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[SinnerX]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

MPS paid me to play WOW,(If you have ever been an MPS member I was MPS_Mongoose) Blizzard offered me a position when I was the first player in WOW to cap out all the classes. If you played WOW in the first year of release you probably know me or have heard of me. I turned down the position with Blizzard because it was a volunteer position and I was already being paid to play it. Now if one of the kiddies wanna run their mouth about me stating I was offered a position by Blizzard and turned it down, I still have the letter in a shoe box, somewhere. I will be more then happy to have the wife look for it, but I will want paid for wasting my time proving reality to kiddies

Ask and ye shall receive! Two "kiddies" in one post, and he divulged the details of his mysterious employment. After only 14 pages. I'm totally convinced, I hope the devs follow all his ideas to the letter.

[Mongooser]

Kradoc, on 02 July 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

o/ mongooser.

Ive got a few points to argue with you. First off, I would disagree that you are a 'professional' gamer. If you are being payed to beta or alpha test a game, then you're either an employee of said company or a contractor.

A professional gamer is not someone that is paid to play games, its someone who lives off of his earning from tournament winnings or supported by sponsors. For comparison, a school bus driver is paid to drive a bus, but is not a 'professional' driver. A proffesional snowboarder, or a nascar driver would be the flip side. There are certain connotations to the 'professional' label.

Secondly, your professed implication that being the first to unlock every tank in WOT is, honestly, nothing to anyone who's played WOT except as an indication of your time commitment. Even if you did give your account away, the fact is that you would personally have played the majority of the games on that account. Frankly, I've never considered anyone with below a 55% win rate to be 'good' at world of tanks. 51% is pretty much 'I have no real impact on the fights I'm in.' If you want to compare WOT pages, by all means check mine out.

That being said, I fully agree with all the points you have about the problems with WOT. The lack of game types, lack of maps, the blatant soviet bias, the bad tiering system (MM), the money grubbing that they do (T-59 anyone?), and crappy weight system really makes the game 'bad' in my opinion. Its still fun on occasion, but its basically a nonstop grind to the top, where its one dimensional CW play because the only viable tanks in CW are tier 10s.

And I agree that MWO and WOT have alot of comparisons between the two. I am also worried about how MWO will turn out.

But until we get into beta, and start being able to accurately judge the problems it will face, your entire post is mostly irrelevant, except as troll magnet.

Cheers,
Kradoc

http://worldoftanks....0105595-Kradoc/

And yea, I stopped playing after about 5 months, after playing through CB and on. I, and my friends, saw the writing on the wall.

Was never paid to alpha or beta test any game.(although was offered a position as a paid tester, but was low income)

[RazrWolf]

SinnerX, on 02 July 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

Ask and ye shall receive! Two "kiddies" in one post, and he divulged the details of his mysterious employment. After only 14 pages. I'm totally convinced, I hope the devs follow all his ideas to the letter.

What I love is that he claims that if we played the first year of WoW that we know who he is... I mean seriously, he claims people in this thread are kiddies yet he cant seem to get over himself.

[Skadi]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

MPS paid me to play WOW,(If you have ever been an MPS member I was MPS_Mongoose) Blizzard offered me a position when I was the first player in WOW to cap out all the classes. If you played WOW in the first year of release you probably know me or have heard of me. I turned down the position with Blizzard because it was a volunteer position and I was already being paid to play it. Now if one of the kiddies wanna run their mouth about me stating I was offered a position by Blizzard and turned it down, I still have the letter in a shoe box, somewhere. I will be more then happy to have the wife look for it, but I will want paid for wasting my time proving reality to kiddies

congratulations, the only way you gained sucess is through games... also just because your Efamous dosnt mean anything, i know one of the worlds top arena warlocks irl, ive met swifty (hes a ******) and honestly dont care, stopped playing months ago.

[Natedog]

Still have some work to do Mongoose before you reach his level. Just saying.

Edited by Natedog, 02 July 2012 - 03:58 PM.

[Skyefox]

OP: You're all immature, since everyone is on my case about what I've said and how I've said it. My line of thinking and statements cannot possibly be wrong. I will not rescind or apologize for anything, as my esteem is so bloated that I cannot perceive myself as being wrong about anything.

Everyone else: Dafuq?

[Skadi]

Natedog, on 02 July 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

Still have some work to do Mongoose before you reach his level. Just saying.

