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[LordKnightFandragon]

Black Arachne, on 13 February 2015 - 02:30 PM, said:

Awesome/Warhawk should be able to fire 3ERPPCs in two volleys before switching down to 2ERPPCs for cool down to avoid shutdown.

Or about 10-12 in chain fire.

[Jolly Llama]

lsp, on 13 February 2015 - 10:56 AM, said:

Now that the clan cry babies have gotten their way and the TDR-9S and Wolverine 6k are getting nerfed into uselessness and non existant, it's time for the clans turn.

When is the ridiculously over powered Stormcrow getting it's hitboxes nerfed? When are clan Xl engines getting nerfed? When is the Timbergod getting nerfed into the ground? You cry and cry until the only viable IS heavy is nerfed, I want to see the same thing happen to you. Oh, except you still have the Hellbringer and the Vulture, where as we have nothing that can compete in CW.

Quotes from Skye Rangers

"Until I see less than 7-9 Hellbringers/Timbys/Stromcrows on the average Clan team, then I see no issue with 7-9 9S's on the field at any given time.

The problem with the 9S: it's all alone on it's high pedestal. Everyone has one because it's so much more compatible with CW than any other IS mech. IMO there's only a few things to do: make more IS mechs compatible with vs-Clan CW. I think they should give several more IS laser mechs a serious buff combination of cooldown/range/heat-reduction. The 4N was a rough start. I'd also love to see them modify the 3crit=dead engine rule to make all XL's function the same, but fat chance on that.

Clan weaponry in CW is mostly laser vomit on medium and heavy mechs. That means infinite ammo at decent range, and also allows high alpha strikes for a given weight. What does IS have to compare besides the 9S? I don't count the Firestarter because I personally can take them down MUCH easier than a Hellbringer/Timby/Stromcrow. Most other mechs have quirks/loadouts that are less heat efficient, have less range, or much lower alphas than a c-ERML build for a similar weight"


"#1 Stormcrow - this mech has spectacular hitboxes that let it take more punishment than it reasonably should. It also has enough of a variety of hardpoints to let it do whatever you would like it to do and the speed is great for a medium.

#2 Timberwolf - a 75 ton mech that goes 89 kph, can amount a wide array of weaponry and potentially has JJ. It has good hitboxes and despite your statement otherwise the CT is not really that big. It has the maneuverability to spread damage and armament to dish it out.

#3 Hellbringer - A heavy with good hardpoints and ECM. Hitboxes are ok but nothing to write home about. Still ahead of the Dire in being OP but this is mostly because of the ECM.

Honorable mention - Mad dog - good at missle boating obviously but hit boxes leave side torsos vulnerable, good speed and fills a certain niche in competitive drops but not overtly more OP than the dire."

I totally agree. The forum whining in this game is insane. It has ruined every good mech or weapon combo that there is. I don't play CW very much because 1) it is a useless waste of time only to hang letters next to a dot on a crap map while waiting forever to play boring game modes and 2) anytime IS finds a way to beat clanners, said clanners cry about it.

PGI needs to find a mech to use a base. Then buff others so that they can compete. Who has run their Highlanders lately, or their Victors for that matter? They were mainstay line mechs just a few months ago. And the Ilya? Remember when that was the best hero in the game. Clans have spoiled the game in order to cater to those who wasted money on the prerelease packs. I know excellent pilots that refuse to get out of their Timberwolves and play something that takes tactical thinking, because the easily rack up kills and c-bills.

So the next time you want to whine about a mech beating you, clanners, try to remember what the inside of an IS cockpit looks like and when you did more than rush to the center of a map to vomit damage.

Edited by geodeath, 13 February 2015 - 03:45 PM.

[Yokaiko]

Metus regem, on 13 February 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:

There is a fine ballance point between ballanced, is over board. the 7.5 heat ERPPC's were on the over-board side. I mean the 9S made a better Awesome or Warhawk, than the Awesome or Warhawk for crying outloud! If you cannot see why they was wrong, I don't know how better to get through to you.

As for the Storm Crow, yes it does need to have it's hit boxes looked at (though mine come apart, like they are made of tissue paper...), As for the TImber Wolf, she needs a slight agility hit, say 5-10% reduction in twisting and turning speed.

