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[trycksh0t]

ManDaisy, on 30 June 2012 - 06:22 PM, said:

Anyone consider that there might be some kind of conspiracy by other parties to slander MWO in order to protect their current player base?

Yeah, I can think of a few titles that will probably start to hemorrhage players when MWO goes live, especially from what I've heard from players over in the WoT area. Many of the guys I talk to are dropping as soon as MWO hits.

[SinnerX]

Skadi, on 30 June 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

if you cant understand what they will do just by looking at the names somethings wrong.

I guess I'm just dense. So can you explain to me exactly what $80 of ingame currency will buy? Is that like 4 mechs? A bunch of skins? More boosts? Any equipment at all, or is that off the table?

Well obviously you don't know. Let me put it a different way. How much will $80 buy? Will it last a month? Maybe three months, since it comes with three months of premium time? Is that the average they expect people to spend in a three month time period, or is that enough to buy "everything"?

[Stray Ion]

I voted no obviously. I plan on paying for a premium account too once my free months expire.

My reasons for doing so, it costs money to run a game and not just for development. For all I know all the founder money is being used to setup the servers for everyone to play on.

Would I feel bad if the Devs took a chunk of change for a bonus, HELL NO. IMO just for trying to resurrect a dead series they deserve to be credited.

I knew what the founders package was/is when I bought mine. It is just in game currency, a Mech with a cbill booster and 2 months of an additional cbill booster and XP booster.

Even from what I have seen in videos and read, this game will not be pay to win. Also, money does not buy hand eye coordination.

I can understand people not wanting to pay for something they loved without having seen it before. What I do not like are people who are either too illiterate or lazy to read and understand what the founders packs really are.

Also I am sure there are people out there who would love to have bought a founders pack but instead had to dump money into their machines just to play it.

[Arafinar]

Stray Ion, on 30 June 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

I voted no obviously. I plan on paying for a premium account too once my free months expire.

My reasons for doing so, it costs money to run a game and not just for development. For all I know all the founder money is being used to setup the servers for everyone to play on.

Would I feel bad if the Devs took a chunk of change for a bonus, HELL NO. IMO just for trying to resurrect a dead series they deserve to be credited.

I knew what the founders package was/is when I bought mine. It is just in game currency, a Mech with a cbill booster and 2 months of an additional cbill booster and XP booster.

Even from what I have seen in videos and read, this game will not be pay to win. Also, money does not buy hand eye coordination.

I can understand people not wanting to pay for something they loved without having seen it before. What I do not like are people who are either too illiterate or lazy to read and understand what the founders packs really are.

Also I am sure there are people out there who would love to have bought a founders pack but instead had to dump money into their machines just to play it.

Would be willin to bet that founder cash influx is already spent (or spent before they got it).

[SpyFuzor]

I voted no, and I agree with what many others have said. Boosts are a convenience item.

I've always thought of pay-to-win as being something unlocked with real cash that provides a performance boost that cannot be unlocked by simply playing the game. For example, last time I fired up APB Reloaded, there were several cash-only weapons that had distinct advantages over other weapons in the game. For me, that's clearly pay-to-win.

[Stray Ion]

Arafinar, on 30 June 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

Would be willin to bet that founder cash influx is already spent (or spent before they got it).

That was kind of my point, they need money to run this thing. I can only imagine what these forums alone cost them with no product available.

[Davoke]

Skadi, on 30 June 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

OBV our founders mech giving us a cbill boost gives us a massive leg up in battles, causing us to solo entire stars...
(/sarcasm end)

I do that anyway.

[Fgump]

Play to Win would mean you get to buy new weapons and mechs that non paying players cannot giving you an advantage. Boosts = I can still beat them just by playing more.

[Maleki]

Vote with the mighty $. So far the votes look to be very pro. If you don't like the minute bonuses offered in the form of sexy skins and quicker grinding, don't buy it. Frankly the only reason I didn't go legendary is I'm planning to buy a sexy version of the Cent and Grand Dragon the instant they appear as I don't like the jenner or hunch at all, though i might consider the Atlas in the future under another skin.

But the Catapult... Itsss our.... Preciousssss...

[Skadi]

SinnerX, on 30 June 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

I guess I'm just dense. So can you explain to me exactly what $80 of ingame currency will buy? Is that like 4 mechs? A bunch of skins? More boosts? Any equipment at all, or is that off the table?

Well obviously you don't know. Let me put it a different way. How much will $80 buy? Will it last a month? Maybe three months, since it comes with three months of premium time? Is that the average they expect people to spend in a three month time period, or is that enough to buy "everything"?

Read the topic AGAIN this isnt about buying cash, this is about buying boosters that give you a ingame bonus, a exp/cbill booster will give you what ever% you payed for, we dont know how many different varients there will be (such as 25%,50% or even 100%) but its overly easy to understand what a money or a exp booster will do, now please go troll somewhere else.

[Cid]

Risky, on 30 June 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

Since the big whiny babies who can't afford said boosts came to the gaming community.

Not making fun of poor people, but it is kind of true.

there will be a time when you will hopefully understand that a f2p game without freeplayers is the equivalent of an unsuccessful and dying game.

i am not saying boosts are a bad thing, but the game has to be fun and not too grindintense for people who don't want to spend money (right away or even not at all).

