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[Rhent]

Fix the tournament system, its ridiculously bad. Having tournaments that require your players to be alive at the end to get a "point", leads to selfish behavior on the weekends that drives a lot of your player base to completely hate your tournaments.

I take it you are trying to create tournaments that actually will increase player numbers. Its pretty damn easy:
Base points on your actual score for a match.

You know, you guys worked long and hard to come up with a scoring system to reward team work more than lone wolf behaviors and then you set up tournaments that encourage lone wolf behaviors.

I don't care how you guys determine a point is given, it could be the top 4 of a match gets one point, maybe some kind of sliding scale where #1 = 3 pts to #24 = 0.01 pts.

I don't care, but when you have players who crank out 800+ damage, get 5 kills + 140 pts and dies to get their team a win and then they get no points, that is pure unadulterated feces and you know it.

[keith]

if they do anything. they should do a weekend based on many different reqs to win X. mabye have 5 of get a kill, assit and live. have 5 get over 400 dam in a round. have 5 get a kill and a assit. have 5 just get a win. and so forth leave more ideas up to pgi, this will have ppl on many different places of their reqs over the weekend while playing, leading to better play.

[Rhent]

keith, on 04 March 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

if they do anything. they should do a weekend based on many different reqs to win X. mabye have 5 of get a kill, assit and live. have 5 get over 400 dam in a round. have 5 get a kill and a assit. have 5 just get a win. and so forth leave more ideas up to pgi, this will have ppl on many different places of their reqs over the weekend while playing, leading to better play.

-You have no way of knowing your damage until you die
-You have to remember your kill counts, you don't have a way to tell you your kills until you die

Kill counts and damage are not going to help you until Piranha puts those information bits into the game while you are alive.

[Soy]

Maybe it should be mystery objectives, that are only guessable cuz flavor text on the rewards or something.

Then again I guess first person to get XYZ objective will just **** out a thread here and there goes that idea......

Edited by Soy, 04 March 2015 - 04:38 PM.

[Deathlike]

Rhent, on 04 March 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

-You have no way of knowing your damage until you die
-You have to remember your kill counts, you don't have a way to tell you your kills until you die

Kill counts and damage are not going to help you until Piranha puts those information bits into the game while you are alive.

You know... they used to have that in Open Beta until the "scoreboard facelift" that occurred around the time UI 1.5 was deployed.

That would help I guess.

Note: The only thing you saw was the kill counts I think, not the damage score.

Edited by Deathlike, 04 March 2015 - 05:17 PM.

[Soy]

Deathlike, on 04 March 2015 - 05:17 PM, said:

You know... they used to have that in Open Beta until the "scoreboard facelift" that occurred around the time UI 1.5 was deployed.

That would help I guess.

Note: The only thing you saw was the kill counts I think, not the damage score.

It was nerve-wracking watch that scoreboard update in last hour of a tourny, hoping some smurf alt wasn't chaining 5 sick rounds in a row in the underhive. xD

[StraferX]

Rhent, on 04 March 2015 - 04:37 PM, said:

Kill counts and damage are not going to help you until Piranha puts those information bits into the game while you are alive.

Well my new panther and enforcers have 18 monitor panels mounted right in my line of sight blocking my view and they do absolutely nothing but block my view. These could be used to monitor your progress, give you rearview cam or even watch cartoons on.

[LT. HARDCASE]

It's EASY:

Base it solely on Match Score, and you earn points to win awards as the benchmarks get higher.

Simple!

[Wabbit Swaya]

Damn, beat me to it, was just about to post that same idea, had to delete and start over again.
Rear view would be nice, damage done would be nice.
Don't some the screens have a kill count that always say zero, did those ever work?

[Coolant]

Rhent, on 04 March 2015 - 04:30 PM, said:

Fix the tournament system, its ridiculously bad. Having tournaments that require your players to be alive at the end to get a "point", leads to selfish behavior on the weekends that drives a lot of your player base to completely hate your tournaments.

I take it you are trying to create tournaments that actually will increase player numbers. Its pretty damn easy:
Base points on your actual score for a match.

You know, you guys worked long and hard to come up with a scoring system to reward team work more than lone wolf behaviors and then you set up tournaments that encourage lone wolf behaviors.

I don't care how you guys determine a point is given, it could be the top 4 of a match gets one point, maybe some kind of sliding scale where #1 = 3 pts to #24 = 0.01 pts.

I don't care, but when you have players who crank out 800+ damage, get 5 kills + 140 pts and dies to get their team a win and then they get no points, that is pure unadulterated feces and you know it.

or you should feel ashamed for complaining about free stuff....

[Rhent]

Coolant, on 04 March 2015 - 06:24 PM, said:

or you should feel ashamed for complaining about free stuff....

Or you should feel ashamed for someone giving a way of fixing a bad system.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

@OP: You realize that match score is set up poorly, based mostly on damage and selfish behaviors.

Match Score being modified, along with the broader award system, would go a long way toward making it a valuable go-to score system for tournaments and events.

[Rhent]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 04 March 2015 - 06:46 PM, said:

@OP: You realize that match score is set up poorly, based mostly on damage and selfish behaviors.

Match Score being modified, along with the broader award system, would go a long way toward making it a valuable go-to score system for tournaments and events.

All things being equal for a match, with everyone getting 1 kill a piece and everyone being lone wolfs except for one lance, lets say on the losing side who did the following:
-Stayed together and fought as a lance +points
-Used NARC/TAG to help their team mates get LRM strikes +points
-Spotted mechs first +points
-Countered ECM
-Shot down UAV's
-Capped

Would be the the guys with the most points. Those are the main team oriented points that were added. There are additional points for hit and run, solo kills etc as well. However, if you are going for max points, you are also going to do the team friendly behaviors because the other guys who are doing team friendly behavior have extra points to their score.

Edited by Rhent, 04 March 2015 - 07:13 PM.