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[Metus regem]

Johnny Z, on 13 March 2015 - 10:18 AM, said:

Well since Omni mech XL engines dont explode on side torso loss, I guess it is a good thing they get free CASE. The more I learn about "easy mode" the more easy it seems.

Johnny,

I understand your position against Clan tech, but I think it is really important that you do not just lump Omni's in that hole, as when (if) PGI does bring in IS Omni's, it is going to make it a really murky to just label all Omni's that way.

As someone coming to IS from Clans, I feel that IS is easy mode, with out much can be done to IS mechs, I don't have to try and squeeze things into limited slots as badly, or if I want a little more speed or a slower speed with more guns, then I can change the engine size. If I need a little more out of it, I can add Endo at the cost of space... Not to mention quirks, they are rather surprising what they can do.

[Johnny Z]

Metus regem, on 13 March 2015 - 10:23 AM, said:

Johnny,

I understand your position against Clan tech, but I think it is really important that you do not just lump Omni's in that hole, as when (if) PGI does bring in IS Omni's, it is going to make it a really murky to just label all Omni's that way.

As someone coming to IS from Clans, I feel that IS is easy mode, with out much can be done to IS mechs, I don't have to try and squeeze things into limited slots as badly, or if I want a little more speed or a slower speed with more guns, then I can change the engine size. If I need a little more out of it, I can add Endo at the cost of space... Not to mention quirks, they are rather surprising what they can do.

SO what your saying is that Omni mechs dont get free CASE?

I am just surprised Omni have so much going for them.

Half space Endo
Half space FF
2 slots instead of 3 Double heat sinks
XL engines that dont explode on side torso loss
Weapons that take up less space, weight less, have longer range, and do more damage.

Im sure Im missing something.

At this point I am in disbelief about two things. One that they were added to the game against unquirked Inner Sphere mechs and that Clan pilots have the nerve to troll any Inner Sphere pilot that raises questions about such lopsided game play.

[Pjwned]

Thorqemada, on 13 March 2015 - 07:59 AM, said:

Ammo Explosion Chance is 10% and it happens at times more ofthen and other times less often.
I know these streaks of Ammo Explsoions as well and often have it 3, 4 even 5 times in a pretty short time window and then nothing for days if not weeks.
At times i have the feeling that Ammo in the Arms blows up more often and avoid that if possible so i put Ammo into CT, Leg and ST without CASE and also allways into the Head.

I would just like to add that the ammo explosion chance is 10% assuming an ammo bin is even destroyed (which has a few luck factors right there) and that the ammo bin has any ammo left, so it's normally quite rare as a result.

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CASE still does fill up a Slot and has 10 Health imho so there is a slight chance that some of the damage to the internals is done to the CASE instead structure, ammo or weapons but a Double Heatsink would probably do better to fill up unused Slots in your Mech and pad your internal Hitpoints a tad up.

This seems to give the impression that you can protect your mech's internal structure by crit padding when that's not true, the structure always takes damage when the armor is exposed and critical hits are in addition to structure damage.

[Metus regem]

Johnny Z, on 13 March 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

SO what your saying is that Omni mechs dont get free CASE?

I am just surprised Omni have so much going for them.

Half space Endo
Half space FF
2 slots instead of 3 Double heat sinks
XL engines that dont explode on side torso loss
Weapons that take up less space, weight less, have longer range, and do more damage.

Im sure Im missing something.

At this point I am in disbelief about two things. One that they were added to the game against unquirked Inner Sphere mechs and that Clan pilots have the nerve to troll any Inner Sphere pilot that raises questions about such lopsided game play.

Clan Omni and Battlemechs will have:

Half space Endo
Half space FF
2 slots instead of 3 Double heat sinks
XL engines that dont explode on side torso loss
Weapons that take up less space, weight less, have longer range, and do more damage (in the case of lasers and PPC).

IS Omni's and Battlemechs, would have the current IS offerings... though the IS Omni's I think are going to be very underwhelming if they are treated like clan Omni's, if that they cannot swap out their engines, change their structure type or armour type as well as having hard locked equipment.

As for the addition of Clan tech when they did, based on all the information we have, that was IGP's doing not PGI. PGI (Russ) has stated that 3025 tech would be easier to balance. The thing about Clan tech, is that yes it has all of those advantages, but in MWO, the range advantage is debatable, as I have no problem getting in the face of clan mechs with my IS mechs, and forcing them to brawl at face hump distances while I have shorter burn time, and FLD weapons, while they have hotter weapons. I'm sure every Warhawk pilot would love to free up that entire LT if they could, or Summoner and Nova pilots would love to be able to pull out those next to useless JJ's...

[AcePaul]

There might be something going on with CASE and/or Gauss.
I was just in my Grid Iron, Std engine, Gauss and CASE in the torso, and died from a gauss explosion.

Edit from the other CASE thread: Devs confirm there is a CASE/Gauss bug.

Edited by AcePaul, 13 March 2015 - 11:08 AM.

[SuomiWarder]

It might be that OP was always dying from losing a side torso with an XL but without a reason why listed. Then had a few cases where the ammo actually exploded and a message was posted which got the OP's attention.

[C E Dwyer]

Yes its really useless

[Davers]

mogs01gt, on 13 March 2015 - 06:39 AM, said:

Move ammo to your legs. Running a Gauss jager simply tells everyone you already have an XL.

No, Gauss ammo doesn't explode, so you should try to pad the arms first.

[Alexander Miyamoto]

Ok, if CASE with XL-Engine is irrelevant on IS Mechs, WHY is PGI giving us both on the 2015 Customer Appreciation IS Mechs?
Both the Wolverine and the Zeus have XL-Engines and CASE... Sure, it's only 0.5 tons on the Zeus and 1 ton on the Wolverine, but still i don't get it...