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[Alienized]

im sorry to say but what i just experienced in the last battles made me explode furiously in battle chats.

i cant even stay calm at a single battle anymore.
there is just so much fkin crap going on in battles that it seems to be impossible to have a normal game anymore.

just some examples of my last battles:

driving a blackjack-1x is already hard enough but beeing the only one pushing a flank with all the assaults cowering behind you around a corner and them NOT moving is fkin awful.
even worse, they did NOT fire at the targets in front of you. they did NOT cover a retreat, no, they BLOCK the way back into a possible safety.
the only way to go was forward with a massively damaged center while the rest got splattered from behind.

next battle again with a blackjack-1x in frozen city. me and a medium moving to flank, spotting half the enemy team. team support? yeah. everyone camped 2 squares not moving a single inch.
so running under fire back behind these campers with their assaults to a long flank through C3 and the other side. moving up between 2 buildings, trading fire. want to get back in cover.
impossible. a fkin GHR is blocking the only way out. i couldnt help myslef but unleash 3 lasers of rage into his torso and move on. he then sniped with medium pulses at 500m. 83 damage on the scoreboard on the end.


some more not so detailed things:
atlas non champion mech, you expect that he knows some stuff since it costs quite alot.
but no, he fired his ac20 and medium lasers at 600+ meters and barely moved. he was not alone with that in the team.

conquest on tourmaline: enemy assault lance capping one far out cap point, get spotted early by me. i see my team camping the middle cap point but not moving forward to engage the enemy 8 mechs. they camp. and camp. until the enemy assault lance wrecked them.
some people tried to get the team moving but no, 3 mechs listened from 8.


i could go on like that for 2 fkin pages and it would not stop.

PGI can do whatever they want, its the players that fail so hard and nothing else.
no fix can solve the fact that people dont want to understand such simple things.

so i put one question in here to discuss:
are the players the main problem of MW: O ?

i clearly say yes since alot of players rather cry about OP clantech (lolz...really..),
OP missiles (sigh)
or literally anything else than just look at themselves to become a better mech pilot?

i know myself that i got lots of improvement to do myself (especially on beeing a more friendly person instead of telling everyone directly to the face what i think of them) but at least i try to see things more on a neutral perspective and telling people what went wrong in the battle straight away so it might get better next battle.

[MoonfireSpam]

Much irony here but

[Eboli]

All I can say is that I am currently in ELO Hell and know how you feel. Hopefully things improve when MM looks at you kindly again. In MWO there certainly seems to be a circle of life/events/changes.

To put a positive on it I can guarantee that your experiences has happened to everyone!

Cheers!
Eboli

[Appogee]

I think there are players who take MWO seriously and try their hardest to be smart and win in every battle, and there are players for whom this is just a game and who don't want to make an effort to do more than run and gun and hope for the best.

And they're both in the PUG queue together, the former getting pissed off when their team doesn't win, and the latter being bemused about the former even caring about it.

The short term nature of MWO - 7 minute battles where there's little scope for role warfare or genuine strategy - exacerbates the lack of carefactor from some.

[charov]

PUG life, OP. This game can be painful when you're unlucky with the MM and get thrown into low elo matches.

[Alienized]

am i taking things too serious? maybe.
i am not really caring much to win or not but some things just piss me off.
especially when i see all the things people want to have fixed.
things that arent broken.

thats the combination i really hate. neither CLAN or IS is much OP atm. it just needs adjustments.
but how should PGI balance things if alot of players have no idea what they are doing?

i actually care what happens to this game since i and many others spent alot of cash in here and i hate to see it go down the drain to people not giving a **** about anything.

[Ragtag soldier]

don't worry, the community can ALWAYS get worse.

[Weeny Machine]

Ha! I know how you feel.
I decided to grind some CBs and took my Trebuchet out. We got flanked and a guy and me bore the brunt of the attack but others were a little farther back and supported us and were obviously moving towards us to help out. In short: we held the flank. Suddenly he runs off, the enemy takes the chance and rushes me down. 3 second later I see from this person a message "Bush you need l2p".
Yup, obviously. I made the mistake of trusting someone in a PUG.

[Spheroid]

I suggest you switch it up and try a different a different weight class. Alternatively if you know your team is ********, fight your urge to be aggressive and hope that you can get some decent combat in the closing phase.

Also nothing wrong with BJ-1X. Its a good mech in my opinion.

[Alienized]

Spheroid, on 04 April 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

I suggest you switch it up and try a different a different weight class. Alternatively if you know your team is ********, fight your urge to be aggressive and hope that you can get some decent combat in the closing phase.

