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[Araevin Teshurr]

Hi There,

It's silly to have no house pugs dropping on Community Warfare maps vs the clans.
A mech pilot would not do that, only combined house units should be allowed to fight the community warfare map. Solo and non house units are just feeding the opposing side.

Regards!

[PanzerSmurf]

Why ? because some people can't do the effort when they enter into CW to work together ?

I went into CW as a solo player and found my unit I play with now in CW, because I can communicate.

PuGs don't feed enemy teams, players who are unwilling to communicate and work as a team do and you can find those in plenty of units too.

[Lordred]

With no Pugs, CW will die.

[Firewuff]

[Redacted]. Pugs need to take a contract to so a) you need to be aligned to a house and there would be very little of any game if you blocked people from a majormpart of it unless they are already well established.

Anyone else notice the increasingly high walls Some group players want to put up around what they consoder their playground? The ironic thing is a lot of them are not actuallu that good pilots. Its a much easier gsme whem you have voice and 11 other people supporting you.

[Araevin Teshurr]

[Redacted] IS planets are being lost, because Clans are constantly being fed disorganized pug groups and getting easy wins.

Firewuff, on 09 February 2015 - 01:46 AM, said:

[redacted] Pugs need to take a contract to so a) you need to be aligned to a house and there would be very little of any game if you blocked people from a majormpart of it unless they are already well established.

Anyone else notice the increasingly high walls Some group players want to put up around what they consoder their playground? The ironic thing is a lot of them are not actuallu that good pilots. Its a much easier gsme whem you have voice and 11 other people supporting you.

[WonderSparks]

Relaed, on 09 February 2015 - 12:36 PM, said:

[Redacted]. IS planets are being lost, because Clans are constantly being fed disorganized pug groups and getting easy wins.

A great way to support your point is ALWAYS to call people names.

[Jagg3d]

With Voip being added why is this still a factor in cw?

[Basskicker]

0/10... This is not the PUG bashing thread you are looking for.

[Firewuff]

VoIP is good but a practiced team will always be better and it assumes you have a headset etc (I dont at the moment.... bloody annoying).

And seriously, if there wern't pugs Clans would just constantly win by walkovers as there wouldn't even be any players to defend.

[Tarogato]

OP is exactly right, but taking pugs out of CW altogether is not the solution.

Simple matter is, most groups attack planets, and most pugs defend planets, so it starts coming down to whose units are better at pugstomping most of the time.

[Wildstreak]

Firewuff, on 09 February 2015 - 02:50 PM, said:

... and it assumes you have a headset etc ...

When VOIP comes, I plan to leave the headset unplugged for a bit to hear over speakers what PUG conversation is like.

[Tweaks]

Wildstreak, on 09 February 2015 - 05:15 PM, said:

When VOIP comes, I plan to leave the headset unplugged for a bit to hear over speakers what PUG conversation is like.

You could be surprised. We were all pugs at some point, and it doesn't mean that because you're a pug, that you lack any sort of comm discipline. I've seen units players be more chaotic and disorganized on comms than pugs. The thing is, it's not the fact you're a pug or a member of a unit that makes a difference, but rather your level of maturity.

There are and will always be douchebags and idiots on both sides.

[Burktross]

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[Wildstreak]

Tweaks, on 09 February 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

You could be surprised. We were all pugs at some point, and it doesn't mean that because you're a pug, that you lack any sort of comm discipline. I've seen units players be more chaotic and disorganized on comms than pugs. The thing is, it's not the fact you're a pug or a member of a unit that makes a difference, but rather your level of maturity.

There are and will always be douchebags and idiots on both sides.

Agree, I just want to hear for myself what happens.

[Tweaks]

Wildstreak, on 11 February 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

Agree, I just want to hear for myself what happens.

I think we'll have good matches where people use comms, and bad ones where nobody uses them at all or yell at each other.

[Grimolfr]

I'm in a merc group that recently branched out from Planetside 2 into a multi-gaming community. That being said, most of our new members are gained through PUGs we drop with in CW. It's important for recruitment, especially since there's different queues for groups and PUGs in pub matches.

[HammerMaster]

Wholeheartedly, absolutely, emphatically, No. We need those guys. Maybe a solo queue or a different match role but I run in a unit and I am telling you if you don't fix the pugs getting stomped or someway for them to CONTRIBUTE. You will lose them and MWO.

[Pz_DC]

So you say that over 60% of players should not be able to play CW?... Why not just force all solo players to uninstall the game, so it will be more "balanced" then..

[Empyrrean]

Why not just block people from dropping in CW until they complete their 25 cadet bonus matches?

[Nightmare1]

At this time, we still need the Pugs.

Just deal with it.