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[The Droid]

Harathan, on 18 February 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm actually surprised Templars are sticking with the shitposters. Blemishes their image, somewhat.

It is better to be lighthearted "shitposter" than thin-skinned tightwad

[Vlad Ward]

MischiefSC, on 18 February 2015 - 10:26 PM, said:

Yeah, but why block of CGB?

Now the question is; will Steiner get in on it? BWC, Seraphim, both big groups who play very well, will they come home to Marik? What about the rest of Marik? There are a flat out *stupid* number of Marik players who, when properly herded, can bury the queues.

At this point though it's a matter of logistics, not tactics. MS isn't likely to go save Kurita and that's the sort of population you need. Davion has, in the past, fielded a lot of exceptional 12mans but you can only play 1 match at a time.

So who wants in on the bet? I'm betting Marik ends up rolling through Kurita to CGB and CSJ. I'm calling it less than 30 days, by which time Kurita will have a huge population slump and internal political fracture/quasi-revolt among population. In that time Davion population largely rebounds and mercs in significant numbers end up cycling back through CSJ, all of which makes for a Bad Time in HK.

Educated guess? I doubt getting in CGB's way ranks high on the radar. The algorithm chooses attacks that occasionally block CGB. CGB house units randomly launch unannounced attacks on CSJ to take them back and ruin CSJ IS progress for the night. CSJ gets annoyed and stops particularly caring whether they get in the way of CGB or not. Rest of IS thinks CSJ is "taking it easy" because their units are all defending against CGB instead of pushing IS pugs.

[Catamount]

LoklanZFG, on 18 February 2015 - 10:35 PM, said:

That's nice that Davion can take one of our planets when we don't have anyone defending it. And this nonsense I keep seeing about our "survival". You've got to be kidding me. Even if you want to gang up on us and overwhelm us with numbers, it's a game and we can't actually die. So we will keep dropping against whoever we can, and we will keep kicking your sorry scrub asses. If we are reduced to an island of 10 planets, we will still beat you when we get matches and we will still come to bask in your QQ while we shitpost, if thats how you'd like it

Wow, you're already moving the goal post from "we'll keep rolling everyone up because we're awesome" to "even if we lose everything we can still play the game"?

You have even less confidence in your faction than I do.

[MischiefSC]

LoklanZFG, on 18 February 2015 - 10:35 PM, said:

That's nice that Davion can take one of our planets when we don't have anyone defending it. And this nonsense I keep seeing about our "survival". You've got to be kidding me. Even if you want to gang up on us and overwhelm us with numbers, it's a game and we can't actually die. So we will keep dropping against whoever we can, and we will keep kicking your sorry scrub asses. If we are reduced to an island of 10 planets, we will still beat you when we get matches and we will still come to bask in your QQ while we shitpost, if thats how you'd like it

No, it was stacked 36+ deep. At one point is was 50+ on both sides. We fought a lot of Kurita today. We just beat them, consistently. Problem with having a handful of good 12mans is that with enough enemies you can't be everywhere.

Marik will continue to get better against Kurita and more numerous. They're also fighting you over your own worlds, which is an easy place to be in.

Harathan, on 18 February 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm actually surprised Templars are sticking with the shitposters. Blemishes their image, somewhat.

Good mercs focus on getting the job done. Don't hold stuff like that against mercs; business is business. The bigger question is of the merc units who've left Kurita how many will come back?

[Roadbeer]

Funniest thing about all this...

It costs us absolutely nothing to try to expand the island, win or lose.

But Kurita is so worried about their dots, they will lose many (that they will likely never get back) trying to hold on to a couple, because they arbitrarily decided "The wormhole must close", without even consulting us.

[Kenyon Burguess]

so the TLDR of the 11-12 pages is: marik will now hold 5 units of DCMS hostage every night so that the clans, dav, and steiner can grin thru them again. sound fun, I like trying out different units to fight.