Also nothing wrong with BJ-1X. Its a good mech in my opinion.

i play the 1X because i can do alot with it and often decide battles with it.
i tried the QKD-5K which is the mech i played the most and propably best. same thing.
tried the huginn. 603 damage aint enuff when half the team cant reach 150 battles while i keep 5 enemies busy at once.

nope. its not the mech or wheight class and i KNOW that many people have the goddamn same problems. it can happen once or twice to have such useless teams but this time it just was too much.

[Mcgral18]

Welcome to the PUG LIFE.
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A wonderful example from the other day: A Lolcust beat 200 tons worth of Whales. It beat a full 10 times it's tonnage...because the Whales were part of the UnderHive. Or perhaps they simply used a Steering Wheel to control their Gundam.

[Triordinant]

Spheroid, on 04 April 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

Alternatively if you know your team is ********, fight your urge to be aggressive and hope that you can get some decent combat in the closing phase.

You're right, but that urge is REALLY hard to fight.

[MrZakalwe]

Alienized, on 04 April 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

im sorry to say but what i just experienced in the last battles made me explode furiously in battle chats.

Ut oh

Alienized, on 04 April 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

driving a blackjack-1x is already hard enough but beeing the only one pushing a flank with all the assaults cowering behind you around a corner and them NOT moving is fkin awful.

So you were out of position ahead of your assaults- gotcha

Alienized, on 04 April 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

even worse, they did NOT fire at the targets in front of you. they did NOT cover a retreat, no, they BLOCK the way back into a possible safety.

They moved into the way? at 50kph?

Alienized, on 04 April 2015 - 02:32 PM, said:

~the rest~

Sure champ- you attacked team mates, got out of position repeatedly and it was all somebody else's fault huehuehuehue

[Alienized]

Mcgral18, on 04 April 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

A wonderful example from the other day: A Lolcust beat 200 tons worth of Whales. It beat a full 10 times it's tonnage...because the Whales were part of the UnderHive. Or perhaps they simply used a Steering Wheel to control their Gundam.

i seen something very rare. from a pilot i know from some battles and that he is better than i am.
but he was driving a dire and said that cant play it very well and needs to get better in it.

thats what alot of people lack. the will to get better. they dont even see a point to think about themselves.

MrZakalwe, on 04 April 2015 - 03:02 PM, said:

Ut oh


So you were out of position ahead of your assaults- gotcha




They moved into the way? at 50kph?



Sure champ- you attacked team mates, got out of position repeatedly and it was all somebody else's fault huehuehuehue

are you really that bad in understanding or just one of the persons this thread is about?

[Primetimex]

Look OP, fact of matter is - as much as PGI likes crowing about balance it simply does not exist in most cases?

I was in the group queue the other night with several other very experienced players, and I was in my Grid Iron.

I spotted an LRM Atlas and decided to close in to take him out - knowing that in most cases they have little to no back up weapons. I closed him and whittle him down to bits with my little Gauss and ML and what do I see? He kept firing his LRM at me point-blank - way below 180m - I continued that way staring him down and still he kept firing his LRM.

TL:DR: Elo/balance never existed in MW:0, PGI is either too busy/not smart enough to recognise it. I could only imagine that LRM Atlas was a newbie and was very confused why a lot of his OP looking missiles is doing zero damage to this small little Hunchback in front of him!

[zagibu]

You have two options:
- play worse so that your godlike elo sinks and the game doesn't have to put you together with scrubs to make it fair for the other team
- play with people of whom you know that they are good

Both options are not great, though, because in the former, you are handicapping yourself, and in the latter, you will be clubbing seals mostly (although I get the vibe from your posts you might actually like this)

[Scyther]

So basically, you played poorly, expected your PUG team to cover and allow for your mistakes, expected people to predict where you were going and clear that path, exploded in rage when other people didn't help you recover from you poor positioning, and shot up a teammate who likely had no idea what you were doing.

You're right, the community is as bad as it can get. Because it's full of people like you.

[Davers]

Not much you can do about that in pug matches. Just play for your own amusement/improvement. Practice targeting components, positioning, torso twisting, effective trading, etc. Eventually the better you get, the better your team will get.

[Ted Wayz]

Oh, you are that guy OP. The guy always has the best plan and doesn't understand why people cannot seem to follow your infallible logic....in a pug drop.

Oh wait....

[Zensei]

Its not so bad, babies crying, thats what babies do, whine, cry, you know baby stuff. Never seen it this bad though. funny