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#1 Vandul

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:21 PM

That maybe if we had a choice of pilots then maybe we could self balance the IS/Clan queue's without flooding CW with alt account trial mechs, contract hopping (based on Russ' approval, natch) and other issues that have reared their ugly heads the last few days.

I buy the mech packages. I am a loyal 1st FWG Marik player. Those Clan mechs sit idly by while I sit in queue for 30+ minutes waiting for a match.

Yes, its a feature suggestion, and it fits in with a previous suggestion I made (see sig), but what say you?

Would you like more than one pilot so you could bridge the IS/Clan chasm without spreading your wealth over Alternate accounts?

Would you pay for extra pilots?

Is this proof that crack wont smoke itself?

/discuss

#2 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:38 PM

I'd be ok with having multiple characters on a single account...
But if one character is clan, and another IS, I don't think that they should be able to use the the same mechs as the other (they can't in CW obvious, but in solo queue it's be nice to see the separation there too.)
I'd be OK if both characters shared the same c-bill pool though. However that might change.
I dunno, really. But sure. Characters would be neat.

But then PGI support will need to figure out how to deal with all the tickets requesting alternate accounts be merged into one. I don't know if that's going to be an issue. I hope not, especially since they told us they can track your main account if you're using an alt account to hack with.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 26 April 2015 - 01:41 PM.


#3 Vandul

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:40 PM

View PostMoonUnitBeta, on 26 April 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

I'd be ok with having multiple characters on a single account...
But if one character is clan, and another IS, I don't think that they should be able to use the the same mechs as the other (they can't in CW obvious, but in solo queue it's be nice to see the separation there too.)
I'd be OK if both characters shared the same c-bill pool though. However that might change.
I dunno. Could be handy.

But then PGI support will need to figure out how to deal with all the tickets requesting alternate accounts be merged into one. I don't know if that's going to be an issue. I hope not, especially since they told us they can track your main account if you're using an alt account to hack with.

Many MMO's use this method. Cant play a Hordie and an Alliance at the same time and all that. I would be fine with being locked out of IS when im playing my Clammer.

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:46 PM

View PostVandul, on 26 April 2015 - 01:40 PM, said:

Many MMO's use this method. Cant play a Hordie and an Alliance at the same time and all that. I would be fine with being locked out of IS when im playing my Clammer.

Thoughts on how to deal with that separation on existing accounts? Your thread doesn't cover how you could separate or move already own mechs to the other character.
Able to move mechs between characters freely? A fee involved? Automatically moves clan mechs to the new character - what if we make a second clan character - shared mechs between like-faction characters?


Thoughts on merging pre-existing alt accounts with main accounts?
Alt accounts get merged into main account as characters - how to separate mechs on alt account? IS mechs automatically get moved into main account, and all clan mechs move into alt account?

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 26 April 2015 - 01:48 PM.


#5 Vandul

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:49 PM

View PostMoonUnitBeta, on 26 April 2015 - 01:46 PM, said:

Thoughts on how to deal with that separation on existing accounts? Your thread doesn't cover how you could separate or move already own mechs to the other character.
Able to move mechs between characters freely? A fee involved? Automatically moves clan mechs to the new character - what if we make a second clan character - shared mechs between like-faction characters?

Well, I could, but it wouldnt matter. lol

I did ask about merging accounts once. I was told it "wasnt possible, currently" so maybe its something they are thinking about.

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 01:51 PM

View PostVandul, on 26 April 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:

Well, I could, but it wouldnt matter. lol

I did ask about merging accounts once. I was told it "wasnt possible, currently" so maybe its something they are thinking about.

Ah, yeah it seems like there's a lot to think about in that regard... like if my alt account owned mastered HBK-4G and so did my main account, what would happen to the XP I spent on my HBK-4G? free GXP? :D haha. tricky stuff. hmm. I hope they're able to sort something out though.

#7 Levi Porphyrogenitus

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 03:32 PM

I'd love to see an automatic bifurcation of the pilots on an account. Every player should have a Clan and an IS pilot, and should be able to switch freely between them.

The alternative for now is to run faction pure, and create an alt for whichever faction your main is not. This is less than ideal.

#8 TELEFORCE

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 03:33 PM

I wouldn't pay for the feature. I think it should be included for free.

#9 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 06:10 AM

View PostVandul, on 26 April 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:

That maybe if we had a choice of pilots then maybe we could self balance the IS/Clan queue's without flooding CW with alt account trial mechs, contract hopping (based on Russ' approval, natch) and other issues that have reared their ugly heads the last few days.

I buy the mech packages. I am a loyal 1st FWG Marik player. Those Clan mechs sit idly by while I sit in queue for 30+ minutes waiting for a match.

Yes, its a feature suggestion, and it fits in with a previous suggestion I made (see sig), but what say you?

Would you like more than one pilot so you could bridge the IS/Clan chasm without spreading your wealth over Alternate accounts?

Would you pay for extra pilots?

Is this proof that crack wont smoke itself?

/discuss

I have a Clan account. Why can't that work?