[LoklanZFG]

Catamount, on 18 February 2015 - 10:38 PM, said:

Wow, you're already moving the goal post from "we'll keep rolling everyone up because we're awesome" to "even if we lose everything we can still play the game"?

You have even less confidence in your faction than I do.

Hahaha, I was actually describing a hypothetical situation to demonstrate that no matter how many scrubs you can throw at our borders, we will keep rolling the people who we drop against. Reading comprehension FTW

[The Droid]

Roadbeer, on 18 February 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:

Funniest thing about all this...

It costs us absolutely nothing to try to expand the island, win or lose.

But Kurita is so worried about their dots, they will lose many (that they will likely never get back) trying to hold on to a couple, because they arbitrarily decided "The wormhole must close", without even consulting us.

Man without clan front brags about having no worries

Geist Null, on 18 February 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:

so the TLDR of the 11-12 pages is: marik will now hold 5 units of DCMS hostage every night so that the clans, dav, and steiner can grin thru them again. sound fun, I like trying out different units to fight.

That seems to be the "idea" and I find it strange that there are Mariks saying this is about us "not doing enough about the clans" given that fact.

Edited by The Droid, 18 February 2015 - 10:45 PM.

[jeirhart]

Geist Null, on 18 February 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:

so the TLDR of the 11-12 pages is: marik will now hold 5 units of DCMS hostage every night so that the clans, dav, and steiner can grin thru them again. sound fun, I like trying out different units to fight.

Really? Cause it looks like Marik only has two more planets to lose before Kurita can go back to ignoring Marik. After today's events, looks like it will only take a few more attack windows,

Disappointing really.

[Roadbeer]

The Droid, on 18 February 2015 - 10:44 PM, said:

Man without clan front brags about having no worries

We don't, we were perfectly happy helping you, until your mouths got in the way. Now we help the FRR while showing everyone how petty you are.

Good job.

jeirhart, on 18 February 2015 - 10:45 PM, said:

Really? Cause it looks like Marik only has two more planets to lose before Kurita can go back to ignoring Marik. After today's events, looks like it will only take a few more attack windows,

Disappointing really.

Well, we spent a few days waiting for Kurita to pull their heads from their asses. Realized we'd be better off waiting on the sun to rise from the west on Terra.

[The Droid]

Man who declares war over posting attitudes "You are so petty."

[LoklanZFG]

MischiefSC, on 18 February 2015 - 10:42 PM, said:

No, it was stacked 36+ deep. At one point is was 50+ on both sides. We fought a lot of Kurita today. We just beat them, consistently. Problem with having a handful of good 12mans is that with enough enemies you can't be everywhere.

Marik will continue to get better against Kurita and more numerous. They're also fighting you over your own worlds, which is an easy place to be in.



Good mercs focus on getting the job done. Don't hold stuff like that against mercs; business is business. The bigger question is of the merc units who've left Kurita how many will come back?

Lulz, cycling through 3 hours worth of pugs and 1 or 2 merc groups qualifies, I guess. I'm glad you finally got to experience some victories

[wanderer]

Tasker, on 18 February 2015 - 10:15 PM, said:

Wanderer I enjoy your post very much. However, feel it worth pointing out that antics of sake baboons very flimsy pretext for grumpy men upset that sake baboons refuse to swing into old men's treehouse.

Success should not negate the need for mutual respect, this is true. The Confederation is not a client-state of the Free Worlds League, but an ally. As is the Combine.

It would be polite and most reasonable that the leadership of the Free Worlds recognize that an ally is one who most often says yes, but is well within their rights to say no as well. To find that one's allies may disagree with you is not grounds for anger, but rather understanding- an ally is not a slave, and an ally whose ability to disagree is met with wrath will soon not be an ally at all. The Concord was not a method by which one state would be the foot-stool of another, and respect is the price of all good alliances.

