21 replies to this topic

[Gyrok]

You guys should be able to take your FRR world. Would recommend a focus there, they are very distracted at the moment.

[jeirhart]

CJF will attempt to assist Clan Wolf once we have secured our target. Due to time limitations and Steiner's attacks, we may be limited in our ability.

[Chemistrius]

In my experience, we don't often run into FRR players defending FRR planets (occasionally that isn't the case). I frequently see more Steiner, Liao and Marik units.

We are also, admittedly having some staffing issues tonight :/ Practices and team meetings etc.

[Mordin Ashe]

I would much rather see us taking all planets you took from us than push forward to FRR. We can do that anyday, but getting back what is ours should always be a priority.

[Gyrok]

Mordin Ashe, on 12 February 2015 - 09:13 PM, said:

I would much rather see us taking all planets you took from us than push forward to FRR. We can do that anyday, but getting back what is ours should always be a priority.

Be bitter, however, we were cut off by "allies"...so we had to get back to the IS.

As it stands, we had to take worlds to get our attack lanes back, thank those walk among you as often as not for doing this to you. Had you been able to control them and keep them in line, none of this would ever have had to happen.

jeirhart, on 12 February 2015 - 07:51 PM, said:

CJF will attempt to assist Clan Wolf once we have secured our target. Due to time limitations and Steiner's attacks, we may be limited in our ability.

Thank you trothkin, at least we were able to tank the main brunt of the assault so that the rest of the clans may make progress.

[Dawnstealer]

Back them into a corner, them vikings fight hard.

[Seth]

We got it back down pretty quickly at the end.

[Gyrok]

Seth, on 12 February 2015 - 09:38 PM, said:

We got it back down pretty quickly at the end.

Aff thank you for the assistance, it was well appreciated

[Wing 0]

FRR lost 2 planets for that. Good Call.

[Kain Demos]

Wing 0, on 12 February 2015 - 10:09 PM, said:

FRR lost 2 planets for that. Good Call.

Going to be tough for at least the next week so far at least two of the large merc groups have joined them.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

Fact is that all FRR planets CGB took had been directly taken over by CJF.
On the right side is CSJ cutting us off from IS worlds.
CW cutted us in half and calls us Dezgra when we defend cause all CGB planets should bee handed over to CW, cause they Need an IS lane.
CW sleept too Long. It is OK that they Need an IS attack lane. But CW is not alone. CGB gets cut off now. Nobody cares.

[Malcolm Vordermark]

Marc von der Heide, on 13 February 2015 - 01:50 AM, said:

Fact is that all FRR planets CGB took had been directly taken over by CJF.
On the right side is CSJ cutting us off from IS worlds.
CW cutted us in half and calls us Dezgra when we defend cause all CGB planets should bee handed over to CW, cause they Need an IS lane.
CW sleept too Long. It is OK that they Need an IS attack lane. But CW is not alone. CGB gets cut off now. Nobody cares.

I doubt anyone that matters called you dezgra. You're probably going to need to go through the CSJ worlds to get on track to Terra.

[xxREVxx]

Mordin Ashe, on 12 February 2015 - 09:13 PM, said:

I would much rather see us taking all planets you took from us than push forward to FRR. We can do that anyday, but getting back what is ours should always be a priority.

Gyrok, on 12 February 2015 - 09:23 PM, said:

Be bitter, however, we were cut off by "allies"...so we had to get back to the IS.

As it stands, we had to take worlds to get our attack lanes back, thank those walk among you as often as not for doing this to you. Had you been able to control them and keep them in line, none of this would ever have had to happen.



Thank you trothkin, at least we were able to tank the main brunt of the assault so that the rest of the clans may make progress.

Marc von der Heide, on 13 February 2015 - 01:50 AM, said:

Fact is that all FRR planets CGB took had been directly taken over by CJF.
On the right side is CSJ cutting us off from IS worlds.
CW cutted us in half and calls us Dezgra when we defend cause all CGB planets should bee handed over to CW, cause they Need an IS lane.
CW sleept too Long. It is OK that they Need an IS attack lane. But CW is not alone. CGB gets cut off now. Nobody cares.

Rouken, on 13 February 2015 - 02:47 AM, said:

I doubt anyone that matters called you dezgra. You're probably going to need to go through the CSJ worlds to get on track to Terra.

Gentlemen, this is how flame wars reignite!

