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[MuchasGracias]

This is nice, but come on. I preordered wave I and wave II and NOW wave III and I receive only colors from wave I and II?

That is bad. That is a bad support for the players who preordered things...

Just add some new colors for the people who already own the colors... :/

[Bud Beers]

I agree. These colors are useless to me considering I already received them from the previous waves. With incentives like these, this might be the last package I purchase.

[Cimarb]

It is free....quit whining...

[signal]

Without the colours, the value for the price is still insanely high.

[Anjian]

Contacting support for a complete refund of my Clan Wave 3 preorder ($120). After today, the server performance is just so bad, even though my ping has been constant. The hit registration, the warps, the light mechs missing frames.

I have been a player and a purchaser for 2-1/2 years, and over this time, server performance has not improved, but worsened over time, and I do not have the belief or faith any longer that it will improve. All the money that has been spent has not gone to improving server performance or keeping up with the increasing demand.

I am not saying that everyohe is suffering this problem. I am at Oceania, with a constant ping of around 220ms. Except that I do not expect my ping to feel like its around 2200ms. I play other online games and I don't have the issues to the extent I get with MWO.

[Anjian]

I got my refund. I appreciate the quick service and thank you.

[Soul Catcher]

Been looking but no answer found.

Any word on which of the "2 Standard Variants" we will be receiving with our purchases of the Shadow Cat?

Just want to make sure the ECM is included in the deal.

[FupDup]

Soul Catcher, on 24 April 2015 - 12:43 PM, said:

Been looking but no answer found.

Any word on which of the "2 Standard Variants" we will be receiving with our purchases of the Shadow Cat?

Just want to make sure the ECM is included in the deal.

ECM is the Alt B. The only timeline-friendly variants are the Prime, Alt A, and Alt B, so you're safe.

The Alt P is PGI's made-up invention to fit the preorder bonuses paradigm.

Edited by FupDup, 25 April 2015 - 08:33 AM.

[Lanancuras]

FupDup, on 24 April 2015 - 12:52 PM, said:

ECM is the Prime variant, so you're safe.

The only timeline-friendly variants are the Prime, Alt A, and Alt B, so that especially reinforces the point. The Alt P is PGI's made-up invention to fit the preorder bonuses paradigm.

Actually, ECM is the B variant, which comes with an ECM hardpoint in its left torso.

[Scout Derek]

Got about another month or two before we get the MASC mechs, and the interesting hardpoint of missiles on the upper arms

[FupDup]

Lanancuras, on 24 April 2015 - 01:15 PM, said:

Actually, ECM is the B variant, which comes with an ECM hardpoint in its left torso.

Oh...fudge. I brainfarted hard there. Edited above.

[Kinski Orlawisch]

2nd Monthly Reward on May 1st.

??? Did someone got it? Or forgotten? Or do I ask too early?

[Twilight Fenrir]

Marc von der Heide, on 01 May 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

2nd Monthly Reward on May 1st.

??? Did someone got it? Or forgotten? Or do I ask too early?

Too early, I think... I think PGI just unlocked their building an hour and a half ago... Or... In an half hour... Can't remember which...

[Kinski Orlawisch]

Delayed to 5th. of May.

[Twilight Fenrir]

Looking at the art... Look how nice and high the Gauss Rifle is on thqt Shadowcat! Higher than the cockpit, and there's very little mech above that. This mech will be SUPERB at harassment.

The Ebon Jag has pretty good height to its weapons too. At least, compared to the other clan mechs.

Really can't wait for Wave III <3 I'm switching over to the clans as soon as it does Get ready for 3 Jags and a Shadowcat in my dropdeck! XD

[grendeldog]

Yeah it looks like there's actually a pretty nice variety of hardpoints on the various variants, with ballistics being featured. I was hoping the IS Resistance 2 pack would also have a lot of diverse loadouts, but PGI decided to go wih mostly energy boats. We'll see how the R2 pack goes - whether or not they are useful or not due to what quirks they get - but I would have preferred a bit more ballistics in that pack.

Anyway, I'm totally excited for Wave 3! Looks like fun, and I like that there will probably be a bit more variety in clan CW decks due to having a proper light and another useful medium.

I'm also totally excited for the ECM Cataphract, but that's off-topic so I'll leave it at that.

[Twilight Fenrir]

grendeldog, on 05 May 2015 - 04:33 PM, said:

Yeah it looks like there's actually a pretty nice variety of hardpoints on the various variants, with ballistics being featured. I was hoping the IS Resistance 2 pack would also have a lot of diverse loadouts, but PGI decided to go wih mostly energy boats. We'll see how the R2 pack goes - whether or not they are useful or not due to what quirks they get - but I would have preferred a bit more ballistics in that pack.

