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#81 Zergling

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:03 AM

I spent $120 on Founder's, and I regretted it for a long time, even tried to get a refund after I stopped playing shortly after the game was released.

I started playing again a few months ago, and I stopped regretting buying Founder's; I even dropped another $150 on the game, and I wouldn't dream of a refund now.

#82 LordNothing

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:49 AM

View PostRoadkill, on 18 February 2015 - 09:21 PM, said:

We have that - it's called the Group queue.

Community Warfare is hard core mode. If you can't handle being matched up against whoever happens to be available, whether good or bad, then you shouldn't play CW.


i dont think that was the intention. i dont think pgi wants to exclude a huge chunk of the player base by making a mode strictly for elite players. it just sorta became that through poor design. i dont think the elite players want to play pug stomp after pug stomp any more than pugs want to get stomped ad nauseam. its certainly not helping to increase the number of players to cater only to the top of the barrel.

group queue is just a system for building 12 mans out of arbitrarily sized groups and individuals, it has nothing to do with finding well matched opponents. it most certainly is not designed to match teams based on skill. as such saying its the same thing as a league system is like saying that an apple is an orange.

Edited by LordNothing, 19 February 2015 - 12:49 AM.


#83 NextGame

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:49 AM

View PostAxeman316, on 18 February 2015 - 07:04 PM, said:

As a right now if pgi offered me a total refund of every penny I spent on this game but could never play it again I would do it in a heart beat. Tired of all the quirking only to see mechs I spent MC, CB, and time to get totally gutted again. To give mechs quirks that made them fun to play again then 3 months later just gut them is stupid. I have a feeling pgi is hurting for cash so they need to sell more clans mechs that are coming out. Also seems Russ listen to all the clan twitter whiners on twitter to much.


nope, and I've probably spent multiple thousands $$ on this game.

Online games frequently have their balance changed, and yeah its a right pain to have to rebuild mechs, but its better than the game being totally stale, right?

If you had asked this question before IGP got ditched then I might have given you a different answer, but not for the rather vacuous reasons that you listed.

Edited by NextGame, 19 February 2015 - 12:50 AM.


#84 Jon Gotham

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:52 AM

View PostEscef, on 18 February 2015 - 09:42 PM, said:


It would be easy for me slash the tires on my own car, so what? Just because a task is easy to do does not mean it is going to get done. PGI should be afraid that if the Bribe People to Not Play Video Games Fairy decides to pay you visit you'll leave the game? Yeah, I'm sure that's got them losing sleep.

Angering the solo casuals must have caused them to lose sleep. Because they bent over backwards to appease them, didn't they? they actually created a queue that is focused on people playing SOLO in a MULTIPLAYER TEAM game....because people cried and whined loud enough. They obviously thought they'd lose revenue otherwise they'd have done what every other game of this model has done to people like that-ignore them.
If the whales think about going however you have a real issue. Say if 100 people decide to leave that have spent say $1000 you would need 2000 casuals that might spend just $50 to replace them. I doubt MWO has that kind of playerbase.
Yet here we are, PGI running scared from the big bad casual and his/her demands.
So Roadkill does have a point to be honest, if they are scared of a few people who have spent sub $100 dollars leaving they probably would be if quite a few $500+ guys want out.

So anyway to answer the op possibly. I've spent over $1000 since I started I think, a scary amount of money. I'm quite ashamed of it to be honest. But I did love this game so very much and was desperate for it to succeed. I loved MW3 and MW4 and was hyper excited about this. Whilst it fell short a bit, I still loved it. But now? It's kinda meh.
In the last year it's started to go the way WoT did with the arty whiners. In WoT some very vocal players got vehicle balance changed to suit them, by crying and raging on the forums. Result? a whole class of tank became useless, no refunds for those that had invested just a single fingered salute to the players that had them. WG just kow towed scared of losing revenue.
The same has happened here. The game is shifting direction now, with the advent of the solo queue the first blow to it was struck. Like to group up with one mate? GET OUT FARMERS!!!!one!!! *sigh*
Now, witness round two of that crying in CW section of forums. It won't be long before that gets savaged too. I feel what this game could be is rapidly narrowing in scope due to this. It most certainly isn't the game I hoped for before I opened my wallet to support it.
I still enjoy it on occasion, but my wallet is remaining firmly shut from now on-I wonder how many bigger spenders feel the same? If they offered all that money back-I'd be sorely tempted.