[Bodha]

Sug, on 02 July 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

I dunno about endgame but i'm hoping for some kinda Tukayyid event eventually.

I'm hoping for planet based battles where guilds/clans can dump down X number of chips representing their forces, move them around and then have battles with an opposing force. Ideally I would like to see this be 4-5 battles/skirmishes in one evening rather than spread out over days. Winners get some bragging rights and some perks, while the losers hopefully learn something.

A couple of ideas for rewards would be something like minor bonus to the faction, with a modest bonus for the clan/guild that did the battle. Maybe slightly lower repair bills for a day or two, or more c-bill earnings, or cheaper costs to purchase a particular bit of tech. The main thing though is allowing the various social groups in the game to have a way to do battle with other social groups.

Heck I would be happy with merc board, or some method to throw the gauntlet down and challenge another group. If the dev's have several planets setup for people to battle over you could have multiple maps tied together and commanders could move forces around like in the battleforce game. When forces meet you battle.

[Skyefox]

Bodha, on 02 July 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

Heck I would be happy with merc board, or some method to throw the gauntlet down and challenge another group. If the dev's have several planets setup for people to battle over you could have multiple maps tied together and commanders could move forces around like in the battleforce game. When forces meet you battle.

Solaris, please and thank you.

[Mongooser]

Arafinar, on 02 July 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

heh bet this thread ends up on somethingawful like deer antlers

LOL, when I posted on the WOW forums after being the first to cap out all the classes, including crafting and all done on an active pvp server, the thread had over 1300 posts and 750,000 views, this ain't even a drop in the bucket, but it is amusing. Since I will not post again after I finish reading everyones questions/comments this thread will die by tommorow.

[Damion Sparhawk]

Skyefox, on 02 July 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

OP: You're all immature, since everyone is on my case about what I've said and how I've said it. My line of thinking and statements cannot possibly be wrong. I will not rescind or apologize for anything, as my esteem is so bloated that I cannot perceive myself as being wrong about anything.

Everyone else: Dafuq?

at least noone can say you're delusional.

[Famine52]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

NDA's have a time frame attached to them, I would not compromise the NDA, until the NDA was expired. Why so many people are concerned if I am or am not a professional gamer is beyond me, the thread was started to ask questions/make suggestions about the game. out of curiosity, why does it matter to you if I am a professional gamer or not?

... Maybe it has to with you creating a thread boosting about yourself as a perfessional gamer? Ever think of that?

It wasn't a suggestion/question as much as it was "I am someone that wastes more time in my life playing video games then anything else, so my opinion matters more (Period)".

Sorry, but paid gamers are complete jokes. And the fact that you made a thread like this proves it.

[Mongooser]

Adridos, on 02 July 2012 - 03:30 PM, said:

Actually, no. They weren't the best suggestions in the world, but it's normal.

Problem is, you tied a few general hates into one thread:

1st: You compared this game to WoT, a comparrison noone likes after we got to know the game a bit better.
2nd: You joined the crowd of people asking for beta key, once again a thing noone likes.
3rd: Some of your suggestions directly contradict what devs are trying to achieve and that is not very appretiated here.
4th: And lastly, the tone you used was innaproprite to the situation (having no info on the game, yet supporting major changes).

With all this in mind, I hope you won't make such a mistake again...

1. Coke does not like being compared to Pepsi either.(Pepsi is better)
2. Did not think this was a big deal, I officially rescind my request for a beta key.(it will have an open beta anyway and I am still making money on the RMAH in D3. Since I no longer want a beta key do all the kiddies leave now?
3. Such as what?
4. I did not know I can convey a tone in a text message.

[Glythe]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

“An individual that is paid RL money, by a company, to play a game.” Having said that, I would like to give my 2 cents on what I have learned about the game so far. I am not in the beta yet, as I actually just found out about the game a few days ago, however I did fill out 100% of the application.


Anyway I hope the game does well, actually really miss Mech Warrior. Where is my beta invite? I would just jump in on the preorder offers, but with me it is either all or nothing and if I play MWO then I would opt for the $120 package. History however has taught me to hold my money until I can at least see the game. Hopefully you wil have a little open beta before release, in case some of us don't make it into the closed beta.

Sorry bro from this point on only founders are getting beta invites. If you are in fact a professional gamer shouldn't your label be able to afford a $120 buy in? Your post had some decent points but you could try to organize your thoughts a little better next time. Also you might try a little less hubris. If you had done 5 minutes of research you would have realized there is no pay to win for MWO. That alone is going to steal probably 30% of the USA audience from WoT.

