- Cheating is uncommon
- Cheating is detectable
- Don't cheat
- If you do cheat, you'll be banned
- If you don't cheat, you're a-okay
- If you're banned for cheating, anyone who looks at your profile will know it
- You'll lose access to everything in your MWO account(s) and you won't be refunded for delivered content
Another Word On Cheat Tools
#1
Posted 11 May 2015 - 05:50 PM
#2
Posted 11 May 2015 - 05:58 PM
#3
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:03 PM
Edit: Also curious who was banned and what for I'll just go surf the webs bound to find out eventually.
Edit: figured it out. Will edit again if I'm allowed to say who. I'm not sure how I feel about name and shame. I know PGI has said not to do it for the most part.
Edited by Tool Box, 11 May 2015 - 06:42 PM.
#4
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:04 PM
#5
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:05 PM
#6
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:06 PM
Tool Box, on 11 May 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:
Probably the title name in the forum dude. Eg. Your Shredder replaced with a pink/purple "Banned - Cheater"
Currently we only see 'Banned' but without any details.
At believe this is a good step by PGI.
Hopefully there are no false positives.
Quake in your BOOTS cheaters !
#7
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:08 PM
#8
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:09 PM
InnerSphereNews, on 11 May 2015 - 05:50 PM, said:
Even though this is little more than a verbal assurance, players should be happy to know that our renewed investigations up to this point have shown that these tools are not so widely used as some players may have initially imagined or feared. Further, their level of use from here on out will only shrink.
They are rare, detectable, and in most cases will not guarantee victory when used.
How do you know that a cheat is detectable?
Not actually expecting an answer of course, just saying that some cheats are/could be undetected at this point and you don't know.
Other than that...this is good news. It cleared up the conjecture, proving a cheater has been caught and banned.
IMHO one of the best things you can do it promote the fact you caught a cheater every time you catch one. It impresses the vast majority of honest players and dispirits the hackers.
Edited by TLBFestus, 11 May 2015 - 06:10 PM.
#9
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:10 PM
I'm glad that there's not going to be a public name and shame policy. It's just not needed, and breeds bad blood. However, being able to see if someone was, in fact, a cheater based upon their account group is also good to see, as it just removes questions for people closely related to a situation.
#10
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:20 PM
Cheaters deserve to have their usernames forever etched onto the wall of shame.
#11
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:22 PM
TLBFestus, on 11 May 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:
I'm not a genius or anything on the subject, but I'm aware of some things out there. I'm sure they've got much better than this, but maybe it'll help answer your question.
1. They can probe the install on the system while its connected to the servers to see if there've been any illegal alterations (IE: Only make terrain appear with solid outlines on my screen and otherwise 90% transulcent).
2. They can look at data traffic to see if data is passing through that doesn't match up with what Server Authoritative HSR (or other metrics) says is possible.
3. They can see if you're moving/tracking on targets in ways that's not physically possible within the games own control scheme.
4. They'll piggyback and spectate/watch the suspected person to get first hand evidence through live data streams/feeds (not just the spectator camera, like we do when dead) to find abnormal information.
All the things lead to rock solid confirmations, as it's not just something that's explained away as "Oh, that was a lucky headshot." It becomes, "Well, regardless of where he was aiming, his system sent data to our servers saying he fired his weapons at this direction and angle to ensure a headshot on that guy. That overrode where he was aiming, which would have just hit the wall."
Edited by Sereglach, 11 May 2015 - 06:28 PM.
#12
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:24 PM
Cheaters should be known. They should be shunned. And the results of being caught should be obvious to anyone that so much as sees a forum post. And for good measure, if you can ID what they used to cheat, add that to the profile too- so people know that "undetectable" isn't and don't even start.
Make a public list. Replace their forum badge to brand the account as belonging to a useless cancer cut from the game's population. That's what would restore my confidence in PGI's ability to enforce the rules, considering it took an outside controversy to even result in the banstick being applied in this fashion even once.
They have the right idea in Counterstrike. When a playerbase sees cheaters getting the axe, it breeds confidence that indeed, the right things are being done.
#13
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:30 PM
#14
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:30 PM
#15
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:35 PM
#16
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:37 PM
ilKhan Judge Dreddrensky, on 11 May 2015 - 06:35 PM, said:
They should never do that, since it helps the cheaters. If they tell us how they found it, then the cheaters would know too and aid in hiding the cheats.
Edited by ICEFANG13, 11 May 2015 - 06:38 PM.
#17
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:39 PM
That is, are you sure PGI as a company is not taking vengeful action against the said individual and declaring them a cheater while providing no evidence?
#19
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:40 PM
ICEFANG13, on 11 May 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:
They should never do that, since it helps the cheaters. If they tell us how they found it, then the cheaters would know too and aid in hiding the cheats.
This is a fallacy. There is no cheat detection tool in this game.
#20
Posted 11 May 2015 - 06:40 PM
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