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[Karl Streiger]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

don't forget the Longbow and Crusader. (Everyone always forgets the Longbow)

must be because the Longbow was TRO3026 - together with the Pract, Wolfhound and Raven.
But they also forget the Nexus, Raijin and Grand Crusader

[Bishop Steiner]

Karl Streiger, on 26 March 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

must be because the Longbow was TRO3026 - together with the Pract, Wolfhound and Raven.
But they also forget the Nexus, Raijin and Grand Crusader

well, none of those are HG Unseen.

[Karl Streiger]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

well, none of those are HG Unseen.

but VM industries - and they are "related" to Macross or at least inspired by Macross

Edited by Karl Streiger, 26 March 2015 - 08:30 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Karl Streiger, on 26 March 2015 - 08:30 AM, said:

but VM industries - and they are "related" to Macross or at least inspired by Macross

totally different copyright issues. The only ones that fell under the aegis are the IIC versions of the Macross Unseens. The VM ones were designed specifically for Battletech, but Btech decided to cut ties with ALL outside art to avoid potential future legal issues.

The Nexus, Raijin and such were redrawn by Loose, but the design actually didn't change, because those mechs were made under license, for the SNES MW video game

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 26 March 2015 - 08:37 AM.

[CocoaJin]

VtTimber, on 26 March 2015 - 04:21 AM, said:

See link-

http://www.ign.com/a...movie-franchise

Hope for the unseen?

They only sold the screen(film) rights correct? And even then, I'm willing to bet it's more of a lease.

[Apnu]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

don't forget the Longbow and Crusader. (Everyone always forgets the Longbow)

Yes I forgot the Longbow and the Crusader. The Crusader (and I wish we had it in MWO) has leg missile hard points! The Longbow wasn't in the original 3025 TRO, I don't remember when it was added to BT canon. Strangely, it made an appearance in MW4, but was radically redesigned and looked pretty good for what it was.

[Aethon]

I would love to see Illusions of Victory made into a Battletech movie; Solaris VII is, after all, a rather seedy place...and seedy places make for great movies.

For a trilogy, my vote goes to the Camacho's Caballeros novels (Close Quarters, Hearts of Chaos, Black Dragon; if you have not read those books, they are a lot of fun to read. They are sort of like a spaghetti western crossed with Battletech, and the result is just plain awesome; I feel these would come across great on the screen.

[Karl Streiger]

Want some epic stuff - without stestereotyps
Make a movie about the last months of Zeta
Or the struggle for New Avalon

[Bishop Steiner]

Apnu, on 26 March 2015 - 08:34 AM, said:

Yes I forgot the Longbow and the Crusader. The Crusader (and I wish we had it in MWO) has leg missile hard points! The Longbow wasn't in the original 3025 TRO, I don't remember when it was added to BT canon. Strangely, it made an appearance in MW4, but was radically redesigned and looked pretty good for what it was.

not sure where the stats first appeared, but artwork for it was in the Sorensons Sabre's Scenario Pack, Mechwarrior RPG 1st Ed, and I think the Rule of War. So 1986, 87, but IDK about the stats.

[Dulahan]

Lily from animove, on 26 March 2015 - 08:23 AM, said:

unfun person confimred

cmon, try it imagine those cuddly mechs in cars and planes style. xD good can't gett his out of my head

It’s kneejerk. You have no idea how many people I know STILL ***** about Disney and Star Wars, despite all evidence to the contrary, and conveniently forget that they do Marvel. There is a large subset who think anything Disney is just Kiddy cartoons and they can’t do serious at all.

[Bishop Steiner]

Aethon, on 26 March 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:

I would love to see Illusions of Victory made into a Battletech movie; Solaris VII is, after all, a rather seedy place...and seedy places make for great movies.

For a trilogy, my vote goes to the Camacho's Caballeros novels (Close Quarters, Hearts of Chaos, Black Dragon; if you have not read those books, they are a lot of fun to read. They are sort of like a spaghetti western crossed with Battletech, and the result is just plain awesome; I feel these would come across great on the screen.

I think they might be a little too over the top, and as we saw with Bond, Green Lantern and such, over the top is getting to be a hard sell without a strong foundation (Had GotG been the first Marvel film, lets face it, it would have been a commercial flop)

[Bishop Steiner]

Karl Streiger, on 26 March 2015 - 08:40 AM, said:

Want some epic stuff - without stestereotyps
Make a movie about the last months of Zeta
Or the struggle for New Avalon

My Choice?

Wolves on the Border. If successful, then Heir to the Dragon and Wolfpack make the Trilogy.

Dragoons are THE Flagship unit of all things Btech, and don't suffer from near as much plot armor as anything Stackpole wrote. The books are gritty and violent look at Btech, with lots of betrayal and high villains, but ones that don't come off as mustache twirling madmen.