[Mongooser]

Damion Sparhawk, on 02 July 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

Thought I should mention this for your benefit since you seem to be under the impression that Pirahna is the developement team responsible for the game, while I'm sure they are contributing to the developement, the actual 'braintrust' for the game is Smith and Tinker, which semantics aside is as much FASA as it is reasonably possible to call them without actually -being- FASA, so yes, Pirahna has no background with MW but then noone has had anything to do with the franchise since microsoft bought the license and made that crappy xbox game. S&T are probably the only people who us old school MW fans would recognise as capable of reinvigorating the franchise and after a decade of waiting I'm just happy it's finally coming about XD

The first intelligent post I have read in this thread... So they have power over the creative content? Why would FASA not go to Microsoft? Is FASA getting a cut of any of this?

[GrizzlyViking]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

O.K. Well that answers alot... I guess I am a little confused why the devs would not have an end game. I mean the story line is really there for it.(this house versus that house, mercs for hire, etc...) Hopefully there will be some kind of purpose to play the game, I mean more then just people killing each other.(which mankind has never needed a reason for doing anyway) I mean maybe have teams that compete to win the "super bowl" and have seasons or something.

It is hard to imagine that a war game, where the "purpose" of the game is for one side to defeat his opponent by killing off his enemy's soldiers forcing surrender could survive...or is it? The basic premise is much like the game of Chess. People have been playing Chess since 600 A.D. and are still playing it today. While Chess is not played in a Mech, the general make up of the game is quite similar in that it requires a good strategy and solid understanding of the dynamics of the game to be successful. There will be more dynamics involved in planetary warfare in MWO than in Chess, but I do not expect the end game to be some kind of Universe domination scenario like some people may be thinking of simply because the Devs have already stated that certain key planets are not going to be available to be attacked in order to maintain the integrity of the storyline.

While playing to be the best may not be a motivator for some I expect the majority of people that play MWO will be motivated by being the best and it will keep them playing MWO like people keep playing Madden. Why do I think that? Here is why..."As of 2010 Electronic Arts has sold more than 85 million copies of Madden NFL, and as many as two million in one week, for more than $3 billion in total sales." Playing to be the best in day to day or year to year matches may not be the thing you like, but there are plenty of people that do like it as evidence by the Madden numbers. It will be a bit more complicated and involved than Madden and I expect MWO will satisfy most everyone that is interested in playing. Just hang in there and wait to see how things develop.

Edited by GrizzlyViking, 02 July 2012 - 04:33 PM.

[optimal pain]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

You are incorrect, search the thread, prem vehicles in WOT get 50% more exp, if you still cant face reality email wargaming and ask them yourself.

No they don't. Stop embarrassing yourself.

And it's really easy to prove: if they did, my max exp for IS-6 and Type-59 would be much higher than the current 2200 and 2000 respectively (roughly equal to non-prem tier 8 tanks max exp).

http://worldoftanks....7-optimal_pain/

Edited by optimal pain, 02 July 2012 - 04:26 PM.

[Damion Sparhawk]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

1. Coke does not like being compared to Pepsi either.(Pepsi is better)
2. Did not think this was a big deal, I officially rescind my request for a beta key.(it will have an open beta anyway and I am still making money on the RMAH in D3. Since I no longer want a beta key do all the kiddies leave now?
3. Such as what?
4. I did not know I can convey a tone in a text message.

1. I'm sure Coke doesn't like how when you ask a texan for a coke they ask 'what kind, pepsi dr.pepper mountain dew...?'
2. asking for a beta key on the forums is kinda like asking your kid brother for a raise on your allowance, he neither has the ability to impliment it, nor is likely to encourage you unless he gets one too.
3. only thing I specifically saw was the comment about tier increasing but then I kinda got bored reading after page twelve.
4. Obviously you've never texted a valley girl.

[Vraesh]

... that makes the thousands of MMO gold farmers/sellers from the Far East "professional gamers".
Not sure you want to be claiming to be one of those. LOL

[Skyefox]

Mongooser, on 02 July 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

The first intelligent post I have read in this thread... So they have power over the creative content? Why would FASA not go to Microsoft? Is FASA getting a cut of any of this?

FASA doesn't exist anymore. One of the creative leads from FASA (Jordan Weisman) formed Wizkids as well as Smith & Tinker.