Ignore everything that is not conducive to getting to Terra.

[Wingbreaker]

Marc von der Heide, on 13 February 2015 - 01:50 AM, said:

Fact is that all FRR planets CGB took had been directly taken over by CJF.

The only planets we have ever taken from CGB are Bessarabia and Hyperion. Further, because CGB did not have the warriors to spare for defenses of the Kobe island area, we ceased attacking out of deference to our trothkin to make good their fights against the Spheroids.

Montmarault was taken by Steiner, and we subsequently took it from Steiner.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

Check the planets again..there are a few more wich had been CGB b4 CJF took em.

You are right. We should Focus on Terra. Flame war doesn t help. It is a small attack area.

[jeirhart]

Marc von der Heide, on 13 February 2015 - 03:44 AM, said:

Check the planets again..there are a few more wich had been CGB b4 CJF took em.

You are right. We should Focus on Terra. Flame war doesn t help. It is a small attack area.

Some measure of clarification is required:

Planets CJF owns once owned by FRR:
Harvest - Taken from the FRR, was never own by CGB
Planting - Taken from the FRR, was never owned by CGB
Mozirje - Taken from the FRR, was never owned by CGB
Tamar - Taken from the FRR, was never owned by CGB
Weingarten - Taken from the FRR, was never owned by CGB
Volders - Taken from the FRR, was never owned by CGB
Bessarabia - A former FRR planet taken from CGB by CJF after CGB captured Tamar.
Biota - A former Steiner planet captured by FRR never owned by CGB.
Hyperion - A former FRR planet taken from CGB by CJF after CGB captured Tamar.
Thannhausen - Taken from the FRR, was never owned by CGB

Planets CJF owns once owned by Steiner and CGB:
Maetsu - A former Steiner planet taken from CGB by CJF after CGB captured Tamar.
Cusset - A former Steiner planet taken from CGB by CJF after CGB captured Tamar.
Montmarault - A former Steiner planet captured by CGB but retaken by Steiner before being captured by Falcons.
Benfled - A former Steiner planet captured by CGB but retaken by Steiner before being captured by Falcons.

Clan Jade Falcon has only ever taken four planets directly from CGB and of those four only two were ever FRR planets. All four were taken as a direct response to the capture of Tamar by CGB.

Edited by jeirhart, 13 February 2015 - 04:39 AM.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

K so as direct response for tasking 4 worlds of CGB we can take 16 from CJF? 1:4 Ratio is fine as you think? Bullshit.

[jeirhart]

Marc von der Heide, on 13 February 2015 - 05:19 AM, said:

K so as direct response for tasking 4 worlds of CGB we can take 16 from CJF? 1:4 Ratio is fine as you think? Bullshit.

If Clan Ghost Bear would seek to reclaim territory lost to Clan Jade Falcon after they attacked us without provocation and cut across our invasion corridor, I am sure some terms could be reached. I would simply prefer to keep that discussion from interfering with the clans' push towards Terra as a unified whole.

Edited by jeirhart, 13 February 2015 - 05:28 AM.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

K. But why pushing on? You may need a 5th or 6th planet as compensation for that merc attack. So in other words. Why trust you?
Why trust in that?

[jeirhart]

Marc von der Heide, on 13 February 2015 - 05:57 AM, said:

K. But why pushing on? You may need a 5th or 6th planet as compensation for that merc attack. So in other words. Why trust you?
Why trust in that?

Clan Jade Falcon made the conscious decision to stop taking planets from Clan Ghost Bear immediately after MS/CI and a part of CGB's loyal members left temporarily. The last planet taken from CGB by CJF was Cusset on February 5th. Since then, despite having a border with the CGB island in FRR space, we have not attempted to seize any additional planets

We do realize that it would be beneficial to our security to remove that island should a mercenary group ever use it to strike out against us again. While we do not necessarily like the CGB island in our invasion corridor, we do not wish to antagonize the Ghost Bears as we can simply go around the island and drive towards Terra through either Steiner or FRR space.

We have also recently reached out to leadership within CGBI and have thus far been successful at coordinating new strikes on the spheroids.

I would also like to clearly state that while I can not control the actions of any other unit in CJF or the pugs therein, I do hold sway over the choices JFP (as the largest CJF unit) makes. And I will state irrefutably that as long as CGB does not strike out at CJF again, we will not attack CGB and will actively call for other units in our clan to do the same.

And I do not lie.