It allows you to span the Tech Eras of the universe in the Trilogy, has potential for a really dark war driven set of movies or series after, with the Jihad, and a perfect candidate for an Agents of Shield/Agent Carter type tie in with any of the exploits of the Succession War era Dragoons, through the "Tales of the Black Widow", IMO is the natural Netflix/HBO tie in.

The hard part would be casting Natasha Kerensky, as you can't just paste a pretty face on here and call it good. She has to be believably tough as nails, and military bearing.
Scarlett Johansson, way too typecast (and expensive), Milla Jovovich just doesn't click (and again, too typecast) Emily Blunt? She was pretty good in edge of tomorrow?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 26 March 2015 - 08:57 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2015 - 08:43 AM, said:

I think they might be a little too over the top, and as we saw with Bond, Green Lantern and such, over the top is getting to be a hard sell without a strong foundation (Had GotG been the first Marvel film, lets face it, it would have been a commercial flop)

yeah the issue would be, what to start with to introduce the wide mass correctly into the universe of Mechs. It needs something that people without any background can get into it, thats catchy, thats makign sense and doesn't looks copied by thematic of other movies. or people will just think, oh its now transformers with pilots, "herp derp"

[1453 R]

Rhaythe, on 26 March 2015 - 05:08 AM, said:

That'd be a lot of political history to wade through for an entry-level movie. Gray Death might be safer, since they can just approach it from the merc point of view and deal with all house politics over time.

Also - Stackpoling:

Okay. As someone who grew up on the BattleTech books and who really enjoyed Mike Stackpole's various series, can I ask just what in the sam Shatner manhell everyone's problem with the guy is? Every time I see the remotest mention of Stackpole on these forums, I find a lot of frothing-mouthed hatred and references to 'Stackpoling' as some sort of horrible sin.

What the actual hell? Liek no srsly? What did the man do that makes all the TT folks hate him so badly?

[Lily from animove]

lol

Edited by Lily from animove, 26 March 2015 - 09:00 AM.

[CocoaJin]

1453 R, on 26 March 2015 - 08:55 AM, said:

Okay. As someone who grew up on the BattleTech books and who really enjoyed Mike Stackpole's various series, can I ask just what in the sam Shatner manhell everyone's problem with the guy is? Every time I see the remotest mention of Stackpole on these forums, I find a lot of frothing-mouthed hatred and references to 'Stackpoling' as some sort of horrible sin.

What the actual hell? Liek no srsly? What did the man do that makes all the TT folks hate him so badly?

Apparently, he is the Michael Bay of BT, causing every superficial man-child to fixate on the eye-candy instead of immersive, in-depth gameplay. Stackpoling is just an egregious and blasphemous, self-serving attention grab. Fusion gens don't up like many atomic bombs or micro-super Novas....and we certainly shouldn't see them every match...or even every few matches.

[Strum Wealh]

Bishop Steiner, on 26 March 2015 - 07:43 AM, said:

I'd probably cast Kengo Kora or Takeru Sato as Hikaru.
Maggie Q as Misa,
Minmay maybe Bingbing Fan ( I know, a little old, but it removes the creepy weird Pedo-Cougar dynamic from Rick, Minmay and Lisa, ya know?)?
Edward James Olmos too typecast an Gloval? (yes I know I am mixing Macross and Robotech names, lol)
Max, Roy and Ben I gotta think about. Ditto Miriya.
(And the rest of the Zentraedi.... need someone truly imposing with mas gravitas to pull off Breetai. Kyron? A Brash pretty boy..... hmmmm)

Jada Pnkiett Smith as Claudia LaSalle/Claudia Grant (the character is American)?

Max's surname, "Jenius", is nordic in origin & the character is described as having been born in Europe.
Are there any prominent (or semi-prominent) Swedish/Finnish/Danish (or so descended) actors that could fill the role?

Ben Dixon (the Robotech character) is American (despite the original Macross character, Hayato Kakizuki, being Japanese), and is noted for being something of a stereotypical "jock" (e.g. tall and strong, but not terribly bright).
I think The Rock might make a good Ben Dixon...?

So, who would play the Macross Operators/"bridge bunnies" (especially Vanessa... )?

[Scout Derek]

What we always tell Hamrony Gold about the Unseen Rights:

[LORD ORION]

orcrist86, on 26 March 2015 - 04:53 AM, said:

It is my deepest fear that a mw movie will be treated and filmed just like robot jox or worse. While mechs are awesome the movie would need a real good character drama first

This is why it needs to be a series done by HBO etc...
Sex, violence, intrigue and war robots ... winning combo.

[Bishop Steiner]

LORD ORION, on 26 March 2015 - 09:05 AM, said:

This is why it needs to be a series done by HBO etc...
Sex, violence, intrigue and war robots ... winning combo.

yes, told as Sci-Fi SoftcorePorn instead of of scifi schlock........

Or we could go a little more rebooted BSG and have something