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[Moon Master]

So I recently bought a bunch of HERO mechs during the sale.

I'm kinda frugal, so the idea of making extra C-Bills appeals to me.


Most of them I like, and a few I have been struggling with, trying to find a build I like.

The Grey Death, I was lost on.


So here it is.

Max XL engine. (=XL360)
UAC5 + 4tons ammo - LT
4MLs - Arms
336 armor (less on arms, but I'm thinking to go less on legs)


It does 116, and wrecks face.

I try to shield with arms.

Plus sometimes, I just stare at the GD in the mechbay, and touch myself......

[Telmasa]

Alright, I'll bite...why?

I honestly have a hard time telling myself I need an XL280 vs the XL255...

4ML + Gauss rifle/AC10+narc-or-srms >> UAC5 + 4ML.
*I hate single-mount UACs; they are a real drag when jamming RNG isn't your friend.

Still, I suppose it would be quite startling to see a Shadowhawk outrunning a Stormcrow for once.

[sneeking]

I have one of these but hardly used it, for some reason shawks can't seem to pull me away from my cents.

[MeiSooHaityu]

sneeking, on 07 April 2015 - 02:13 AM, said:

I have one of these but hardly used it, for some reason shawks can't seem to pull me away from my cents.

I'm in a similar situation. The Shadow Hawk was my favorite medium until the quirks happened, now the Centurion might be my favorite. I haven't played a Shadow Hawk in a LONG time.

[Moon Master]

@ Telmasa

Hmmmm, I really like this build, but ill try the ones you mentioned.

Thanks for your help.

[Moon Master]

@ Sneeking

Ya bro, out of all the heros I bought, my fave so far is the YEN LOW BOEEEIE

That Thing Is FUN!


Im running AC20 + 2 MPL

[Hit the Deck]

Telmasa, on 07 April 2015 - 01:31 AM, said:

Still, I suppose it would be quite startling to see a Shadowhawk outrunning a Stormcrow for once.

Like this?

I'm also still finding a build that "works" or "fits" for my GD and have been settling for the Gauss + 4 MLs but it doesn't work that well like on my 'Crows because of the big height difference between the ST and Hand weapon hardpoints

Edited by Hit the Deck, 07 April 2015 - 02:52 AM.

[627]

I settled with a gauss and 4ML, missiles are lackluster at best so go big or go home. UAC5 is too much facetime for me.

[sneeking]

At the moment im back in love with the cent D

Lbx and LpL lol

Its just too good

[Alistair Winter]

AC20 + 4ML with 1 JJ seems like a much better option to me.

I don't think I have any medium mechs with a single UAC5. Or even any heavy or assault mechs. A single UAC5 just seems like a bad option for me, in the current meta. Without the AC20, I'd probably install a couple of SRM's.

However, if it works for you, then it works for you. The Vindicator is hailed as the worst medium mech in the game, and yesterday I saw a guy absolutely wreck face in a Vindicator in multiple matches. So you never know.

[sneeking]

Yenlo with 2 uac5 is a option...

If you love fun

[MeiSooHaityu]

Alistair Winter, on 07 April 2015 - 03:16 AM, said:

However, if it works for you, then it works for you. The Vindicator is hailed as the worst medium mech in the game, and yesterday I saw a guy absolutely wreck face in a Vindicator in multiple matches. So you never know.

The Vindicator 1AA is still one of my favorites to play. 2 PPCs and a MLaser running at 116kph with great JJs makes it a ball to play.

The bummer for me is the Panther came out and the 10K plays very similar to the Vindi 1AA. I notice myself preffering the Panther over it.

And why can't the Vindicator 1AA get ERPPC quirks instead so I can, you know, protect myself at close range from lights? Oh I'm sorry, I have that 1 MLaser lol.

Anyway...

Vindicator 1R is OK. Throw in a PPC and some MPLasers and your golden. The Vindi 1X is a train wreck.

[Weeny Machine]

sneeking, on 07 April 2015 - 03:01 AM, said:

At the moment im back in love with the cent D
Lbx and LpL lol
Its just too good

What engine do you run?

[Kyp Durron]

I don't think Grayson Carlyle would appreciate it if you kept misspelling his name, the name of his regiment, and the name of his mech.

[sneeking]

Bush Hopper, on 07 April 2015 - 04:44 AM, said:

What engine do you run?

Only a 295, but I want ammo for my kidney buster and then there is the LpL....


Its still fast enough

I could back it off some and bias towards more hit but the D has always been about speed and this is the slowest iv ever built it to go.

Edited by sneeking, 07 April 2015 - 05:03 AM.

[sneeking]

BTW pgi I WANT MY BAY DOORS BACK !

[Mad Porthos]

Gray Death and Shadowhawks are nice, I've not played my Shadowhawks in a while, but on occassion a shadowhawk that focused more on sustained ballistic fire, rather than plink and hide could be interesting. For a while, 3xac2 shadowhawks were a thing, and they did wreck face, but that was more or less preclan. Still could do well if you always just came up, shot once or twice with 3xax2 for 6,12, mebbe 18 but then relocated completely to avoid the return fire. In a similar vein, a gray death with a uac5 might find a nice niche firing the uac5 twice, then relocate - keep range so that if you get a jam, you aren't out in the open uselessly spamming a single jammed weapon, if the first shot and second go, mebbe get a 3rd and 4th as you are backing away or dropping off a ridge but that's all.

Ironically, as some others have pointed out, the Yeng Lo Wang with 2uac5 can be really nice. Yes, Yeng Lo loses that cannon arm and you are neutered, but a YLW pilot keeps that arm tucked and if he's serious about an up close fight, he's circling so that it's on the far side of his body from opponent, playing the little turn and fire game, which you deliberately pay attention to when your enemy fires, so that you explose that arm when their shots are on cooldown, letting you then twist, BAM BAM with UAC5x2 then twist back.

Oddly, a uac5 has served me very well also in single, on centurions and the occasional shadowhawk, wolverine etc. If you know how to use it right, always keeping the off side away, you can keep it long into the battle and rather than spamming it and jamming, you just let it do it's consistent normal fire, only double tapping when you have the right heat levels or are trying to finish opened components. I've had some insane games where I just pumped consistent damage out of a uac5 on a centurion D, with good ammo and either 2mpl, 1 lpl, or an er large in the CT. Despite not having a high alpha, the uac5 on that Cent-D often really did work, hand in hand with the laser.

Edited by Mad Porthos, 07 April 2015 - 05:12 AM.

[LordMelvin]

My Shadowhawk 5M is still the love of my life (AC10, 2x LL). I haven't been able to justify getting the Gray Death since it really only provide two additional energy hardpoints and the c-bill bonus.

[Asrrin]

Yeah, this is about the best GD build I could come up with as well. Only change I have is to use the XL350 I got from my free victor and keep a hair more armor and ammo instead. the speed and torso twist are amazing, and it's a good skirmisher with the speed and UAC5.