Edited by kamiko kross, 19 February 2015 - 12:53 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 12:59 AM

View PostLordNothing, on 19 February 2015 - 12:49 AM, said:


i dont think that was the intention. i dont think pgi wants to exclude a huge chunk of the player base by making a mode strictly for elite players. it just sorta became that through poor design. i dont think the elite players want to play pug stomp after pug stomp any more than pugs want to get stomped ad nauseam. its certainly not helping to increase the number of players to cater only to the top of the barrel.

group queue is just a system for building 12 mans out of arbitrarily sized groups and individuals, it has nothing to do with finding well matched opponents. it most certainly is not designed to match teams based on skill. as such saying its the same thing as a league system is like saying that an apple is an orange.

If the CW queue waited around to match elo you would literally never get to play it.

#86 Weeny Machine

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:08 AM

View PostVanguard836, on 18 February 2015 - 08:17 PM, said:

A few words of advice : don't spend money on the " flavour of the month " simply because it is the " flavour of the month " as sooner or later it will be brought back in line with the other ones and another will take it's place and the cycle repeats again.

This is true for any game, not just this one.


Ok, Blackjack-DC was flavour of the month? Riiiiight...

#87 Creovex

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:10 AM

View PostBush Hopper, on 19 February 2015 - 01:08 AM, said:


Ok, Blackjack-DC was flavour of the month? Riiiiight...


It was, just like the Thunderbolt 5SS was before it...

#88 Sky Ferrix

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:10 AM

I wouldn't, and I say that as a founder that has pre-ordered and piloted solely clan mechs since their release. At it's core, I find it to be an enjoyable experience...Maybe not perfect, but certainly the best Battletech experience currently available. Rightly so, this is a very complicated game, and things are going to always need tweaking.

I say this to the general audience; If you're truly feeling such an absolute burning regret for spending money on this game, you probably should have put more thought into your purchase decisions in the first place.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:11 AM

In a heart beat and I have asked a few times to just get my money back and delete my account ban me whatever it takes, the game lost it's flavor after the first year if anything sooner than that but the real hit was when it was so called officially released and for it to have gone down in fun from their.

The release of clans at first was fun was new but now they simply just another thing to nerf.

So yeah if I could take the option to just get my money back and simply have my account taken away I'd do it, rather spend it on my 5 month year old boy buy toys and food or better games which is just about anything these days compare to this type of game.

I just beat god of war 3 again...I spent 60 bucks on that and never regretted a penny now dont tell me "pgi is a small team!!!!" They still gotten way more undeserved money than any other triple A game hell even destiny as terrible game as that is and stopped playing months ago has more content than this does.

In conclusion again yes yes yes. Please make this an option pgi would be appreciated.

#90 Jon Gotham

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:15 AM

View PostFoxx, on 19 February 2015 - 01:10 AM, said:

I say this to the general audience; If you're truly feeling such an absolute burning regret for spending money on this game, you probably should have put more thought into your purchase decisions in the first place.

I'm not a clairvoyant mate:P It WAS worth every penny, until they started bowing down.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:28 AM

I think every free to play game should have this option because every free to play game I've played has been junk deep down the story sucks if it even has a story and just a bunch of amateur lazy programmers who would be better off as car salesmen and no I wouldn't even bother trying to buy a car they try to sell would likely be a broken car but pretty on the outside.

If they were to have attempted to put in the kind of game they originally advertised with the reveal trailer would have been a happy mechwarrior fan, but instead we get this joke.

