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[El Bandito]

...the future Mauler Hero (Hero, not the Prime variant) will be a missile boat. I've been asking for a Hero Assault Missile Boat, aka "C-Bill printer" for over a year, but so far, none of the IS Assault Hero mechs can boat LRMs with satisfactory amount (closest thing is Hellslinger but it sucks in that role). As I repeatedly stated, only such Hero mech, or a better fleshed out CW will open my wallet, and I still hold to that pledge.

Now with announcement of the Mauler and its 4 missile hardpoints (each at least 10 tube size), my hopes are raised once more. Perhaps at long last, PGI will let me spend money on something I like.

For simplicity's sake, Lets call the Hero Mauler by the name HAMIB, an acronym of Hero Assault Missile Boat.

What should the hardpoints of Hamib look like? Since all Maulers have well mixed 10 hardpoints, we will go with that but will modify it slightly:

LEFT ARM 1 Energy, 1 AMS
LEFT TORSO 1 Ballistic, 2 Missile (can be 3 Missile instead)
RIGHT TORSO 1 Ballistic, 2 Missile (can be 3 Missile instead)
RIGHT ARM 3 Energy

There we go. Left arm is used for TAG, both torsi are mainly be used for missile weapons + light ballistics, and last but not least, the meta 3 energy slot on the right arm. Naturally Hamib should focus on getting generic missile quirks over other weapons.


My wallet is ready and sent a tweet to Russ, hope he considers it. Ball is on PGI's court.

Edited by El Bandito, 01 May 2015 - 07:45 PM.

[Vandul]

BLR-1S called and isnt really pleased with your post.

[Scout Derek]

Dude, its all about the 6 AC/5 DAKKA DAKKA.

Who need Lrm boats when the ebon jaguar comes along?

[orcrist86]

Typically pgi makes the prime variant the hero one. I sent Russ a tweet to confirm. The 1r is the prime model of the mauler.

[El Bandito]

Vandul, on 30 April 2015 - 06:16 PM, said:

BLR-1S called and isnt really pleased with your post.

HERO. MECH. The Hero part is important. 1S is not a Hero mech and does not have +30% C-Bill bonus.

Scout Derek, on 30 April 2015 - 06:17 PM, said:

Dude, its all about the 6 AC/5 DAKKA DAKKA.

Who need Lrm boats when the ebon jaguar comes along?

1. 6 AC5 build will have only 2 tons for ammo even with 280 Std. Highly impractical.

2. We already have the 4x UAC5 King Crab and 6x CUAC5 Direwhale for maximum Dakka.

orcrist86, on 30 April 2015 - 06:33 PM, said:

Typically pgi makes the prime variant the hero one. I sent Russ a tweet to confirm. The 1r is the prime model of the mauler.

I am NOT asking for any prime variants. I am asking for a Hero mech. Like the Dragon Slayer, or Misery.
How the heck was my post not clear enough on that?

Edited by El Bandito, 01 May 2015 - 04:15 AM.

[Revis Volek]

El Bandito, on 30 April 2015 - 11:03 PM, said:

HERO. MECH. The Hero part is important. 1S is not a Hero mech and does not have +30% C-Bill bonus.




1. 6 AC5 build will have only 2 tons of ammo with 300 std. Highly impractical.

2. We already have the King Crab and Direwhale for maximum Dakka.




I am NOT asking for any prime variants. I am asking for a HERO MECH. Like all the other IS chassis.

You will not get a HERO MECH with the MECH PACK, they release PRIME (I) or ® variants and they have the same bonus'.

Just because it isn't under the HERO tab means its not for you huh?

[El Bandito]

DarthRevis, on 30 April 2015 - 11:06 PM, said:

You will not get a HERO MECH with the MECH PACK, they release PRIME (I) or ® variants and they have the same bonus'.

Just because it isn't under the HERO tab means its not for you huh?

Read the post again. I am not asking for it in the mech pack. I am asking for it when they inevitably release a Hero variant later on, like all other IS mechs.

[Rashkae]

Maybe they're bringing in the Todesbote

http://www.sarna.net...Custom_Variants

[Nik Reaper]

We might see that but seeing as how long it took to get hero mechs for the phoenix mechs , I wouldn't hold my breath for it , unless you can hold it good and long .

[El Bandito]

Nik Reaper, on 01 May 2015 - 12:33 AM, said:

We might see that but seeing as how long it took to get hero mechs for the phoenix mechs , I wouldn't hold my breath for it , unless you can hold it good and long .

All I have to do is wait, and I am totes ok with that. The wallet will always be there, just not yet open. Sent a tweet to Russ, hope he considers it.

Edited by El Bandito, 01 May 2015 - 01:33 AM.

[CycKath]

Ha! Silly El Bandito, any Hero Mauler will be a energy boat to repent for its sin of being Resistance 2's only non laser vomit 'Mech...

[Tarogato]

Assault missile boats are terrible, you should be embarrassed for supporting the notion.

But 6 missile hardpoints loaded with SRM4s? That I would buy.

And good lord the people in this thread don't know how to read an OP. Get some glasses, mates, geez.

[Alistair Winter]

Tarogato, on 01 May 2015 - 01:48 AM, said:

Assault missile boats are terrible, you should be embarrassed for supporting the notion.