As for the Clan XL engine, you do know that is the only engine that Clan mechs get right? You do know that they cannot change their engine sizes right? And before you say "make it work like IS XL engines!" You do know that would render all but the Storm Crow, Timber Wolf and Dire Wolf to the scrap bin right? (even those three would be in a really, really bad place if they did that.)

Why would a mech with a 375 XL Need an agilty nerf? Its not like its overboard with pod space (no dual guass/ super heavy loadouts).

....I've never even felt the mech was that good.

[Bulletsponge0]

Black Arachne, on 13 February 2015 - 01:37 PM, said:

Yeah sorry - it wasn't OK for the Thunderbolt to be the PPC God - that title should only belong to two mechs. The Awesome and the Warhawk.

don't forget the adder!!

[Metus regem]

Yokaiko, on 13 February 2015 - 05:04 PM, said:

Why would a mech with a 375 XL Need an agilty nerf? Its not like its overboard with pod space (no dual guass/ super heavy loadouts).

....I've never even felt the mech was that good.

Once mastered it is a little too mobile. Mobility should be the hallmark of the Summoner. And yes I hate the fact that we have Timber Wolf S pods....

Also on my list for agility adjustments are the king crab, it can twist twice as far, twice as fast as a Dire Wolf, with the same 300 series engine....

[Mister Blastman]

So much butthurt.

[Brimbooze]

Kristov Kerensky, on 13 February 2015 - 11:28 AM, said:

First clue that your IS Mech is OP and will be changed soon...

It can take down Clan Mechs of heavier tonnage and far better quality without trying.

Dropping for Kurita in CW, doing some IS vs IS battles. Go up against -MS- a LOT while PUGing it in CW, and guess what I saw constantly. First wave, 12 Tbolt 9Ss coming at us..and..we're done. IF they actually did do a 2nd wave, hey, look, they mixed it up! 12 Tbolt 9Ss! Seriously, you don't get that something THAT OP is going to be changed? Especially when you look at the quirks it had and the weapons that it comes with stock..what relation was there? Tbolt isn't a specialized boating Mech, it's a jack of all trades Mechs, with a mix of weapon types for all ranges and situations.

Seriously, the quirks need to be redone from the ground up in most cases, with the stock loadout of the variants used to base those quirks on, NOT on what people like to use on the Mechs.

How is this different then the clans bringing a wave of Hellbringers/Timbers/Storm Crows?

[Mystere]

Mister Blastman, on 13 February 2015 - 07:34 PM, said:

So much butthurt.

A large percentage of forum threads start precisely because someone got butthurt.

[Araevin Teshurr]

Seeing nothing but Timberwolves and crows on teams is getting old, you are right. These mechs are in demand? They should cost twice as much, and everyone should be forced to rebuy them.

[nehebkau]

shad0w4life, on 13 February 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

I'm going to point out the hypocrasy of you complaining about hitboxes, the Stormcrow is nowhere near as bad as the Firestarter&Spiders, along with any fast light benefiting from the lag shield.

Did you just seriously compare an SCR to a spider or Firestarter? Hello, right field -- your player is now gone out of the stadium and is in the parking-lot.

Wow I was so crazy I should have been filling my deck with spider 5Vs and firestarter 5Ks since their uber hit-boxes will overcome everything! #clanlogicfail

Edited by nehebkau, 14 February 2015 - 08:29 PM.

[Yokaiko]

Relaed, on 14 February 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Seeing nothing but Timberwolves and crows on teams is getting old, you are right. These mechs are in demand? They should cost twice as much, and everyone should be forced to rebuy them.

Yeah, the whale is to slow for most things CW, the Gargoyle is a joke, and the Warhawk isn't a big enough upgrade over a Timber to make taking anything under 50 tons worth it.

Using a clan assault basically means you are running a three mech drop.

So yeah, SCR 55, HBR 65, TBR 75...., you act surprised.

It's not even that they are that good, but they have enough upgrades to get by.

.........and don't give me that "summoner is supposed to be mobile," crap because PGI killed the JJs, and 21.5 tons of space on a 70 ton mech is not ******* acceptable.

Edited by Yokaiko, 14 February 2015 - 07:51 PM.