Edited by Cid, 30 June 2012 - 06:52 PM.

[Demoned]

trycksh0t, on 30 June 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Yeah, I can think of a few titles that will probably start to hemorrhage players when MWO goes live, especially from what I've heard from players over in the WoT area. Many of the guys I talk to are dropping as soon as MWO hits.

I'm a player of WoT and its the same there people that mainly whine about the MM, new topic every day lol they just haven't put the effort into knowing how the MM works, or how to take down the dreaded type59 which can be pened by a Tier 2 tank if u know where to aim lol

as to stop playing WoT i won't but it will be given lest game time when MWO hits the field

luckily i also got the same user name in WoT as i do here and like WoT I'll be focused on the scouting roll


and bk onto topic has any1 voted yes yet

[Squigles]

SinnerX, on 30 June 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

I guess I'm just dense. So can you explain to me exactly what $80 of ingame currency will buy? Is that like 4 mechs? A bunch of skins? More boosts? Any equipment at all, or is that off the table?

Well obviously you don't know. Let me put it a different way. How much will $80 buy? Will it last a month? Maybe three months, since it comes with three months of premium time? Is that the average they expect people to spend in a three month time period, or is that enough to buy "everything"?

According to the powers that be, that would be about 8 medium mech chassis's bought outright with RL cash. What that breaks down to in other equipment, who knows. So no, not even close to "everything", it would get you basically every variant of 2-3 medium mechs. I doubt I'll buy anything with RL cash other then extra hangar slots if those can be purchased.

[SinnerX]

Skadi, on 30 June 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Read the topic AGAIN this isnt about buying cash, this is about buying boosters that give you a ingame bonus, a exp/cbill booster will give you what ever% you payed for, we dont know how many different varients there will be (such as 25%,50% or even 100%) but its overly easy to understand what a money or a exp booster will do, now please go troll somewhere else.

My original point was that there's more to it than boosts. The post that sparked this topic says:

XenomorphZZ, on 30 June 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

keimosabe says:
03:44pm June 28 2012
AWESOME! Cannot wait to get back into my mech and... oh wait, it's "pay to win"
http://mwomercs.com/founders
never mind....

They complain about "pay to win" and link to the founder's page.
The ingame cash is on the founder's page.
The people could be complaining about the implications of the ingame cash.

But by all means, let's devolve into the "u don't share my view, u r trolling" mentality.

[Nairdowell]

Personally, when someone yells P2W at me, I try to follow their wishes and give it to them....

PPC 2 Windshield....

No? That's not what it means?

Next you're going to tell me F2P doesn't mean Flamer 2 Pilot..... dang....

[Skadi]

SinnerX, on 30 June 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

My original point was that there's more to it than boosts. The post that sparked this topic says:

They complain about "pay to win" and link to the founder's page.
The ingame cash is on the founder's page.
The people could be complaining about the implications of the ingame cash.

But by all means, let's devolve into the "u don't share my view, u r trolling" mentality.

honestly, i dont care if someone dosnt share my view, you also again failed to read the discussion is about the buying boosters, im sure we could have 10000000 topics about buying cash, hell if you want to argue about that go ahead and make one, but if you read the poll, or the topic, or what anyone else is saying youl see were discussing the boosters.
Now please PGI, add a ignore option to the forums so i dont haft to pay mind to people like this.

Edited by Skadi, 30 June 2012 - 06:57 PM.

[Arafinar]

Cid, on 30 June 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

there will be a time when you will hopefully understand that a f2p game without freeplayers is the equivalent of an unsuccessful and dying game.

i am not saying boosts are a bad thing, but the game has to be fun and not too grindintense for people who don't want to spend money (right away or even not at all).

Just a counter-point to that, this game (MWO) not having an economy based on player manufacturing
and trading(since there is no or will be no trading or manufacturing) will they be more predominant in keeping the
game alive than the players who pay for monthly premiums? hell maybe thats a topic for another thread......

[Fgump]

To put it simply paying gets you no advantage in the long run but the ability to fill your hangar and level up quicker. End game is the same thing no matter how much money you throw at it. You gain no Mechs and no weapons by paying money.

Same concept is used in League of Legends....


As for the dudes citing the founders page. I have to just throw out there that Battle Tech fans are loyal and love to support good ideas when thrown our way.... Gasp

Edited by Fgump, 30 June 2012 - 07:04 PM.

[Arafinar]

Skadi, on 30 June 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

honestly, i dont care if someone dosnt share my view, you also again failed to read the discussion is about the buying boosters, im sure we could have 10000000 topics about buying cash, hell if you want to argue about that go ahead and make one, but if you read the poll, or the topic, or what anyone else is saying youl see were discussing the boosters.
Now please PGI, add a ignore option to the forums so i dont haft to pay mind to people like this.

heres a map Profile/Edit Profile/Ignore Preferences there ya go

[Skadi]

Arafinar, on 30 June 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

heres a map Profile/Edit Profile/Ignore Preferences there ya go

Thank you sir, my bad for the oversite on that one.