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[Saber Avalon]

May road map was posted here and tucked away at the bottom, Russ has the following for May 19:

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- BattleMaster BLR-2C and Cataphract CTF-0X variants - Gift Store first.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Cataphract

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• CTF-0X The Confederation experimented with a Cataphract variant carrying the Electronic Warfare Equipment that was mounted on the Raven which was being designed around the same time. It was equipped with a single PPC and Autocannon/5, as well as two arm mounted Medium Lasers, the EW equipment, and a Remote Sensor Dispenser on the rear center torso. A single shipment of CTF-0X prototypes was sent to Sian but line production did not commence afterwards because a request for more EW components was denied.^[9]

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Electronic Warfare Equipment (EW Equipment) was a suite of basic electronic devices developed in 3025 by the Capellan Confederation and included on the first model of their Raven BattleMech along with the rare -0X variant of the Cataphract. The device mimicked the combined capabilities of the then-lostech Beagle Active Probe and Guardian ECM Suite, but without the range of those Star League era devices. It was a landmark development for the Confederation in its time, but became obsolete with the redevelopment of the Star League systems it copied.

IS finally getting a heavy with ECM and it's on a Cataphract. Rejoice, IS surats.


Edit: I apparnetly didn't search back far enough, someone did post about this. Thought it went unnoticed for a moment *whew*

Edited by Saber Avalon, 06 May 2015 - 09:05 AM.

[Paigan]

I would have preferred to see it on an Orion (always seems like an underrated electronics-stuff mech to me), but whatever.
I'm happy for you Freebirthers.
So, does this mean we get a ECM-capable DWF / EXE variant, yes?

[zagibu]

Paigan, on 06 May 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

So, does this mean we get a ECM-capable DWF / EXE variant, yes?

You mean Stormcrow or Timberwolf, because you wouldn't use the DWF anyway.

[Scout Derek]

Paigan, on 06 May 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

I would have preferred to see it on an Orion (always seems like an underrated electronics-stuff mech to me), but whatever.

I would've prefered the new Black Knight instead to have ECM.

Paigan, on 06 May 2015 - 09:24 AM, said:

So, does this mean we get a ECM-capable DWF / EXE variant, yes?

No, you'd want it for the Vulture or your timber wolf instead

[El Bandito]

Saber Avalon, on 06 May 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

IS finally getting a heavy with ECM and it's on a Cataphract. Rejoice, IS surats.

Why should we rejoice about ECM being placed on the crappiest 70 tonner in MWO?

[Corbenik]

El Bandito, on 06 May 2015 - 05:22 PM, said:

Why should we rejoice about ECM being placed on the crappiest 70 tonner in MWO?

wellps people asked for heavy ECM and they are receiving it :X as they say Beggars can't be choosers right? it wont stop the "give us this because this side has this, but it will quell the noise for a "short" time :X

[Escef]

El Bandito, on 06 May 2015 - 05:22 PM, said:

Why should we rejoice about ECM being placed on the crappiest 70 tonner in MWO?

You rank it lower than the Summoner? Wow. Remember the days back when the Cataphract was King of the Heavies?

Anyway, I find the 2C Battlemaster intriguing. Will it, like the Atlas D-DC, be ECM capable? Being a fan of Battlemasters, I can say for certain that I will grab a 2C, but if it isn't ECM capable it can wait for c-bills.

[Ace Selin]

Apart from the Ilya (rarely seen, but seen in the game), i havent seen a Cataphract in this game for months.
No one plays Cataphracts these days.

So PGI decided to add ECM to the Phract? What a useless mech to add ECM to.

[Deathlike]

Scout Derek, on 06 May 2015 - 09:34 AM, said:

I would've prefered the new Black Knight instead to have ECM.

The dream died on April 30, 2015.

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No, you'd want it for the Vulture or your timber wolf instead

Considering that both the Timberwolf and Direwolf have ECM variants, it's just a matter of time where planned obsolescence rules all.

Anyways, the Cataphract in question would still end up being inferior to the Hellbringer.

Edited by Deathlike, 06 May 2015 - 05:29 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Deathlike, on 06 May 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

The dream died on April 30, 2015.




Considering that both the Timberwolf and Direwolf have ECM variants, it's just a matter of time where planned obsolescence rules all.

Anyways, the Cataphract in question would still end up being inferior to the Hellbringer.

Mr Gargles has that Hero variant, CT mounted Jesus Box (with a half ton TAG, swap for ERSL if PGI so chooses) with 2 torso mounted missile slots.


It gives Mr Gargles a purpose...if they don't want to do anything else.

[El Bandito]

Escef, on 06 May 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

You rank it lower than the Summoner? Wow. Remember the days back when the Cataphract was King of the Heavies?

