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[Tor Jorgensson]

I am determined to play a Proud Jade Falcon Warrior to the hilt here.

As such, I used all my Cadet C-bills, and C-bills earned since, to buy, of course, Kit Foxes, and Summoners.

Which, of course, means this current challenge, which I am very interested in finishing, is, already so early on, giving me a heart condition, and possibly unhealthy levels of blood pressure.

Can anyone recommend some dependable Kit Fox and Summoner builds capable of throwing down a dependable kill? Or am I better off just playing a damn (*shudder* and throw up in my mouth a little bit) Trial Firestarter or something?

Help me MWObi-Wan-Kenobis...you're my only hopes.

Edited by Damon Mattlov, 01 March 2015 - 01:34 AM.

[Alaskan Nobody]

I am hardly an expert on them - but both can run fairly scary SRM/SSRM boats.

My SMN-B ran 4xSRM4 and 1xLRM15 (for long range support) and got fairly decent scores.

[Tor Jorgensson]

Doh, meant to post this in the Battlemechs forum, but thanks Shar!

[Bulletsponge0]

I like my summoner with 2 UAC-5s and 4 small lasers
or 2 LB-2x's and 4 ERMLs...but that runs NOT

[Tor Jorgensson]

Bulletsponge0, on 27 February 2015 - 08:31 PM, said:

I like my summoner with 2 UAC-5s and 4 small lasers
or 2 LB-2x's and 4 ERMLs...but that runs NOT

I was actually looking at a build like that in the mechlab.

[Tim East]

Damon Mattlov, on 27 February 2015 - 08:24 PM, said:

I am determined to play a Proud Jade Falcon Warrior to the hilt here.

As such, I used all my Cadet C-bills, and C-bills earned since, to buy, or course, Kit Foxes, and Summoners.

Which, or course, means this current challenge, which I am very interested in finishing, is, already so early on, giving me a heart condition, and possibly unhealthy levels of blood pressure.

Can anyone recommend some dependable Kit Fox and Summoner builds capable of throwing down a dependable kill? Or am I better off just playing a damn (*shudder* and throw up in my mouth a little bit) Trial Firestarter or something?

Help me MWObi-Wan-Kenobis...you're my only hopes.

SRM-spam. Works for my Stormcrow, should suffice for the Kit Fox since one killed me thus a bit ago, and I've seen Summoners rock it with rockets pretty well in the past. Good luck on the challenge, fellow Falcon!

[luigi256]

This is the Streak summoner I run. If you meet a light it will likely die.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ef77e87cca62de0

And for the Kitfox I have no idea. I just try to ECM and PPC people. You might be able to kill steal with 20 pinpoint damage. Not that I condone that kind of thing.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

One recommendation is Mechspecs, if you haven't gone there before.



I don't have much experience with Summoners yet, but I have run Kit Foxes.

A pure SRMer can be fun and effective. Such as four ASRM-4s and four tons of ammo, mixed with a number of JJs and it can be more fun at times.

I've been considering trying this out myself: Build, It's toasty if you rely on the LPL, but the idea is to use up the ammo and have the LPL as a long range back-up weapon for the rest.

[Tor Jorgensson]

4/17 qualifying matches so far...

How many do we need again...80?

Yeah, feeling depressed about it.

[TheCaptainJZ]

only 50 for the mech itself i believe.

[Tarogato]

Try Summoner B with 5x SRM6+A and at least 7.5 tons of ammo.

It's the exact same loadout as a SCR-D can take, except is has more armour, it has artemis, but it runs a tiny bit hotter.

You can deal some sustained damage by alternating left and right arms, and then when you're ready to deal the killing blow, alpha the whole SRM30. Focus the right component, and the artemis will ensure that you actually hit it with all 30.

[Koniving]

Damon Mattlov, on 27 February 2015 - 08:24 PM, said:

Help me MWObi-Wan-Kenobis...you're my only hopes.

Summoner, I haven't got much luck with them.

