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[CK16]

RAGGGEEEEEE!


ok now with the semi rant: uh hmm

DO something to the clan auto cannons PLEASE! This is getting annoying already their shot damage sucks...I believe the AC are same caliber as the IS right? So why are they not doing the damage they should be....Either nerf the IS ones to our's (thus breaking ACs in general!) Or make ours do closer damage per shot as the IS ones.....AC 20 should be ok FINE be burst but 2 shots each 10 damage.....Still though at 200mm-ish each they should do 20 damage per round...GIve us per ton same shots as IS then...We may run out faster but oh well use in situations to finish off enemies as needed....would reduce daka spam I feel since wouldn't be able to carry tons of ammo to run all game...Make them truly what they need to be...Also LBX shot selection once again ADD IT!

[Carpenocturn]

I picked up a Dragon ACMONSTER on the Easter weekend and it really can be a Dakka machine. Blasting the CT's out of Direwolves and Crabs in one game and legging lights in another. I have only gotten through the basic skills to so I can't wait to pick up and level all 3.

IS AC = BOOMSHAKKALAKKA

[CK16]

Carpenocturn, on 07 April 2015 - 02:25 PM, said:

I picked up a Dragon ACMONSTER on the Easter weekend and it really can be a Dakka machine. Blasting the CT's out of Direwolves and Crabs in one game and legging lights in another. I have only gotten through the basic skills to so I can't wait to pick up and level all 3.

IS AC = BOOMSHAKKALAKKA

Yet another reason to either bring IS AC/UAC's to Clan style (burst fire all hitting for damage) . Or Bring Clan to be the damage damage PER ROUND (not burst)...I think it would affect Clan AC play cause if we had fewer rounds and couldn't spam...well sure we would do damage REALLY fast and hit hard as hell but if we either A) Had a long reload time (clips need to be filled ect.) or Less ammo..Meaning our bins run dry ALOT faster then the IS players (in some cases). I mean come on the only way to be good with clan AC/UAC's is have alot of them where a IS player can run one AC and do really well....I can achieve some of this success in a Storm Crow with a LBX20 but well its an LBX. I think it would help CW drops and Pug alike to have viable clan AC's as well as less laser vomit that I think both sides hate but live with cause its only way to do well it seem....YEA META!

[Kenyon Burguess]

reload times don't balance well when you are dealing with large numbers of uacs because the unspread alpha is far more likely to be fatal on first contact against xl engine filled side torsos

[CK16]

Geist Null, on 07 April 2015 - 02:56 PM, said:

reload times don't balance well when you are dealing with large numbers of uacs because the unspread alpha is far more likely to be fatal on first contact against xl engine filled side torsos

Well they need to figure something out for Clan AC's/UAC's to work better and be just as usable and be a good idea to pack one on with some lasers...But they do need to increase clan AC shot damage this burst = full damage is a joke and just why bother!....No pin point damage not able to do long range engagements like IS can with theirs...(well relativity speaking about AC's)....I am wanting to just bring one AC5 on say m timber and have it actually be worth the weight to bring it...cause lets be honest...why bring that when a ER LRg or med laser is better!...Thus we laser boat then to counter that IS laser boats...bring meta....this could break some laser meta if they would make clan AC's do decent pin point damage for once...

[MischiefSC]

If Clans had PPFLD ballistics to go with high damage, long range but high heat lasers it would destroy balance. Again.

Low heat ACs let you continue to pump out accurate damage at a very low heat while you cool your lasers. The ability of Clan mechs to boat ACs + energy would make that crazy stupid wild broken. That's exactly why they didn't get PPFLD.

[Will HellFire]

DRG-1N

2AC5+ 50% cooldown= 4AC5s = KGC-0000

'nuff said

[Joey Tankblaster]

Let me get that right. Clans have....

• superior speed
  
• superior hitboxes (SCR, TBW)
  
• Clan-XLs
  
• High damage/range lasers
  
• overall lighter weapons

I can see only one or two weak issues with clans: Heat and ACs
The Clan-AC, when boated, is extremely good.

So taken together - where's the win button - u want them buffed in addition to all those points mentioned above?

[Mar-X-maN]

My builds are all very similar. I use a combination of lasers, ultra ACs and LRMS or SRMS. When I compare my Atlases with my Daishi its like this; 2 LLs, 1 UAC5, LRM20 VS. 2 ERLLs, 2 UAC10, LRM 15. whereby the Atlases carry almost twice as much missile ammo.

