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[DjPush]

I have to appologize to some players. In the past couple of days my behavior in game has been less then exemplary. I have been on one heck of a losing streak and I fear that I may have taken it out on the community. I have said some things in VOIP or all chat that I am not very proud of.

If you have dropped with or against me in the last few days.....

I am sorry.

I will try to not do that in the future.

[MechWarrior3671771]

We all fall. The true character of man is what he does *after* he has fallen. You've admitted you screwed up, apologized, and are making an effort to be better in the future. Well done.

<hat tip>

[Joseph Mallan]

DjPush, on 14 April 2015 - 08:53 PM, said:

I have to appologize to some players. In the past couple of days my behavior in game has been less then exemplary. I have been on one heck of a losing streak and I fear that I may have taken it out on the community. I have said some things in VOIP or all chat that I am not very proud of.

If you have dropped with or against me in the last few days.....

I am sorry.

I will try to not do that in the future.

Takes a big person to say that DJ. We are not always our best, and it takes character to do something about it when we realize.

Respect.

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 15 April 2015 - 03:43 AM.

[MeiSooHaityu]

No problem DJ, we all have our moments of weakness. Frustration and anger (especially on a losing streak) can ge the best of us, and has gotten the best of me on many occasions (can we say weekend challenges requiring wins).

It's all good.

[STEF_]

I remember to have met you this week, and yes, your piloting behaviour was strange: in Crimsom, with your dire in open water, charging the enemy at 56 kph... killed in 1-2 minutes. Quite strange reading yout stuff in chat after dead.
I don't know about VOIP, since I only use ts.

But it was in Puglandia, so I really don't care. Sometime, I also drop there for suiciding or trolling.

Your post honors yourself

o7

[SamMaster]

I do not post often (as you see in my profile), but I must say this: It is big of you to admit fault and ask for an apology. You deserve a O7.

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Your post honors yourself

Exactly!

Edited by SamMaster, 15 April 2015 - 05:06 AM.

[DjPush]

Thank you!

[Tastian]

I've dropped with and against you several times in the past days. I think you even killed me once. I don't think I remember hearing anything bad from you. But I wish everyone could honestly self reflect and see when they are being jerks. Good form.

[CygnusX7]

Was in at least one match with or against you in the last few days.
If you did have a bad attitude I didn't notice it over everyone else's bad attitude.

[Stoned Prophet]

DjPush, on 14 April 2015 - 08:53 PM, said:

I have to appologize to some players. In the past couple of days my behavior in game has been less then exemplary. I have been on one heck of a losing streak and I fear that I may have taken it out on the community. I have said some things in VOIP or all chat that I am not very proud of.

If you have dropped with or against me in the last few days.....

I am sorry.

I will try to not do that in the future.

1: if you break a plate and then apologize, does this cause the plate to b3 repaired? Nope. 6our apologies are worthless words. Actions count, words do not.
2: if a video game makes you angry enough to say things to strangers that you later feel the need to apologize for your abusive actions, you have srrious anger issues and should see a psychologist.

[Burktross]

o7

Stoned Prophet, on 15 April 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

1: if you break a plate and then apologize, does this cause the plate to b3 repaired? Nope. 6our apologies are worthless words. Actions count, words do not.

The action is fixing a verbal dispute with a verbal apology. What else is there to do? You can buy a new plate, but then what would you do for this?

Stoned Prophet, on 15 April 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

2: if a video game makes you angry enough to say things to strangers that you later feel the need to apologize for your abusive actions, you have srrious anger issues and should see a psychologist.

Not necessarily. You're assuming the degree to which he did it falls upon (presumably) your own values-- he could have a much lower threshold for apologies.

[Metus regem]

DjPush, on 14 April 2015 - 08:53 PM, said:

I have to appologize to some players. In the past couple of days my behavior in game has been less then exemplary. I have been on one heck of a losing streak and I fear that I may have taken it out on the community. I have said some things in VOIP or all chat that I am not very proud of.

