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[BellatorMonk]

So I just got out of a match where this model SC absorbed over 300pts of total damage to the CT point blank from two different mechs and never died. CT turned red and no further.

Is this the refreshed Trial mech for this patch? Is the hit box broken?

[Paigan]

I have the same impression of nearly indestructible Stormcrows.
Both when playing against and when playing WITH one myself (e.g. killed two TBRs with ease).

Hitboxes must be screwed up, i guess.

... scrowed up

[Metus regem]

The Storm Crows have buggy hit boxes, this is a known issue, and some people like to use it as a reason to nerf all clan mechs, some clan pilots say it is working as intended, and some of us, think it should be looked at, and adjusted if needed. I'm of the fix it if it is broken group.

[RePlayBoy101]

Not messing around
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a couple of min ago an ice ferret absorbed 6 AC20 shots in the CT... what was that ???


My connection was good...

[FupDup]

Well, according to the player-made hitbox testing thread, the Doomcrow hitboxes look something to this effect:



I think part of the mech's durability could be from its running animation, which has a "bounce" in its step that might cause a shot to miss. Its similar to a mech using JJ animations rapidly, but to a lesser extent.

[Paigan]

Googling just resulted in the following image, hilarious


Source:
http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__3940064

[Brody319]

FupDup, on 03 March 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

Well, according to the player-made hitbox testing thread, the Doomcrow hitboxes look something to this effect:



I think part of the mech's durability could be from its running animation, which has a "bounce" in its step that might cause a shot to miss. Its similar to a mech using JJ animations rapidly, but to a lesser extent.

lies!

[Bishop Steiner]

just got off mining collective where I was pouring PPC fire into the backs of exposed, stationary mechs at about 500 meters.... zero registration. At first I was shocked no one was turning to return fire...til I realized they were doing no damage.

[Soy]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 March 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

just got off mining collective where I was pouring PPC fire into the backs of exposed, stationary mechs at about 500 meters.... zero registration. At first I was shocked no one was turning to return fire...til I realized they were doing no damage.

[mogs01gt]

Bishop Steiner, on 03 March 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

just got off mining collective where I was pouring PPC fire into the backs of exposed, stationary mechs at about 500 meters.... zero registration. At first I was shocked no one was turning to return fire...til I realized they were doing no damage.

Were you getting hit notifications? I've had similar issues but was not getting a hit notifier when slapping multiple rounds into a Crow.

[Bishop Steiner]

mogs01gt, on 03 March 2015 - 01:12 PM, said:

Were you getting hit notifications? I've had similar issues but was not getting a hit notifier when slapping multiple rounds into a Crow.

Nope, wasn't. Didn't notice the first few because they were dead to rights shots I saw hit and explode on the Mechs.... then I was like...what the heck? And sure enough, no hit registration. Seemed to sort itself out later in the match, but would come back up. No building geometry anywhere near the mechs, nothing. Dunno if something was out of sync, didn't think to check pings.

[Zippitt]

I can tell you playing as a SC there is nothing wrong with the hit boxes, I have been one shot more than one occasion peaking around corners and I have not seen issues killing other SCs.

I will say I have seen a plethora of hit detection issues across the board, but appears to be network / server / traffic related because it's not consistent.

[Tennex]

Stormcrow hitboxes need to be looked at in general

[Shredhead]

Metus regem, on 03 March 2015 - 01:00 PM, said:

The Storm Crows have buggy hit boxes, this is a known issue, and some people like to use it as a reason to nerf all clan mechs, some clan pilots say it is working as intended, and some of us, think it should be looked at, and adjusted if needed. I'm of the fix it if it is broken group.

The Storm Crow does not have buggy hit boxes. In fact, the hit boxes on the Crow are fine, it's just they are small due to it having a small torso. That makes it easy to roll damage.

[Metus regem]

Shredhead, on 03 March 2015 - 02:09 PM, said:

The Storm Crow does not have buggy hit boxes. In fact, the hit boxes on the Crow are fine, it's just they are small due to it having a small torso. That makes it easy to roll damage.

Then my Storm Crows must be faulty, as mine come apart like the are a Locust......

[Monkey Lover]

Metus regem, on 03 March 2015 - 02:11 PM, said:

Then my Storm Crows must be faulty, as mine come apart like the are a Locust......

Drive around a nova for a few games and tell me how you feel about the crow


Out of all the clan mechs the crow is one of the hardest to target. You just end of spreading damage all over. How often do you get cored out?

Edited by Monkey Lover, 03 March 2015 - 02:18 PM.

[Deathlike]

I've never had a problem shooting them or taking damage (at least to my knowledge).

The trick IMO is to aim a bit lower at the Stormcrow when it moves. I'm not sure why but that is what it is.

[Metus regem]

Monkey Lover, on 03 March 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

Drive around a nova for a few games and tell me how you feel about the crow


Out of all the clan mechs the crow is one of the hardest to target. You just end of spreading damage all over. How often do you get cored out?

My Nova's fair much better... My Crows and I have never been able to "talk" to each other. I'm not sure how else to put it, most of the mechs I own, I get a feeling for what and how they like to run, and I try to play to their strenghts... but the Crows just won't talk to me.

[BARBAR0SSA]

Monkey Lover, on 03 March 2015 - 02:17 PM, said:

Drive around a nova for a few games and tell me how you feel about the crow


Out of all the clan mechs the crow is one of the hardest to target. You just end of spreading damage all over. How often do you get cored out?

When they were playing peek-a-boo I was able to fire PPCs in to their torso before they even saw me...I wrecked a lot of stormcrows with my 9s and erLL BLR-1S.

I think I've seen every single mech have PPCs not register damage on them.

Edited by shad0w4life, 03 March 2015 - 02:22 PM.

[Michael Kail]

Old topic I know, but I just had a strange experience. I moved close to a DC'd Stormcrow for a head-shot. I used three medium IS pulse lasers and couldn't hit the head. It was obvious where it was located, but all I got was CT.

Thinking I was too close, I backed up... still no headshot. I aimed lower, below the cockpit. It hit both LT and RT simultaneously, not the head or CT. I adjusted my aim higher... it hit NOTHING! A spot above the cockpit glowed red and the scan showed NO additional damage. I hit that blasted spot three times almost dead center mass and got nothing.

Then I gave up and went back to coring the CT. Can someone tell me what was going on?

I was driving a Phoenix-Hawk Roc on a Gather Intel scouting mission early this morning.