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[Rossario x Vampire]

Telmasa, on 16 March 2015 - 09:50 PM, said:

Macros that allow you to bunny hop, fire gauss instantly, and boost MG dps to ridiculous levels are all flat-out cheats. There is no sane, rational justification for that unless your intention is to literally break the game in your favor.

Marco's are exploits when this will be fixed and become a banable offence?
This may be a great solution to some balance issues.

[Tahribator]

Who's Marco?

[Rossario x Vampire]

Tahribator, on 17 March 2015 - 04:33 AM, said:

Who's Marco?

Bunnyhopping Timbers and etc. You can read english?

[RG Notch]

Rossario x Vampire, on 17 March 2015 - 04:35 AM, said:

Bunnyhopping Timbers and etc. You can read english?

Polo!

[Kjudoon]

I think they mean Macros.... and the sad answer is never at this rate.

The other way they could go is just install all the macro "cheats" and call them a feature and everyone can cheat the same.

Oh, Game balance! Where art thou?

[Mawai]

Rossario x Vampire, on 17 March 2015 - 04:35 AM, said:

Bunnyhopping Timbers and etc. You can read english?

Lol ... I think the word you want is MACRO .. not the MARCO from your title or first post ... Marco is a proper name in English. I think most here can read English fine ... perhaps some can't quite write it exactly correctly.

[Ratpoison]

Rossario x Vampire, on 17 March 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

Marco's are exploits when this will be fixed and become a banable offence?
This may be a great solution to some balance issues.

[dario03]

-You can bunny hop without macros.

-I don't think any macro would let you truly fire gauss instantly. It could constantly charge/recharge or fire as soon as charged but not just one click no charge instant fire.

-How would a macro increase MG dps?

I could see some having issue with the instantly fired when charged gauss. But they have said they wouldn't be doing much or anything about macros. So I would say they should just make that a mode of gauss and let you set it in match and in the weapon groups section of mechlab. Same thing with custom chain-fire timings for things like AC boats.

Edited by dario03, 17 March 2015 - 04:54 AM.

[Insects]

A macro doesnt let you do anything you cant do with your mouse/keyboard.
It is just a script with button presses and timers. It cant react to game data or inject anything besides keypresses.
If the program is able to do those things then it is a hack program not a macro.

Every modern many-button gaming mouse has a macro feature, it can be essential to make use of the extra buttons.
So everyone already has these "advantages" available, if not then Autohotkey is free.

Feel free to try it. 90% you will just find it annoying to reconfigure between mechs and no better than pressing yourself.
About the only worthwhile use is to optimize chain fire of weapons (game chainfire adds 0.5s delay), but firing all at once is better than that, only reason to do it is to use AC2 and AC5 as machine guns to troll with cockpit shake and because it is fun for a short period.

[HammerForge]

"boost MG dps to ridiculous levels are all flat-out cheats"
I'm sorry, what???? Are we complaining that MGs are OP because you can make them fire faster by tapping the button. Credibility = Gone

No matter what you do, Gauss does not fire instantly, there is no getting around the charge up and cool down mechanic, although my guess is that they mean all they do is click and the macros takes care of the rest, but even so, not really a cheat.

Bunny hopping is cheating....but you can do it without a macro easy enough.

Edited by HammerForge, 17 March 2015 - 05:02 AM.

[Vandul]

Oh Lawd does anyone remember the Jager DD with 5/6 AC2's and the macro to fire them in succession? There was a video about it. The sound was awesome. You could hear the dang thing clear across Tourmaline.

[Egomane]

Tough luck, OP!

Quote

Q: My mouse/keyboard came with macro software that lets me emulate a series of clicks or helps me with some process. Is this allowed?

A: Yes, using macros as provided by 3rd party hardware vendors is allowed. Though the use of any modifications to assist with aiming, aimbots, wall hacks, or any attempt to give information or tactical assistance that other players would not have by default, is a serious violation of our Terms of Use and any account found to be using such software will likely be suspended or banned.

And as there are free tools out there, that can make everyone have their own macros, the answer is most likely "Never".

[Paigan]

Rossario x Vampire, on 17 March 2015 - 04:35 AM, said:

Tahribator, on 17 March 2015 - 04:33 AM, said:

Who's Marco?

Bunnyhopping Timbers and etc. You can read english?

How must one's mind look like if he repeatedly reads and writes a simple word wrongly and even attacks someone who humorously and very discreetly points to that error?
Can YOU read english? Tahribator is obviously very capable of it.

Also, addressing a chief developer by name in a thread title, as if he has nothing better to do than read and answer your posts, also tells a lot about behavior.

Makes me

Also: Poor Marco

Edited by Paigan, 17 March 2015 - 05:10 AM.

[Creovex]

Tahribator, on 17 March 2015 - 04:33 AM, said:

Who's Marco?

Marco Polo?

Macro might be the important word here....

Edited by Creovex, 17 March 2015 - 05:10 AM.

[Lostdragon]

PGI cannot stop macro use. There is no way for them to reliably detect it since it comes to the game as keyboard/mouse input. The only thing they can do is adjust mechanics so that they do not benefit from macro usage.

[Widowmaker1981]

Bunny hopping is simply mashing space bar - got a broken thumb or something?

MG macro apparently does increase dps marginally. MGs suck to start with though, so no biggie.

Gauss macro is BAD. sure you can make it fire with one button press, but it will still have a delay of 0.75s - its better to choose your time to release the shot during the window.

I don't bother to use macros, i know how (and have a G15) but cant be bothered. They dont help you much/at all. Stop complaining.

[Gilgamesh Drakenor]

I'm tempted to start calling them Marcos from here on out...

Anyway, it's unlikely anything will ever be done about them as, AFAIK, that would be very difficult to do from a technical standpoint. I also doubt they confer much of an advantage, save perhaps when combined with bunny hopping, which is a separate issue that shouldn't be conflated with marcos.

[Kjudoon]

Some people can't play the game without crutches I guess.

[Baron Blitz Fokheimer]

Just another uninformed muggle parroting the ignorance of others.

[Widowmaker1981]

ITT: People with little to no understanding of game mechanics and no understanding of how macros work (how would you expect PGI to tell the difference between someone pushing a key on their keyboard, and a macro simulating that same key press? To the game its the EXACT same input.)

Its like clueless idiots in government trying to make ISPs block websites - no understanding of the internet.

Edited by Widowmaker1981, 17 March 2015 - 05:36 AM.