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[Domoneky]

In a sense I agree with NIgtmare1. Gameplay fixes, bugs, coding, stuff like that should have priority. Once they fix all the broken bones and internal bleeding in the game to get this game ready for steam release (Which is awful in my opinion) then we can add more vanity tiles and such. I'm all for it. I know my girlfriend who loves playing MWO would like to have some stuff like that. Hell she wants a succubus paint scheme.

[Suzumiya Haruhi no Kerensky]

Nightshade24, on 07 May 2015 - 12:39 AM, said:

Edit: Also the context of Big Brother doesn't mean male or female to begin with. Only if you anilise the worse separately. a "big Brother" is typically a monitoring system. "big brother is watching you" symbolizes the goverment usually. Which the people looking with the cameras could be (or in the time period of this being used, most likely due to gender typical jobs of that era) female.

the title has nothing to do with that though????

[Suzumiya Haruhi no Kerensky]

i used to use the big brother/sister title until they mysteriously decided to remove the sister part

Edited by MechaNagato, 07 May 2015 - 10:09 AM.

[Nightmare1]

Domoneky, on 07 May 2015 - 08:01 AM, said:

In a sense I agree with NIgtmare1. Gameplay fixes, bugs, coding, stuff like that should have priority. Once they fix all the broken bones and internal bleeding in the game to get this game ready for steam release (Which is awful in my opinion) then we can add more vanity tiles and such. I'm all for it. I know my girlfriend who loves playing MWO would like to have some stuff like that. Hell she wants a succubus paint scheme.

Right, I'm not saying it can't happen, just that it should be incredibly low on the priority list compared to everything else. Let that be the end of the end-game content and game fixes. Aside from the half dozen people on this thread, I don't see much demand for PGI to drop what it's doing and start creating gender vanity titles and such. Why should it when there are so many things to spend those resources and time on anyways?

[Burktross]

Someone twitter spam Russ about how long it would take. That should settle this argument.

[Suzumiya Haruhi no Kerensky]

Nightmare1, on 07 May 2015 - 10:58 AM, said:

Right, I'm not saying it can't happen, just that it should be incredibly low on the priority list compared to everything else. Let that be the end of the end-game content and game fixes. Aside from the half dozen people on this thread, I don't see much demand for PGI to drop what it's doing and start creating gender vanity titles and such. Why should it when there are so many things to spend those resources and time on anyways?

What insane world do you come from where it takes herculean effort to change one line of text.

[Nightmare1]

MechaNagato, on 07 May 2015 - 12:24 PM, said:

What insane world do you come from where it takes herculean effort to change one line of text.

What I'm referring to are the efforts and resources that must be dedicated to code the system allowing people to toggle between the various titles. If you want 12 new titles generated, six for each gender, and then an option system within an option system enabling people to decide between them by inputting their gender, then it takes more time than to simply rename a title or two. It may only be a couple of days, but it's still time spent on something that is basically meaningless while other, more meaningful things languish. As easily distracted as PGI can be at times, the last thing we need is a new element offering a new distraction. Let it wait until major problems are solved; you can't effectively polish something if it's still being constructed.

[Bront]

Nightmare1, on 06 May 2015 - 09:30 AM, said:

Seriously? With everything that needs fixing in the game, and all the new content that needs to be added, you're asking PGI to focus on gender inclusion? You are either an epic troll or the world's most laughably unfocused MWO pilot.

Frankly, I don't think that this is necessary. It's nothing more than a vanity issue for a few people. Let PGI focus on what's important, like fixing hit reg, clipping, JJs, weapon balance, geometries, CW, and the UI; as well as adding new weapons, maps, and Mechs.

It's likely very little extra code to offer the inclusion. It also isn't taking away from the teams working on CW, Weapon balance, JJs, Clipping, or Hit Reg (might hit the UI time just a bit)

[Nightmare1]

Bront, on 07 May 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:

It's likely very little extra code to offer the inclusion. It also isn't taking away from the teams working on CW, Weapon balance, JJs, Clipping, or Hit Reg (might hit the UI time just a bit)

I dunno...past observations with PGI have shown this sort of thing to be a rabbit that gets chased by the devs. It's flashy, but lacks substance.

I think this thread has run it's course; I'm out.

MechaNagato, on 07 May 2015 - 12:34 PM, said:

[redacted]

Speaking figuratively, no need to get yourself worked up.

Edited by Marvyn Dodgers, 07 May 2015 - 04:56 PM.
Insult in quote

[Nightshade24]

MechaNagato, on 07 May 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:

the title has nothing to do with that though????

care to explain or use more words that makes actual sense to the context or do you want me to play 20 questions until the topic switches from how the atlas is female?

[Nightshade24]

Twilight Fenrir, on 07 May 2015 - 05:31 AM, said:

I always thought the Big Daddy title was a sly reference to Bioshock. Which, in the game in that series that shall not be mentioned by name, there are Big Sisters So, the context does have some merit if that is the origin.

That's.... Kind of sexist, actually o.o Big Momma is a common enough phrase. Perhaps not as much today as in the past, but I remember hearing, 'That' s one big momma' in movies...



Now, THAT would be a great achievement for spotting assists.... Big Brother is watching you...

But, it's more of a Big Brother is looking out for you, and helping you out. Which Big Sisters are just as well set to do.

If only semantics and contexts in this matter is not all over the place.

Also mentioning it now, Big brother/ Big brother is watching you sounds a lot better for spotting assists... maybe TAG assists specificly/ NARC assists? OH! maybe a mix quota.

ie (lets pretend the total is 100 for simplicity sake)

25 Spotting assists required
25 TAG assists required
25 ECM counter assists required
25 TAG/ NARC / ECM with damage assists.

[bad arcade kitty]

MechaNagato, on 07 May 2015 - 10:08 AM, said:

i used to use the big brother/sister title until they mysteriously decided to remove the sister part

was bridesmaid ever bridesmaid/groomsman too?

[Darwins Dog]

Nightmare1, on 07 May 2015 - 12:33 PM, said:

What I'm referring to are the efforts and resources that must be dedicated to code the system allowing people to toggle between the various titles. If you want 12 new titles generated, six for each gender, and then an option system within an option system enabling people to decide between them by inputting their gender, then it takes more time than to simply rename a title or two. It may only be a couple of days, but it's still time spent on something that is basically meaningless while other, more meaningful things languish. As easily distracted as PGI can be at times, the last thing we need is a new element offering a new distraction. Let it wait until major problems are solved; you can't effectively polish something if it's still being constructed.

It doesn't need to be nearly that complicated. All they need is a second reward for the achievement with the appropriate title. Then people can chose and switch as desired.

[Surn]

Why not add cultural, sexual preference, racial and theological references? Is that sufficiently inclusive...

Edited by MechregSurn, 11 May 2015 - 06:05 AM.

[Kalimaster]

I say, lets be fair to both genders. Go for it.

[Satan n stuff]

I'm not against the idea, but it seems rather pointless to me.