Yes I rank it lower than Summoner. At least that mech has better hitboxes along with Clan laser vomit.

3D alone was the King of Heavies. Cataphracts back then had to compete with only Catapults and Dragons anyway. Now PPCs suck, Gauss has charge, and CTF-0X doesn't have JJs for peek-a-boo shooting.

I do miss the early Beta days when CTF as a chassis wasn't as obsolete, and I could kick ass with my quad LL CTF-1X...

Edited by El Bandito, 06 May 2015 - 05:40 PM.

[Serpieri]

El Bandito, on 06 May 2015 - 05:22 PM, said:

Why should we rejoice about ECM being placed on the crappiest 70 tonner in MWO?

Blame PGi for letting it become crappy.

[Escef]

El Bandito, on 06 May 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

Yes I rank it lower than Summoner. At least that mech has better hitboxes along with Clan laser vomit.

3D alone was the King of Heavies. Cataphracts back then had to compete with only Catapults and Dragons anyway. Now PPCs suck, Gauss has charge, and CTF-0X doesn't have JJs for peek-a-boo shooting.

I do miss the early Beta days when CTF as a chassis wasn't as obsolete, and I could kick ass with my quad LL CTF-1X...

Eh, you don't see 'Phracts around much anymore because all the old 'Phract pilots migrated to Timbies. On those occasions when I still see a triple cannon Ilya I remember to treat it with respect, they're still plenty dangerous.

As for what they were competing with, 'Phracts were overall considered better than Caapults, Dragons, Quickdraws, Orions, and even better than some Jagermech builds. The 3D was the best of the lot, followed by the Ilya and 1X. Hell, I recently re-kitted my 3D with 4xML and 2xLB10, and it was reasonably solid with a standard engine. A 1X with 2xPPC/AC20 may not be imaginative, but it can still rock the house.

Seriously, if you still have 'Phracts, take them for a spin, it might surprise you just how playable they still are. And that's coming from someone that's not a big fan of them.

[Deathlike]

Mcgral18, on 06 May 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

Mr Gargles has that Hero variant, CT mounted Jesus Box (with a half ton TAG, swap for ERSL if PGI so chooses) with 2 torso mounted missile slots.


It gives Mr Gargles a purpose...if they don't want to do anything else.

I had to look this up just to be sure.

While I doubt the an ECM Gargles is enough to save it, I'm certainly not buying that at full cost. It'll be pretty expensive (Clan 400XL engine indirectly adds to the cost) so bleh.

The Timberwolf edition would just flood/break the game.

[Whatzituyah]

Deathlike, on 06 May 2015 - 06:05 PM, said:

I had to look this up just to be sure.

While I doubt the an ECM Gargles is enough to save it, I'm certainly not buying that at full cost. It'll be pretty expensive (Clan 400XL engine indirectly adds to the cost) so bleh.

The Timberwolf edition would just flood/break the game.

Since when was the game fixed?

[Ralgas]

Escef, on 06 May 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

You rank it lower than the Summoner? Wow. Remember the days back when the Cataphract was King of the Heavies?

Anyway, I find the 2C Battlemaster intriguing. Will it, like the Atlas D-DC, be ECM capable? Being a fan of Battlemasters, I can say for certain that I will grab a 2C, but if it isn't ECM capable it can wait for c-bills.

where did anyone get the idea the battlemaster was getting ecm?

has a command console, bap 7e, 1m + it's hardpoint inflation. From sarna-

• BLR-2C Dating back from 2925, this designated command vehicle sported a second cockpit (presumably a Command Console) and a Beagle Active Probe wired into the Nirasaki Inciteful Vision targeting system. Instead of the machine guns it carried a SureFire Defender Anti-Missile System in the left arm, retaining the rearward firing lasers. Like with the BLR-1C, House Kurita received at least one BLR-2C from ComStar in full working condition and used it to good effect in the War of 3039. BV (1.0) = ?, BV (2.0) = 1,563^[29]

[Zodal]

This post makes me miss the dual gauss er ppc ilya.... when it was viable.

[Eider]

Duck and cover for the horde of clanner tears over this minor thing.

Edited by Eider, 06 May 2015 - 10:05 PM.

[Star Colonel Silver Surat]

If you guys are talking about the Dire Wolf C having ECM, it is 8-10 years away in the timeline. The Timber Wolf with ECM would have to be a hero mech and is also 12 years out in the timeline. Doubt either will be happening anytime soon.

[Serpieri]

Eider, on 06 May 2015 - 10:04 PM, said:

Duck and cover for the horde of clanner tears over this minor thing.

And when clanners get an ECM assault we will do the same.

People don't really want balance - they just want to stick it to the other guy.