We already have one Successor State who has bitten every hand around it. It would be wise that the Free Worlds League reflect their success with the ability to be the better man when faced with something distasteful. If it was so much a blemish to the honor of the FWLM, perhaps it would have been better to bring it up to the very ally who can act as a friendly arbitrator to both sides instead of descending into open warfare.

On the other side, there is little status to be gained by poking an angry bird with a stick and going "Look, I can make it mad!" That the angry bird ritually turns Davion pigs into bacon as it flings itself fiercely into their midst is to be enjoyed, but driving it to distraction does not benefit the Combine. Purple Bird is not Yellow Bird unless you make it so, and what servant of the Combine is a worthy one if it does this?



Liao prefers both green and purple birds to the yellow enemies of us all. Spread millet upon the waters and flavor your sake with the crumbled bacon of our enemies. Cease this mindless discord for the benefit of the Concord and our alliance.

[Kenyon Burguess]

jeirhart, on 18 February 2015 - 10:45 PM, said:

Really? Cause it looks like Marik only has two more planets to lose before Kurita can go back to ignoring Marik. After today's events, looks like it will only take a few more attack windows,

Disappointing really.

pretty sure you would have been at the bubble by now if you 4 hadn't stopped off a few times to piss around with infighting

[MischiefSC]

Vlad Ward, on 18 February 2015 - 10:37 PM, said:

Educated guess? I doubt getting in CGB's way ranks high on the radar. The algorithm chooses attacks that occasionally block CGB. CGB house units randomly launch unannounced attacks on CSJ to take them back and ruin CSJ IS progress for the night. CSJ gets annoyed and stops particularly caring whether they get in the way of CGB or not. Rest of IS thinks CSJ is "taking it easy" because their units are all defending against CGB instead of pushing IS pugs.

Yes but what about when MS leaves CGB here in a bit?

When you look at the telemetry it favors a population shift away from Kurita and towards its enemies. Adaptation skill progression, as in the speed at which above average people adapt existing skillsets to related challenges is a pretty fast curve. It won't take long for Marik to get up to speed against Kurita, who plays a very different sort of game than they're used to. Marik coordinates tactics well and has a lot of units with thick populations that can share tactics.

Not charting anything but I don't find it a tough guess to make. I'd put money on it.

[Roadbeer]

The Droid, on 18 February 2015 - 10:47 PM, said:

Man who declares war over posting attitudes "You are so petty."

Can't say this enough, Cupcake

I didn't declare war. I've been out of town and off TS for the better part of a week. Came back and saw this whole poll and declaration of war that I had nothing to do with.

You attribute WAY to much power to me. I think it's cute.

[MischiefSC]

LoklanZFG, on 18 February 2015 - 10:47 PM, said:

Lulz, cycling through 3 hours worth of pugs and 1 or 2 merc groups qualifies, I guess. I'm glad you finally got to experience some victories

I've dropped against NKVA less than 6 times.

Otherwise I drop against NS 12mans at night and those go poorly.

Daytime though I roll Kurita mixed merc and pug matches consistently. We just haven't had the population to exploit it before.

That changed recently. We'll see how ti works out.

[Lord DeicideRavenRose]

Roadbeer, on 18 February 2015 - 10:21 PM, said:

Nice as it sounds, one only need to look at the second post in this thread, my reply to Kurita's "Ambassador" quoted directly from his reply to another Marik pilot in another thread.

This is how Clan Snake treats their allies.

I'd rather feed $4 into the Dickpunching Machine.

It's only $1 for members of House Marik

[Tasker]

wanderer, on 18 February 2015 - 10:47 PM, said:

Cease this mindless discord for the benefit of the Concord and our alliance.

Ha ha. We very much prefer to return to fighting clanners, Davion and furries. However, Marik initiate big fighting tonight, so only prove point that wormhole need be closed.

[hopterque]

Quote from man owned, "What are you gonna do, Own me?"

Ha Ha Ha.