Jaeger Gonzo, on 07 April 2015 - 09:58 AM, said:
Man I cant help you. You are an idiot. I am sorry, but real, we just can`t help. It was several times already explained to you and you still coming out with same weak bs. Comparing lvl tech 1 with lvl tech 2 and bringing even clans to this. Go read something on Sarna or something and dont bother us if you don`t know sh/it about subject we are talking about.
Why can't I bring tech levels and factions into this? Those are stock builds too you know. You're starting to sound like one of those purists that hates everything ever added to Battletech beyond 3025.
But to take the bait, there's also imbalances in even 3025 tech.
For example, the Griffin 1N and 1S are both tech 1 mechs, and the 1S variant is pretty easily superior. The big advantage is that it swaps out the PPC for lasers. Laser are superior to PPCs, because they do damage within 90 meters, don't have slow projectile speeds, and do more total damage (albeit DoT). The 4 extra heatsinks also allow it to sustain its fire a little bit longer. When it runs out of LRM ammo, it also has more backup energy firepower than the 1N. It's a better variant.
There's also that Locust 1M, with only 32 armor points spread across its entire body. Not to mention a very crappy loadout of 2 LRM5 with only 1 ton of ammo. It's just trash that can be stomped by virtually any other mech in the game, even any other stock. Well, except maybe the Mist Lynx variant that has only MGs and Flamers, that might be a closer fight.
The Catapult K2 is pretty easily better than the other Cats because of ammo independence and more armor.
The Jagermech just has garbage armor, which will get it blown apart quickly by people that know what they're doing. It's also equipped with AC/2s, which are bad weapons.
The Banshee 3E has the firepower of some mediums...
The Spider 5V is absolutely terrible, equipped with only 2 Medium Lasers and paper armor. I guess it beats some Locust variants, but that's not really an accomplishment to be proud of.
The Cicada 2A is equipped with 2 Medium Lasers, 1 Small Laser, and cardboard armor...it's just bad. The 2B is even worse because it has a Flamer in place of the Small Laser, and even LESS armor.
In general, most mediums in 3025 tend to be at the same speed as heavy mechs, while having less armor and less firepower (on average). Most of them are basically direct downgrades with no advantages. Most Blackjacks and Vindicators are especially guilty of this.
The newly added Grasshopper probably beats a large number of IS 3025 stocks because of having good armor, good speed for a heavy at the time, and decent laser vomit firepower with the heatsinks to handle it (at least somewhat).
I'm bored at this point so I'll pause it here. I actually went through and gave specific reasons as to why some stock builds were superior or inferior to others, while the only reasoning you've used is "But I was THERE man, I totally know it! It's all true because of reasons and I said so!"
That's not good enough to make an actual argument. You have to actually analyze the specific strengths and weaknesses of each chassis/variant to determine how they stack up against each other. For example, find me reasons to use that Locust 1M over any other mech.
Edited by FupDup, 07 April 2015 - 10:18 AM.