If you have dropped with or against me in the last few days.....

I am sorry.

I will try to not do that in the future.

It takes a man to admit when he is wrong, and for that, I give you this Classy Dinosaur.

[Votanin FleshRender]

Stoned Prophet, on 15 April 2015 - 12:44 PM, said:

1: if you break a plate and then apologize, does this cause the plate to b3 repaired? Nope. 6our apologies are worthless words. Actions count, words do not.
2: if a video game makes you angry enough to say things to strangers that you later feel the need to apologize for your abusive actions, you have srrious anger issues and should see a psychologist.

If you break a plate and do not apologize, you're just an *******. Contrition means something.

And I'm there with you, DJ. As badly as I was insulted when I started playing, I've slowly become what I hate. Had my worst losing streak in 6 months a few nights ago. Just wanted the 2x xp on my 3 Zeuses. Started at 11:30 at night. Got first two by midnight. Had to get up for work at 6:30. Got my win on my 3rd Zeus after five hours, at 5:00 AM. 5 hours of losses. At some point it was just stubborness "I ain't going to bed until i get a win, dammit!" And, yeah, I was exhausted and pissed and said a lot of things I feel badly about, in retrospect. (although, the game on tourmaline when fully half my team, including the assaults, chased a locust halfway across the map, I take nothing back there).

Maybe time for a bit of a break.

[Shae Starfyre]

If it was you who blew off my Urbie's arm, I will never forgive you. If it wasn't, good for you.

Just handle it like (insert racial creed here) with one hand on the drink and the other shooting an AC20 in someone's arse!

I was going to say, the Irish, because of ... um, arse, and drink, but then I realized, they don't have any Ac 20's

I think i'm in the wrong thread....MEDIC!

Edited by Aphoticus, 15 April 2015 - 01:30 PM.

[Skarlock]

I am probably one of the biggest ragemonsters in the game when it comes to losing or stupid things happening. If I was one of the guys who streamed on twitch, they would have to rate it for mature audiences only because of the prolific, creative, and deeply insulting stuff I'm saying when I'm in front of my computer playing MWO, and I'm getting frustrated. Considering that taking damage in this game frustrates me, and I take damage probably 20 or more times a match... well, yeah... Things would get extremely ridiculous really fast.

That really isn't a problem though. The problem is when you actually *share* those words with others. Saying things can let you vent emotionally but actually telling people how you feel with no filter at all never helps the situation. Like the old saying goes, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. So rather than contribute to the problem, learn to self-censor and just say nothing if you're about to go off on someone. If you try to give someone advice and they insult you, just drop the whole conversation right there and forget about it. No matter how hard you verbally shred someone, it won't quell your anger, it won't really make you feel better, and it sure as hell won't make them suddenly play better and smarter.

I call this game "the salt mine" because there's almost no limit to the level of rage and frustration people have over the most trivial of things. Adding to the sodium levels only makes it worse. I'm no saint, and I have been part of the problem more often than I like to admit, but I at least try to avoid negativity and complement players on a job well done. Why? One, because I almost NEVER see anyone else do it, and two, it actually makes the game more fun for others, and enjoyable for myself.

[Stoned Prophet]

Burktross, on 15 April 2015 - 12:53 PM, said:

o7

The action is fixing a verbal dispute with a verbal apology. What else is there to do? You can buy a new plate, but then what would you do for this?


Not necessarily. You're assuming the degree to which he did it falls upon (presumably) your own values-- he could have a much lower threshold for apologies.

Disagree.
1: A verbal apology is not an action, any more than saying you wish someone would die counts as killing them. All his apology is for is to make HIM feel better, not anyone else. Its self serving and transparent.
2: No, as it matters not what level he feels the need to apologize for is, I stated "if you feel the need to apologize for it" which means it is based PURELY on what HE thinks is bad enough to apologize for. Please read the ACTUAL words I wrote BEFORE replying. thanks.
Furthermore, HE HIMSELF states he was made VERBALLY ABUSIVE to other players over a VIDEO GAME. Thats not my subjectivness. That is a solid fact presented by himself, and if a GAME makes you ABUSIVE, you have ANGER ISSUES. That is a FACT.