Kitfox? Stealth. Requires three weapon groups, stick to allies. You can trade the LPL for an ER PPC, but then you might wanna trade the other energy weapon for a size II targeting computer to compensate for the slow projectile speed.
There's others. But I tend to keep them to myself.

[dragnier1]

I had a summoner running uac20, 2 mlas and srm6

Had another running 1 erppc, lrm20 and 2 srm4

*I forgot to mention i switched omnipods to make the above listed setups

Edited by dragnier1, 28 February 2015 - 09:42 PM.

[RedEagle86]

Some Kit Fox builds I've run (without smurfy as I'm crunched for time):

Prime: 2LL, 1 JJ (fixed RT-S), 1 SPL, ECM, 4 extra DHS.
S: 2LL, ECM, 2xAMS (1.5 tons ammo), 1 extra DHS, 4 JJ (Both S torsos, and the S Left Leg)
D: LPL (left arm), ERML (Right Arm), ECM, 3xAMS (3.5 tons ammo), 1 JJ (S left torso), TC MK 1 in the Left torso.

[Anassi]

Summoner: 5x LRM5, c-AP
Complete jerk build, extremely annoying for anyone unfortunate enough to run across it but very effective. Stick to the sides of your assaults, do NOT just fire from the back line. You have armor, you have speed, you have jumpies. Use them. Walk with the fatties and suppress everything they come across. The constant stream of missiles on chain fire will ensure that you generally kill something any given match and it can make anyone run for cover.

Just don't lob them from behind cover. Use your speed and acquire your own targets.

[dragnier1]

Anassi, on 28 February 2015 - 12:09 PM, said:

Summoner: 5x LRM5, c-AP
Complete jerk build, extremely annoying for anyone unfortunate enough to run across it but very effective. Stick to the sides of your assaults, do NOT just fire from the back line. You have armor, you have speed, you have jumpies. Use them. Walk with the fatties and suppress everything they come across. The constant stream of missiles on chain fire will ensure that you generally kill something any given match and it can make anyone run for cover.

Just don't lob them from behind cover. Use your speed and acquire your own targets.

I find this quite risky though, if your opponents rushed your team you are caught out without enough close range weapons. That is why i mix the omnipods on the summoners. My builds mostly become "jack-of-trades" but in pug games at least i can fight and react to all situations.

[Tor Jorgensson]

Currently at 16/54 Qualifying/Played...

Why did I blow all my C-bills on this particular combo of mechs...me and my foolish Jade Falcon pride. It is folly I tell you.

I am considering just selling them all and buying a single Stormcrow or something.

[Kilo 40]

not the best, just what I use.

My Summoner
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e23c21b737aac04

my Kit Fox with ECM
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e8e3706a4a94d6c

and without ECM
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6242fb60c5bf6a6

[Tor Jorgensson]

Soooo...

I sold all my Kit Foxes and my Summoner, and bought a Mad Dog, put LRM-5 x 6, ERML x 4, and a CAP in it...

And let us just say, the Challenge got a whoooole lot easier.

Seriously, if I had just freaking done that at the beginning, I would not be nearly so far behind...

Live and learn. And P.S. Clan Jade Falcon, you need to hang your hat on better mechs, on the real.

[Anassi]

dragnier1, on 28 February 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

I find this quite risky though, if your opponents rushed your team you are caught out without enough close range weapons. That is why i mix the omnipods on the summoners. My builds mostly become "jack-of-trades" but in pug games at least i can fight and react to all situations.

Agreed, I don't much like the lack of short range capability of a pure LRM build and would love to have a few med lasers in there but on the Summoner every energy hard point costs you two launchers, kinda defeating the purpose of the build. Push comes to shove you can still fire the missiles into the dead zone, Clanners still do damage < 180m, so you got at least some semblance of short range firepower. It's also not meant for any kind of serious gameplay, I would never dare to bring this into a group drop. It's just to annoy some pugs and do the challenge.

Edited by Anassi, 01 March 2015 - 03:29 AM.