave you again.

Think about it.

Edited by Joe Decker, 16 February 2015 - 02:45 PM.

[Klappspaten]

I agree with most of what you say. But the issue here is Steiner.

Steiner is barely organized. The german units talk to each other, buts thats basically it. We are trying to get some diplomatic relations with them, but right now Steiner is neither our friend nor our enemy. And before we have a reliable commitment from them to fully support our actions we can not rely on them.
As I see it Steiner is a possible threat that at the moment shares some of our goals. And before that changes, I am strongly against attacking Clan Jade Falcon if not entirely necessary.

However, feel free to go to the FRR hub and talk to other Allthing council members about this. If the Allthing would come to the decision to pursue your plans, my unit will fully support it.

frrhub.tk:9725
pw: Dragon

Edited by Klappspaten, 16 February 2015 - 10:02 AM.

[Joe Decker]

Yep I realized a while ago that Steiner and Rasalhague got their Issues with each other which is very counterproductive right now. I bet if Steiner and Rasalhague could reach some Agreement your Options and Situation would improve significant.

To be honest I am kinda sad that the german Units are not having a bigger Impact on CW, now that there is also a European Ceasefire Timezone in Place.

I will see if I can make Contact to the FRR Hub tonight. Thanks for the Info.

Would be good to have some long-term Plan for Rasalhague.

[Klappspaten]

We tried negotiating an NAP with Steiner three times. It was always Steiner that decided against it, even if it has been them that started the talks. Instead they opted for that ceasefire with Clan Wolf, which luckily wasn't supported by all the Steiner units.

Our attack on Steiner the week before last was an act of desperation, the planets we gained there probably have saved our little enclave. Most of the planets the Clans have taken from us recently are former Steiner worlds.

Right now we have declared a ceasefire with Steiner, which they haven't answered yet. But they haven't attacked us since and seem contempt in focusing on the Clans, which is good. We hope that better relations will come out of this, but until then I think we should handle Steiner with care. Really don't need a 5th enemy right now.

Edited by Klappspaten, 16 February 2015 - 10:19 AM.

[Joe Decker]

Understood.

[Mindwyrm]

Alex Reed, on 16 February 2015 - 05:12 AM, said:

Mindwyrm,

What, in your opinion, is the best way to coordinate with FRR leadership? Is there a central website to go to so that we can find out what the daily strategy is?

When I look at that CW map, I feel like an over-caffeinated squirrel in a room full of revolving mirrors.

Alex...

The FRR Hub is where the FRR co-ordinates. In your position I advise just being aware of what goes on there, and maybe just send one guy over there to speak for all of you and take direction from the FRR leaders.

[Jarl Dane]

Mindwyrm, on 16 February 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:

The FRR Hub is where the FRR co-ordinates. In your position I advise just being aware of what goes on there, and maybe just send one guy over there to speak for all of you and take direction from the FRR leaders.

Or realize that words are just sounds and devoid of any meaning or power in of themselves. That saying "Fudge" or "Shoot" instead of similar words is not only hypocritical, but absurd. That wonderful people swear and that terrible people abstain from cursing.

The FRR HUB is where all the FRR should be. I am sure some people there will do their best to respect your sensibilities, do what you can to make them aware of your special needs, and your exposure to the profane will likely be minimized. Drunk, Stoned Space Vikings might be sloppy or careless but the majority of them won't be cruel or offensive on purpose.

[DaemonWulfe]

The Seraphim has landed in FRR space? Right on! Here's an idea in regard to the FRR Hub, the language can be terse, but one only needs to pop in momentarily to coordinate attacks. Aside from that, there's no issue on my side if you guys prefer using your own coms. If you happen to group up with a mixed 12 man, our tactics are fairly easy to do with or without voice coms.

It's an honor to have the Seraphim among us! There'll be no shortage of fights and c-bills to be made. Enjoy your time here with us!

[Joe Decker]

Just as a Clarification - if you Guys feel that you cannot play the Game without cursing - then do so. We think it is not needed and just makes People feel bad.

We also feel like we want everyone in this Game to enjoy the Game and so we don't curse or use Profanity. For us this is not Cursewarrior online

It is also a Sign of our actual "Zeitgeist" where everyone thinks it is kinda cool to act that Way. We don't understand what the Benefit of such Behaviour is - and we are united in this Point. Some of us are old Men ...

We are not hating People that curse or use Profanity and after Years in MWO we also learned to ignore such Behaviour from other Units/Players , yet this is an internal Rule that we will not speak with each other like that, inside or outside our Guild. We are all kinda the same BT Nerds - just with slight Differences.

I just type this here as often the Question comes up what our Reason is to act like that.

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And now to the important Point : We are excited to join Rasalhague in their Struggle against the Clans. Maybe we can help a little bit that CW will become more Fun for the Players of your Faction again

We want to see a strong Rasalhague !

Some of us might want to join your TS for Drop Coordination here and there and therefore know that they cannot expect Rasalhague Space Vikings to behave different than normally

So don't worry - we are fine.

Now on to the Clan Hunt

Edited by Joe Decker, 16 February 2015 - 03:12 PM.

[DaemonWulfe]

Awesome! By the way, you should have one of your representatives stop by the Allting website and introduce the Seraphim:

http://spc.menschel....9736e0e6e9ce1c4