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[Metus regem]

Scout Derek, on 15 April 2015 - 08:44 AM, said:

Well, if you factor the weapons into the MWO game now, when the weapons only fire if they are within range of doing full damage...

Well a stock Leopard has 80 SHS, or 70 DHS for the upgraded one... so heat still isn't an issue for them...

Armour wise:

Normal Dropship.
Front: 140 (280 for MWO)
Side 130/130 (260/260 for MWO)
Aft: 100 (200 for MWO)

Pocket Warship:

Front: 339 (678 for MWO)
Side: 254/254 (508/508 for MWO)
Aft: 169 (338 for MWO)

These are just the stats for the Leopard, not something you want to trade shots with, it'll win....

[Scout Derek]

Metus regem, on 15 April 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

Well a stock Leopard has 80 SHS, or 70 DHS for the upgraded one... so heat still isn't an issue for them...

Armour wise:

Normal Dropship.
Front: 140 (280 for MWO)
Side 130/130 (260/260 for MWO)
Aft: 100 (200 for MWO)

Pocket Warship:

Front: 339 (678 for MWO)
Side: 254/254 (508/508 for MWO)
Aft: 169 (338 for MWO)

These are just the stats for the Leopard, not something you want to trade shots with, it'll win....

Unless you had a full 2 lances of Behemoth IIs

[Metus regem]

Scout Derek, on 15 April 2015 - 08:56 AM, said:

Unless you had a full 2 lances of Behemoth IIs

Still not a grate anti-air platform...

http://www.sarna.net...h_II_Heavy_Tank


Better anti-air...

http://www.sarna.net...Defense_AA_Tank


But really the best thing to take those Leopards on...


http://www.sarna.net...pace_Fighter%29
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Deathstalker
http://www.sarna.net...pace_Fighter%29


Well you get the idea...

[Scout Derek]

Metus regem, on 15 April 2015 - 09:26 AM, said:

Still not a grate anti-air platform...

http://www.sarna.net...h_II_Heavy_Tank


Better anti-air...

http://www.sarna.net...Defense_AA_Tank


But really the best thing to take those Leopards on...


http://www.sarna.net...pace_Fighter%29
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Deathstalker
http://www.sarna.net...pace_Fighter%29


Well you get the idea...

Oops, I meant the Stone Rhino IIs...

my bad.

[Metus regem]

Scout Derek, on 15 April 2015 - 10:53 AM, said:

Oops, I meant the Stone Rhino IIs...

my bad.

Yea... still not a good anti-air platform...

• Stone Rhino 2 In order to plug holes in their touman, Clan Goliath Scorpion scientists revisited the Behemoth. Like Clan Smoke Jaguar before them, they upgraded and improved upon the design. This version used an Extra-light Engine to mount a pair of Thunderstroke Series 2b Gauss Rifles along the top of the 'Mech. Each arm carried a Series 4D-2 Heavy Large Laser, a Series 22a Heavy Medium Laser, and a General Systems Heavy Small Laser. It retained the shock-absorbing cowls of the original. Another pair of Heavy Mediums protected the rear of the 'Mech. A head-mounted Shield-3 Anti-Missile System defended against missiles, while an Anti-Personnel Pod in each leg discouraged unarmored infantry. This design had jump jets, nineteen tons of armor, and a meager sixteen double heat sinks.^[5] BV (1.0) = 2,531,^[6] BV (2.0) = 3,107^[7]

[Scout Derek]

Metus regem, on 15 April 2015 - 10:55 AM, said:

Yea... still not a good anti-air platform...

• Stone Rhino 2 In order to plug holes in their touman, Clan Goliath Scorpion scientists revisited the Behemoth. Like Clan Smoke Jaguar before them, they upgraded and improved upon the design. This version used an Extra-light Engine to mount a pair of Thunderstroke Series 2b Gauss Rifles along the top of the 'Mech. Each arm carried a Series 4D-2 Heavy Large Laser, a Series 22a Heavy Medium Laser, and a General Systems Heavy Small Laser. It retained the shock-absorbing cowls of the original. Another pair of Heavy Mediums protected the rear of the 'Mech. A head-mounted Shield-3 Anti-Missile System defended against missiles, while an Anti-Personnel Pod in each leg discouraged unarmored infantry. This design had jump jets, nineteen tons of armor, and a meager sixteen double heat sinks.^[5] BV (1.0) = 2,531,^[6] BV (2.0) = 3,107^[7]

Hmm.. was thinking from MW4: Mercs. That railgun...

