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[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

Triordinant, on 11 May 2015 - 07:09 PM, said:

You charged PGI with banning someone for no good reason so the burden of proof lies with YOU.

I'm sure there's an article on wikipedia you could probably comprehend on the burden of proof, if you would like to come to understand how you are misinterpreting it.

Edited by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, 11 May 2015 - 07:11 PM.

[Sereglach]

You know, I had no idea what the huge "high profile" banning was all about, but it's not hard to see what unit the person came from, now. Apparently they don't like the big black spot it's probably put on that unit's record, for at least a while.

It happens. It fades. People move on. Sadly, so do their screen names, which constantly change through various games and forums. One reason why naming and shaming doesn't really do much is because one minute they're "Throgdor the INVINCIBLE" and the next they're "Jackhammers McHulkfists".

That being said, PGI will not and should not expose the "explicit" ways they've uncovered cheaters for the reasons already cited. If you don't like it, read the EULA. If you don't like what you read, find another game to play with an EULA you do like . . . I'll save you some time, don't bother, because it's a standard item in any EULA that any use of illicit programs and ****(EDIT: a..i...d..s? Really filter?)/tools results in permanent banning, and all you need to know is that they caught you doing it, no questions asked.

Edited by Sereglach, 11 May 2015 - 07:12 PM.

[ShinVector]

ilKhan Judge Dreddrensky, on 11 May 2015 - 06:35 PM, said:

Can you please outline (and be explicit) how you were able to detect the third party tools in question?

Only people who cheat would need/want to worry about such things.
People who don't cheat should not give a damn continue to Wreck people in Legit fashion.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Sereglach, on 11 May 2015 - 07:11 PM, said:

You know, I had no idea what the huge "high profile" banning was all about, but it's not hard to see what unit the person came from, now.

is that the one showing up here?

[thinkn bout thos Beans mans game]

ShinVector, on 11 May 2015 - 07:11 PM, said:

Only people who cheat would need/want to worry about such things.
People who don't cheat should not give a damn continue to Wreck people in Legit fashion.

If PGI has nothing to hide, then they would not fear inquiry

[ICEFANG13]

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, on 11 May 2015 - 07:10 PM, said:

I'm sure there's an article on wikipedia you could probably comprehend on the burden of proof, if you would like to come to understand how you are misinterpreting it.

Unable to provide evidence to support claim, while also attempting to continue the conversation with short bursts of aggression in an attempt to incite anger and rebellion.

Troll.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

ilKhan Judge Dreddrensky, on 11 May 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

If PGI has nothing to hide, then they would not fear inquiry

isnt this the NSA's motto?

ICEFANG13, on 11 May 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

Unable to provide evidence to support claim, while also attempting to continue the conversation with short bursts of aggression in an attempt to incite anger and rebellion.

Troll.

and reported as such

[Kwea]

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, on 11 May 2015 - 06:55 PM, said:

You aren't significant enough to be targeted.

And you aren't significant enough to warrant a reply.

[Triordinant]

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, on 11 May 2015 - 07:10 PM, said:

I'm sure there's an article on wikipedia you could probably comprehend on the burden of proof, if you would like to come to understand how you are misinterpreting it.

You should read it. You're the one suffering from foot in mouth disease.

[IraqiWalker]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 11 May 2015 - 07:05 PM, said:

ah, so the person alleging wrongdoing DOESNT need to provide proof. You just killed your own argument.

Friendly fire?

More like engine overheat, and explosion.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Kwea, on 11 May 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

And you aren't significant enough to warrant a reply.

and yet you wrote one XD

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

If questioning the intention behind a ban for 'cheating' immediately after the said banned player established their desire for a refund is trolling, then I am a troll.

[thinkn bout thos Beans mans game]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 11 May 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

isnt this the NSA's motto?

That is the point, and my argument is that PGI is operating without oversight or accountability if they cannot provide concrete proof on why they are literally taking money from someone.

[IraqiWalker]

ICEFANG13, on 11 May 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

Unable to provide evidence to support claim, while also attempting to continue the conversation with short bursts of aggression in an attempt to incite anger and rebellion.

Troll.

Of the lowest quality.

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

I am eagerly awaiting PGI's response to this matter.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

ilKhan Judge Dreddrensky, on 11 May 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

That is the point, and my argument is that PGI is operating without oversight or accountability if they cannot provide concrete proof on why they are literally taking money from someone.

Ive told you where to get your proof, but you guys are just trolling since your group got caught and punished.

[S204STi]

ilKhan Judge Dreddrensky, on 11 May 2015 - 07:13 PM, said:

If PGI has nothing to hide, then they would not fear inquiry

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, on 11 May 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

I am eagerly awaiting PGI's response to this matter.

lol, the tinfoil hats are real.

Edited by S204STi, 11 May 2015 - 07:18 PM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

S204STi, on 11 May 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:

lol, the tinfoil hats are real.

and theyre all stamped NKVA

[Sereglach]

ilKhan Judge Dreddrensky, on 11 May 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

That is the point, and my argument is that PGI is operating without oversight or accountability if they cannot provide concrete proof on why they are literally taking money from someone.

Concrete proof on why people are taking money from people is done all the time. It's called receipts, or do you always tell people you don't want those because you think they're strips of toilet paper they're trying to hand you? You get them electronic, too, you know.

[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]

Your opinions are all unimportant to me. The only thing I am interested in is PGI's response. If they wish to operate like this, they are losing money in the long term. The people posting here blindly in support of summary unexplained bans are the tiny minority of players.