So they are somewhat equal and they play somewhat the same just with a different balance. However when I run out of LRMS
I feel more powerful in the Daishi. The dual UAC10 are four times as powerful in my book. Honestly I see nothing wrong with
clan ACs.

However I strongly feel UAC jamming should be removed. Instead a slightly higher refire rate compared to normal ACs would be optimal to justify the additional weight. As it stands I think UACs are unreliable at best. Alas, you can migitate that a bit if you have more than one installed. This is why the Daishi feels better UAC wise.

[Elizander]

I don't know man... I've been bringing my CUAC20 HBR out lately and I've been getting so many more kills than usual and I have this empty feeling inside once I run out of ammo and have to rely on my 4 CERML.

[Dino Might]

Elizander, on 08 April 2015 - 07:11 AM, said:

I don't know man... I've been bringing my CUAC20 HBR out lately and I've been getting so many more kills than usual and I have this empty feeling inside once I run out of ammo and have to rely on my 4 CERML.

Have you tried it with a UAC-10? It doesn't jam as often. I double fire it all the time and only jam a few times per match. It puts out about the same amount of firepower over time with the ROF and the jam chance. You also get more ammo and tonnage for heat sinks/other weapons.

I really like my Clan UAC-10s. Run them on Hellbringer, Adder, and Timber

[AztecD]

OP cant shoot for s#i$

[Darwins Dog]

Clan ACs are lighter, smaller, and have longer range, so no. You can't have single slugs. Not for you.

If you want to give IS ACs more damage or some other buff, then we can talk.

[AztecD]

Carpenocturn, on 07 April 2015 - 02:25 PM, said:

I picked up a Dragon ACMONSTER on the Easter weekend and it really can be a Dakka machine. Blasting the CT's out of Direwolves and Crabs in one game and legging lights in another. I have only gotten through the basic skills to so I can't wait to pick up and level all 3.

IS AC = BOOMSHAKKALAKKA

Yea until you loose that arm and then you are just a crappy mech running around with no backup gear since the ac dakka dakka takes up most of your space in ammo

[Repasy Cooper]

AztecD, on 08 April 2015 - 08:45 AM, said:

Yea until you loose that arm and then you are just a crappy mech running around with no backup gear since the ac dakka dakka takes up most of your space in ammo

Exactly.

All my compatriots just need to learn to target the arm first lol... Instead they spread damage trying to hit the center torso.

[AztecD]

Repasy, on 08 April 2015 - 08:49 AM, said:

Exactly.

All my compatriots just need to learn to target the arm first lol... Instead they spread damage trying to hit the center torso.

So the Dragon is an elite armor tank, is that what you are saying because dragons tank for s#it

[Repasy Cooper]

AztecD, on 08 April 2015 - 08:53 AM, said:

So the Dragon is an elite armor tank, is that what you are saying because dragons tank for s#it

No... I'm saying that the people who fear dragons have no reason to fear them...

[CK16]

But yet what Mech besides a Dire whale can really use the AC/UAC's well? Maybe with the Cauldron Born will be a better mech (give it ballistic quirks like the dragon or Jager!). Right now though clan AC's are almost useless though unless boated....2 IS vs 2 Clan AC's...the IS are FARRR batter then the clan...

[MischiefSC]

Yep. The Clan version is smaller and lighter however, plus all clan missiles are superior and cermls are incredible. Mixed ppfld ACS and clan energy/missile firepower would be crushing.

So, nope. Cuacs are dot for a reason.

[Richter Kerensky]

Mar X maN, on 08 April 2015 - 03:19 AM, said:

My builds are all very similar. I use a combination of lasers, ultra ACs and LRMS or SRMS. When I compare my Atlases with my Daishi its like this; 2 LLs, 1 UAC5, LRM20 VS. 2 ERLLs, 2 UAC10, LRM 15. whereby the Atlases carry almost twice as much missile ammo.

So they are somewhat equal and they play somewhat the same just with a different balance. However when I run out of LRMS
I feel more powerful in the Daishi. The dual UAC10 are four times as powerful in my book. Honestly I see nothing wrong with
clan ACs.

However I strongly feel UAC jamming should be removed. Instead a slightly higher refire rate compared to normal ACs would be optimal to justify the additional weight. As it stands I think UACs are unreliable at best. Alas, you can migitate that a bit if you have more than one installed. This is why the Daishi feels better UAC wise.

Ah the classic LRM Atlas, king of kings.