I know other games have several saves per account but dude, separate Alts so you don't have to switch Factions.

#10 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 06:17 AM

We should have had multiple profiles for one account (well at least 1 clan and 1 IS).

My guess is the UI doesn't support it and they wanted to launch the Clans before UI support could be made for multiple profiles.



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Posted 27 April 2015 - 06:54 AM

I just use one account for everything, so I don't have to grind for GXP and C-Bills twice.

#12 Ngamok

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 07:05 AM

View PostVandul, on 26 April 2015 - 01:40 PM, said:

Many MMO's use this method. Cant play a Hordie and an Alliance at the same time and all that. I would be fine with being locked out of IS when im playing my Clammer.


on PvE servers you can, it was the PvP servers that didn't allow it.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 07:12 AM

View PostMoonUnitBeta, on 26 April 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

I'd be ok with having multiple characters on a single account...
But if one character is clan, and another IS, I don't think that they should be able to use the the same mechs as the other (they can't in CW obvious, but in solo queue it's be nice to see the separation there too.)
I'd be OK if both characters shared the same c-bill pool though. However that might change.
I dunno, really. But sure. Characters would be neat.

But then PGI support will need to figure out how to deal with all the tickets requesting alternate accounts be merged into one. I don't know if that's going to be an issue. I hope not, especially since they told us they can track your main account if you're using an alt account to hack with.


That's an insanely bad idea. The game is already burdened with horrific amounts of grind (relative to the content actually available), your suggestion doubles that grind for no justiable reason. If you wanted to restrict yourself to only using mechs you bought as Pilot A or Plot B for immersion, go right ahead. But for the love of mechajesus mwo does not need more grind.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 07:19 AM

View PostQuxudica, on 27 April 2015 - 07:12 AM, said:


That's an insanely bad idea. The game is already burdened with horrific amounts of grind (relative to the content actually available), your suggestion doubles that grind for no justiable reason. If you wanted to restrict yourself to only using mechs you bought as Pilot A or Plot B for immersion, go right ahead. But for the love of mechajesus mwo does not need more grind.

You cray-cray? What's bad about it? All that's happening is we're separating clan and IS mechs between two names on the same account to give reasonable excuse for when you want to play clan or IS in CW.
I'm not seeing where the extra grind is. Currently, players who have an alt account have a worse griond. What we're suggesting LESSENS the grind because characters would share C-bills, where as players who have alt accounts right now are completely separate... And for S&G's, lets make GXP global across characters as well.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 27 April 2015 - 08:13 AM.


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 08:40 AM

I agree with this idea. I started a 2nd account to do IS side CW, but on my main account I've got all these IS mechs I hardly ever use, heroes and the entire Phoenix Overlord mech pack just sitting there collecting dust, and next to nothing on my alt account. If I could put that all under one account and freely share those resources it would be pretty sweet.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 06:57 PM

I agree this should be a consideration as CW goes forward. if you have friends on IS side, and some on Clan side, wouldn't it be nice to be able to easily move from one to the other for game night?

They should go all out. You select your Pilot name for each side. When you choose which pilot when you log in, there are seperate music tracks, seperate mechlab backgrounds(seperate mechlab UI colors etc would be even sweeter) basically it would be a prime excuse to inject some really soild lore based visuals and sound into the game for each side.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 10:02 PM

View PostVandul, on 26 April 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:

That maybe if we had a choice of pilots then maybe we could self balance the IS/Clan queue's without flooding CW with alt account trial mechs, contract hopping (based on Russ' approval, natch) and other issues that have reared their ugly heads the last few days.

I buy the mech packages. I am a loyal 1st FWG Marik player. Those Clan mechs sit idly by while I sit in queue for 30+ minutes waiting for a match.

Yes, its a feature suggestion, and it fits in with a previous suggestion I made (see sig), but what say you?

Would you like more than one pilot so you could bridge the IS/Clan chasm without spreading your wealth over Alternate accounts?

Would you pay for extra pilots?

Is this proof that crack wont smoke itself?

/discuss

Sooo.... Make it EASIER to jump factions? No penalty, just get more money on the same account under different names? I cannot support that. Seems too easy to exploit.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 10:07 PM

View PostStoned Prophet, on 27 April 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Sooo.... Make it EASIER to jump factions? No penalty, just get more money on the same account under different names? I cannot support that. Seems too easy to exploit.


What? 3 days at 1,150,000 cbills hasn't done anything to improve the situation, otherwise they probably wouldn't be giving free faction jumps.

Edited by Xetelian, 27 April 2015 - 10:07 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 10:20 PM

Two character on a account? I think this is a good idea.
It would help Clan / IS population balance.
But only on one condition:
The character are separated from each other!
Two C-bill account, and two Mechhanger, two XP account.
One character for Clan and one for IS.
No Connection.

Greetings Phex

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 10:40 PM

View PostStoned Prophet, on 27 April 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Sooo.... Make it EASIER to jump factions? No penalty, just get more money on the same account under different names? I cannot support that. Seems too easy to exploit.

I'm not sure what people are thinking that will be exploitable..





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