If the Stalker, AWS-8R and Warhawk are terrible LRM boats, then all LRM boats are terrible. Which is a valid view, but I don't think any weight class is particularly bad at boating LRMs, except Inner Sphere light mechs. They're all relatively adept at LRM boating, relative to how useful LRMs are.

I personally think the AWS-8R is one of the best LRM boats in the game. And a Mauler hero mech with 4 missile hardpoints would be much better, due to having launchers mounted much higher. And while the AWS-8R can mount 4xLRM15+Artemis, the Mauler would perhaps be able to do the same thing, with more tonnage for ammo and/or energy weapons.

[Tarogato]

Alistair Winter, on 01 May 2015 - 03:03 AM, said:

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I just don't want to see 90-ton assaults sitting in the back of a team all match, being the last mech standing and when I get to spectate them, they have 100% armour remaining and end with sub-300 damage on the scoreboard.

It's a complete waste of tonnage. Even a Stalker and Warhawk are wasted tonnage if they're not doing their part to soak up some damage for their team with all the tonnage they brought to the fight. The Awesome is just bad at everything because it's a barn. It either hides in the back and lets its armour go to waste, or it gets on the front line where it can't tank damage worth a damn because it has terrible hitboxes. It does well in matches where the enemy team's pilots are sitting the wrong direction in the cockpits of their mechs staring at the backs of their seats.

I can deal with a Mauler Hero variant that's missle-centric, but if it has LRM-specific quirks, ... tables gonna flip. =P

Edited by Tarogato, 01 May 2015 - 03:14 AM.

[Ralgas]

?????????
Mal-1R is already the mech you are looking for assuming pgi doesn't change the rules from previous packs again (1st variant described is the "resistance/invasion" variant with cbill boost) It's even going to have custom geometry and pattern, the only difference is you'll get a slightly different paint job, wait months, and get even less value for the mc you'll have to spend. Besides paying real money instead of cbills on the other variants to master it wheres the point in waiting? Thats why people don't get it.......

if geometry looks good i may ala carte that sucker, so i can run ac5's with higher mounts than crabby

Edited by Ralgas, 01 May 2015 - 03:33 AM.

[Raggedyman]

El Bandito, on 30 April 2015 - 05:51 PM, said:

...the future Mauler Hero (Hero, not the Prime variant) will be a missile boat. I've been asking for a Hero Assault Missile Boat, aka "C-Bill printer" for over a year, but so far, none of the IS Assault Hero mechs can boat LRMs with satisfactory amount

What, you mean like how the Catapult hero should have been!!!

[El Bandito]

Tarogato, on 01 May 2015 - 03:12 AM, said:

I just don't want to see 90-ton assaults sitting in the back of a team all match, being the last mech standing and when I get to spectate them, they have 100% armour remaining and end with sub-300 damage on the scoreboard.

It's a complete waste of tonnage. Even a Stalker and Warhawk are wasted tonnage if they're not doing their part to soak up some damage for their team with all the tonnage they brought to the fight. The Awesome is just bad at everything because it's a barn. It either hides in the back and lets its armour go to waste, or it gets on the front line where it can't tank damage worth a damn because it has terrible hitboxes. It does well in matches where the enemy team's pilots are sitting the wrong direction in the cockpits of their mechs staring at the backs of their seats.

I can deal with a Mauler Hero variant that's missle-centric, but if it has LRM-specific quirks, ... tables gonna flip. =P

1. All of my LRM Assaults such as AWS-8R, Stalkers, HGN-733, and AS7-S have average around 400-500 damage per match in stats and have positive WLR and KDR. They do their job better than half the Assaults I see in pugs. The pilot makes the difference.

2. LRMs are great for C-Bill farming and a Hero Mauler with LRM or missile quirks in general will make C-Bill grinding much more bearable. Hence the nick "C-Bill printer".

3. We do not have a decent missile boat Assault hero, so variety is another reason for making Mauler Hero a missile centric mech.

Raggedyman, on 01 May 2015 - 03:28 AM, said:

What, you mean like how the Catapult hero should have been!!!

When the Jester came out, I was very disappointed that it wasn't an LRM boat. I was hoping for the Butterbee.

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Catapult CPLT-C1 Jenny "Butterbee"

The personal ride of MechWarrior Jenny Templeton, this variant of the Catapult replaces the standard arm-mounted LRM-15s with a quartet of SRM-6 missile launchers, two in each arm.[19] BV (2.0) = 1,242[20]

Edited by El Bandito, 01 May 2015 - 03:55 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

I'm on teh fence. This is first release art and that is usually not how the Mech finally comes to our Mech bays. I like a Black Knight, but I am not moved by the art, The Mauler is a good looking Mech and I will have a Wolfhound in my Bays. Never been a fan of the Crab. It is a sweet looking Mini when painted well, but I've never been impressed with the build.

[Vandul]

El Bandito, on 30 April 2015 - 11:03 PM, said:

HERO. MECH. The Hero part is important. 1S is not a Hero mech and does not have +30% C-Bill bonus.

The BLR-1S is MY Hero.

[Gagis]

Please no LRM Assaults. I need the assaults on the front line tanking, not hiding behind rocks firing sticks at other rocks.

If you want a LRM boat, ask for a mobile medium with good LRM quirks. Loup-de-querre would be the perfect LRM Hero if it had the quirks for it. A medium mech does not waste tonnage or armour too much, and is mobile enough to seek proper firing psotions where it can actually hit some targets every now and then.