[Metus regem]

Scout Derek, on 15 April 2015 - 11:28 AM, said:

Hmm.. was thinking from MW4: Mercs. That railgun...

it's more about hitting a vary, vary fast moving target... It's hard as hell to hit a Jet fighter with a ground based turret, especially a single shot one...

[CDLord HHGD]

Instead of three Leopards dropping wave after wave of mechs to the slaughter (pick a side), they SHOULD have had ONE Union dropship LAND and be that side's "spawn camp deterrent".

Get to see some cool in-game model of a union.
Fix spawn camping.
Make more sense......

It's a win/win.

[Metus regem]

cdlord, on 15 April 2015 - 12:05 PM, said:

Instead of three Leopards dropping wave after wave of mechs to the slaughter (pick a side), they SHOULD have had ONE Union dropship LAND and be that side's "spawn camp deterrent".

Get to see some cool in-game model of a union.
Fix spawn camping.
Make more sense......

It's a win/win.

Let's just go whole hog and use an Overlord...

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Overlord

[Apnu]

To solve the Invasion / Counter Attack spawn camping problem, they should park a Union or Overlord drop ship at the LZ and have the waves come out that way. Let them have all the TRO PPCs and AC20s and let them punish any defending player trying to spawn camp.

Like what cdlord said above.

Edited by Apnu, 15 April 2015 - 12:19 PM.

[CDLord HHGD]

Metus regem, on 15 April 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:

Let's just go whole hog and use an Overlord...

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Overlord

Only if we can also get 32v32 matches (and MUCH bigger maps).

[LordMelvin]

Roadbuster, on 14 April 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

I would be more hyped about that Marauder...

Oh and the standard armament is:
3x PPC
6x AC5
6x LRM20
12x ML
5x LL
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Union

and for the standard Overlord:
6x PPC
2x AC20
6x AC5
3x LRM20
12x ML
6x LL
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Overlord


But I agree. I don't want to see the A-3 warship escort version:
11x ERPPC
12x Gauss
12x ER-LL
16x ML
4x A-LRM20
4x LPL
10x MPL
oh, and not to forget the two capital missile launchers...

662pt alpha without capital missiles...nah, don't want to get near this.

662 pt alpha. For when you absolutely want to make sure that firestarter is dead.

[Burktross]

Hearing about Unions? Where?

[Scout Derek]

Metus regem, on 15 April 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:

Let's just go whole hog and use an Overlord...

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Overlord

Oh yes, Big brother is inbound...

Prepare to burn, militia forces of contested planet!

[Shatara]

Metus regem, on 14 April 2015 - 07:54 PM, said:

I have never seen a Drop ship knocked down by a LB-2X.... I think small craft have special rules that prevent that...

Admitedly, I've never seen it either. However, that's more because not many play Battletech with dropships, and those that do are not generally keen on letting anyone take potshots at them.

So I decided to try it in MegaMek. Here's the first pass:

Quote

Leopard (3056) ([color="c06060"]DerpSherp[/color]) must make 1 control roll(s) (23 damage +1).
The base target is 8 [5 (Base piloting skill) + 2 (Atmospheric operations) + 0 (aerodyne dropship) + 1 (23 damage +1)].
Roll #1, (23 damage +1); needs 8, rolls 7 : out of control
*Leopard (3056) ([color="c06060"]DerpSherp[/color]) loses 4 elevation*

She came in at altitude 5, so isn't a crater (yet), but will be picking trees out of her grille, and every one of her 9 crew is going to need a change of underwear. Had she actually attacked, she would have lost one more. She proceeded to fly off the map out of control, probably the only thing that saved her from lawn darting.

[Burktross]

LordMelvin, on 15 April 2015 - 12:24 PM, said:

662 pt alpha. For when you absolutely want to make sure that firestarter is dead.

No kill like overkill, amirite?

[William Mountbank]

Joseph Mallan, on 15 April 2015 - 03:05 AM, said:

I wonder which Thunderbolt that is coming out of the Dropper?

Looks a bit like the Phoenix 9SE, but with the cockpit on the other side?

[Scout Derek]

William Mountbank, on 16 April 2015 - 12:07 AM, said:

Looks a bit like the Phoenix 9SE, but with the cockpit on the other side?

Picture may have been flipped, so that it looks like the cockpits on the left instead of the right.

[Wan Chu Minge]

With the run up to Mech'CON' I thought I would just bump some old family favorites.. or, as I like to call it,

'Other stuff that never happened'

Episode 1.. Union Class Dropships.




Tune in next time.. 'Same Mech-Time, Same Mech-Channel'

[Bombast]