I dont even really play anymore I just dont see the point I could wait two more years and it would likely look and play the same.

As a gamer I have gone back to playing the older games when they were actually games not these fake cash grab games, I have more fun playing super nintendo or ps2 to name a few that I still enjoy today than anything made today, This next gen garbage that has been going on for a year now was all wasted money I bought both the ps4 and xbox 1 and still haven't gotten my monies worth.

Meh being a gamer these days just sucks we put in pretty much 10x as much money into these games anymore and get nothing in return that resembles a game of what we paid for. It's nothing but these bullshit kickstarters and ea games anymore and more than half of them dont even ever get finished they got your money they laugh and start a new game and try the same thing again.

Edited by Darth Bane001, 19 February 2015 - 01:31 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:30 AM

After a year of rinse and repeat with little changes? Yes. Kudos to those who endured this even longer. If it wouldnt be for my mates and the love for this brand i would be playing something else. It is getting hard to even bring myself to start the game. I got a lots of mechs with a lot of setups just for eather kill everything or cap on the same maps day in day out. What about a mode like Mariokart. Only lights either racing or trying to leg the opponents. A kind of escort mode protecting something. Or a survival mode where you can get ressources after each wave to resupply or buy gimmicks, just anything to spice the gameplay a little bit.

Edited by Kotzi, 19 February 2015 - 01:31 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2015 - 01:38 AM

Yup I just dont think this team has the talent and imagination and ability to make this game the Mechwarrior 5 we have all waited a decade for. I really dont see a point in waiting anymore the franchise is in the hands of a small time team it will never go triple A again.

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 02:42 AM

So far I have gotten every penny's worth out of the game. So PGI owes me no refund.

#95 N0MAD

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 03:25 AM

Would i ask for a refund on a cheap bottle of bad wine? no, i know what i payed for..
Would i spend 10X what i have if it was anyone else developing this game? yep.
Put the money i did into this simply because its MW..the IP..

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 03:55 AM

I dont know what you said. But as far as the title of this thread.


YES... OM*G YES!

#97 StraferX

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 04:42 AM

How's nope grab ya?

I've spent roughly $100 with the wrath pack and various paints and mech bays.
Will this game get me to spend more? yeah probably not unless we get double the maps here shortly as it's getting long in the tooth. 3 years is about the life span with out significant content and i'm sorry CW has not yet sold me but am hopeful.

I won't lie I really look forward to star citizen going full live and MWO will more than likely be back burner material unless it is a massive fail.

#98 Ovion

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 04:43 AM

To date, I have purchased the Clan 1+2 packs, the Resistance pack, the Urbanmech Collectors pack and a reasonable amount of mc.
(enough for 5-6 hero mechs, a ton of mech bays, some colours, and sundries - though all bought at half price, bar my Pirate's Bane)

That's what... Usd 480, plus the MC. I think under USD600.
And if I sit down and think about that figure, it's scary and a little worrying.

But I've got 150+ hours, around 2000 drops ,just boots on the ground, not including time in mechlab.
Works out to probably 2usd an hour or less,and I feel I've generally got my moneys worth.

So, no. I wouldn't.
And if this new pack takes my fancy, I'll get that too.


#99 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 08:44 PM

View PostRoadkill, on 18 February 2015 - 09:16 PM, said:

Pay attention, much? The point of the thread totally went over your heads, didn't it?

I'm not asking for a refund. That isn't the point of the thread.

The point is that if it were offered, would you take it? Of course it isn't going to be offered. Duh.


The point of the thread is to be flamebait and be dusruptive since the offer wont BE extended and what was the point again? Oh yeah there isnt one.

lol K-town, looks like the mods agree

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 19 February 2015 - 08:44 PM.


#100 Ovion

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Posted 19 February 2015 - 11:50 PM

To me it read more as 'are you satisfied with the return on your money'.

But hey ho.



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