Anyway, I'm totally excited for Wave 3! Looks like fun, and I like that there will probably be a bit more variety in clan CW decks due to having a proper light and another useful medium.

I'm also totally excited for the ECM Cataphract, but that's off-topic so I'll leave it at that.

Wave 2 was entirely our own fault... there was a thread in the Suggestions section asking what mechs you'd like to see next... wanna guess what 4 chassis won the most votes in a landslide? (Actually, the Mauler had another mech nearly tied with it, but, it's a statistical anomaly )

I dunno... I really wanna buy a Black Knight and Crab :x But, ugghhh.... How well the mechs will, or will not suit me is entirely based on which quirks they get, and we won't know that until it's far too late.... Also... holy crap, the new R2 art O_O

Wave 3 is where it's at n.n Best pack since the Founder's Pack n.n (Actually... I wish I could retroactively get in on the Phoenix Pack... the Urbie pack was pretty boss, too...)

Edited by Twilight Fenrir, 05 May 2015 - 05:14 PM.

[KursedVixen]

What is the c-bill prices for the wave 3 mechs?

[Mcgral18]

KursedVixen, on 13 May 2015 - 04:15 AM, said:

What is the c-bill prices for the wave 3 mechs?

You can get a rough estimate (accurate to within a Million, generally) by breaking down the mech into basic components, and use this guys spreadsheet to make it easier:
https://docs.google....RoSQ/edit#gid=0
http://mwomercs.com/...flying-fox-333/

He hasn't updated for Wave III, but it's still relevant. Apparently DHS in the engines aren't always counted, nor some mechs with AMS and TCs, so not completely accurate, but still pretty close.


To Guesstimate the Shadowcat Prime:
Armour: ~150k
Chassis: ~1.3 mil
Engine: 4.410 mil
Omnipods: ~2.05 mil
JJs: 456k

Subtotal: 8 366 000 Cbills, plus equipment

Equipment:
Active Probe 400k
2 ERMLs 320k
Gauss Rifle 600k
Gauss Ammo 40k

Subtotal 1 360 000 Cbills

Total for the ShadowCat Prime should be ~9 726 000 Cbills.
Let's say 10 Mil.


Do that for the other robots, and you should have a safe estimate for the cost of the mech.

[Ovion]

Mcgral18, on 13 May 2015 - 12:52 PM, said:

You can get a rough estimate (accurate to within a Million, generally) by breaking down the mech into basic components, and use this guys spreadsheet to make it easier:
https://docs.google....RoSQ/edit#gid=0
http://mwomercs.com/...flying-fox-333/

He hasn't updated for Wave III, but it's still relevant. Apparently DHS in the engines aren't always counted, nor some mechs with AMS and TCs, so not completely accurate, but still pretty close.


To Guesstimate the Shadowcat Prime:
Armour: ~150k
Chassis: ~1.3 mil
Engine: 4.410 mil
Omnipods: ~2.05 mil
JJs: 456k

Subtotal: 8 366 000 Cbills, plus equipment

Equipment:
Active Probe 400k
2 ERMLs 320k
Gauss Rifle 600k
Gauss Ammo 40k

Subtotal 1 360 000 Cbills

Total for the ShadowCat Prime should be ~9 726 000 Cbills.
Let's say 10 Mil.


Do that for the other robots, and you should have a safe estimate for the cost of the mech.

Alternatively, just look at Sarna, won't precisely match MWO's, but will be reasonably close:

Mech - MWO / Sarna
Mist Lynx - 5.7 / 4.8
Kit Fox - 6 / 5.4
Adder - 7 / 7
Est x1

Ice Ferret - 10.5 / 12.5
Nova - 10 / 11.5
Stormcrow - 11.1 / 14.8
Est x1.2

Mad Dog - 11.7 / 15.2
Hellbringer - 13.7 / 19.1
Summoner - 14 / 21.3
Timber Wolf - 15.2 / 24.2
Est x1.4

Gargoyle - 15.2 / 26
Warhawk - 16.2 / 26.4
Dire Wolf - 17.8 / 29.4
Est x1.6
Wave 3:
Arctic Cheetah (Hankyu) - 7 mil-ish = est 7-8 mil-ish
Shadow Cat - 11 mil-ish = est 9-10mil-ish
Ebon Jaguar (Cauldron Born) - 18 mil-ish = 13-14 mil-ish
Executioner (Gladiator) - 35 mil-ish = 21-22 mil-ish