Votanin FleshRender, on 15 April 2015 - 01:02 PM, said:

If you break a plate and do not apologize, you're just an *******. Contrition means something.

And I'm there with you, DJ. As badly as I was insulted when I started playing, I've slowly become what I hate. Had my worst losing streak in 6 months a few nights ago. Just wanted the 2x xp on my 3 Zeuses. Started at 11:30 at night. Got first two by midnight. Had to get up for work at 6:30. Got my win on my 3rd Zeus after five hours, at 5:00 AM. 5 hours of losses. At some point it was just stubborness "I ain't going to bed until i get a win, dammit!" And, yeah, I was exhausted and pissed and said a lot of things I feel badly about, in retrospect. (although, the game on tourmaline when fully half my team, including the assaults, chased a locust halfway across the map, I take nothing back there).

Maybe time for a bit of a break.

No, breaking the plate makes you the (redacted). Your "contrition" or lack thereof does not take away from the (redacted) nature of the action.

Edited by Stoned Prophet, 15 April 2015 - 01:37 PM.

[Votanin FleshRender]

Stoned Prophet, on 15 April 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Disagree.
1: A verbal apology is not an action, any more than saying you wish someone would die counts as killing them. All his apology is for is to make HIM feel better, not anyone else. Its self serving and transparent.
2: No, as it matters not what level he feels the need to apologize for is, I stated &quot;if you feel the need to apologize for it&quot; which means it is based PURELY on what HE thinks is bad enough to apologize for. Please read the ACTUAL words I wrote BEFORE replying. thanks.
Furthermore, HE HIMSELF states he was made VERBALLY ABUSIVE to other players over a VIDEO GAME. Thats not my subjectivness. That is a solid fact presented by himself, and if a GAME makes you ABUSIVE, you have ANGER ISSUES. That is a FACT.


No, breaking the plate makes you the (redacted). Your &quot;contrition&quot; or lack thereof does not take away from the (redacted) nature of the action.

You've never broken something by accident? How does that make you an *******? Makes you clumsy but not an *******. Lack of contrition is what makes you the *******. It shows you don't care that you did something wrong. Only perfect people do nothing wrong and, well, let's face it there's no perfect people in the world.

[Banditman]

Dota 2 has an interesting mechanic in their community where after every match you get an opportunity to rate your teammates. It might be a bit difficult to implement here since the teams are so much larger, but it is interesting.

[Burktross]

Stoned Prophet, on 15 April 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Disagree.
1: A verbal apology is not an action, any more than saying you wish someone would die counts as killing them. All his apology is for is to make HIM feel better, not anyone else. Its self serving and transparent.
2: No, as it matters not what level he feels the need to apologize for is, I stated "if you feel the need to apologize for it" which means it is based PURELY on what HE thinks is bad enough to apologize for. Please read the ACTUAL words I wrote BEFORE replying. thanks.
Furthermore, HE HIMSELF states he was made VERBALLY ABUSIVE to other players over a VIDEO GAME. Thats not my subjectivness. That is a solid fact presented by himself, and if a GAME makes you ABUSIVE, you have ANGER ISSUES. That is a FACT.


No, breaking the plate makes you the (redacted). Your "contrition" or lack thereof does not take away from the (redacted) nature of the action.

And what constitutes abuse is ambiguous. He could've either went on a full rant or called somebody a {Richard Cameron}-- we don't know which one.

As for "actions," what action, then, can count in place of words? If apologies don't matter, than his angry words don't matter, and the whole point of this is void.

[Telmasa]

What these guys said.

Though as far as I'm concerned any player who relies on consumable usage as the main form of gameplay can burn at the stake.